after considering my needs, I think I am also looking for good audio. the digicams that I have are more or less useless in the audio section when used in loud environments like concerts. what digicams would you recommend that can record good audio at a concert?
Be aware that the Lumix will only film maximum 8 minute clips. I'd be all over this (I think) if not for that limitation.
To each his own, but I can't imagine a home-made movie clip I'd want to watch for more than 8 minutes, personally. There comes a time in every "movie" where one scene must end and another scene must start, rarely should you come close to 8 minutes. Watch anything on TV, and count down the time before a particular shot ends and another one begins. I doubt very much you'll see one much over 1 minute.
To each his own, but I can't imagine a home-made movie clip I'd want to watch for more than 8 minutes, personally. There comes a time in every "movie" where one scene must end and another scene must start, rarely should you come close to 8 minutes. Watch anything on TV, and count down the time before a particular shot ends and another one begins. I doubt very much you'll see one much over 1 minute.
i agree. im not concerned with that length. im a lot more concerned about audio quality. im having an extremely hard time finding any reliable resource that reviews audio quality on digicams reliably.
i agree. im not concerned with that length. im a lot more concerned about audio quality. im having an extremely hard time finding any reliable resource that reviews audio quality on digicams reliably.
I know you said the TZ5 was too big... but but the doesn't the TZ7 have dolby stereo? And it is a little slimmer than the TZ5...
Most camcorders, regardless of cost, would be similarly incapable of handling the sound pressure levels. To do this properly will take a specialized microphone at very least. Any wind and you will also have to have a wind sock or wind muff, or both, in order to prevent wind noise.
Competent audio will not be easy to attain. It may get very expensive too.
Them's the breaks.
Here are some links to the "proper" way to record audio:
I know you said the TZ5 was too big... but but the doesn't the TZ7 have dolby stereo? And it is a little slimmer than the TZ5...
you're correct! the specs for ZS3 / TZ7 does say Stereo microphone. and it is slightly slimmer than the TZ5. the TZ5 specs does not say stereo, so i assume its mono?
you're correct! the specs for ZS3 / TZ7 does say Stereo microphone. and it is slightly slimmer than the TZ5. the TZ5 specs does not say stereo, so i assume its mono?
I can't believe how much I screwed up my post - anyone would think I can't speak English!!
My girlfriend has the TZ5 - yep, it does record in mono.
To each his own, but I can't imagine a home-made movie clip I'd want to watch for more than 8 minutes, personally. There comes a time in every "movie" where one scene must end and another scene must start, rarely should you come close to 8 minutes. Watch anything on TV, and count down the time before a particular shot ends and another one begins. I doubt very much you'll see one much over 1 minute.
Indeed, to each his own. I do understand the way TV and movies are made. I'm not making a TV show or professional produced movie, I'm making a home video. When young children are involved (in my experience) you can't take the camera off of them for a second. You'll get hours and hours of boring, useless stuff with 5 minutes of randomly scattered "keeper time" throughout. I likely wouldn't want to watch 8+ minutes straight for sure (unless it was a school play, long band/concert piece or similar to send to grandma) but I want to make those decisions in post-production. I wouldn't want to have to remember to press stop and then record again every 8 minutes while I'm filming my kids.
To each his own, but I can't imagine a home-made movie clip I'd want to watch for more than 8 minutes, personally. There comes a time in every "movie" where one scene must end and another scene must start, rarely should you come close to 8 minutes. Watch anything on TV, and count down the time before a particular shot ends and another one begins. I doubt very much you'll see one much over 1 minute.
+1 I think 8 minutes is PLENTY long! If you edit clips in any sort of NLE, you'll be glad your clips are less than 8 minutes.
The camera I'm looking at right now is the Panasonic DMC-TS1. It got a good review on dpreview, and appears to have stereo audio. Plus, it's shock and water resistant. Seems pretty neat, but I can't find one locally to look at. Here's a link:
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i agree. im not concerned with that length. im a lot more concerned about audio quality. im having an extremely hard time finding any reliable resource that reviews audio quality on digicams reliably.
I know you said the TZ5 was too big... but but the doesn't the TZ7 have dolby stereo? And it is a little slimmer than the TZ5...
Competent audio will not be easy to attain. It may get very expensive too.
Them's the breaks.
Here are some links to the "proper" way to record audio:
http://www.ehow.com/how_4505538_record-rock-concert.html
http://www.brighthub.com/multimedia/video/articles/5375.aspx
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you're correct! the specs for ZS3 / TZ7 does say Stereo microphone. and it is slightly slimmer than the TZ5. the TZ5 specs does not say stereo, so i assume its mono?
I can't believe how much I screwed up my post - anyone would think I can't speak English!!
My girlfriend has the TZ5 - yep, it does record in mono.
Indeed, to each his own. I do understand the way TV and movies are made. I'm not making a TV show or professional produced movie, I'm making a home video. When young children are involved (in my experience) you can't take the camera off of them for a second. You'll get hours and hours of boring, useless stuff with 5 minutes of randomly scattered "keeper time" throughout. I likely wouldn't want to watch 8+ minutes straight for sure (unless it was a school play, long band/concert piece or similar to send to grandma) but I want to make those decisions in post-production. I wouldn't want to have to remember to press stop and then record again every 8 minutes while I'm filming my kids.
+1 I think 8 minutes is PLENTY long! If you edit clips in any sort of NLE, you'll be glad your clips are less than 8 minutes.
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/Q209waterproofgroup/
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