ND Filters

helloyo53

Hi.

I have a question. Can ND filters be used on camera that do not allow different lenses. I have a Fujifilm S1000fd, and I would like to have one, and my camera doesn't allow different lenses for it. Does this mean ND Filters won't work on my camera?

Also, approximately how much do ND Filters cost?


Thanks.

ziggy53

helloyo53 wrote:

Hi.

I have a question. Can ND filters be used on camera that do not allow different lenses. I have a Fujifilm S1000fd, and I would like to have one, and my camera doesn't allow different lenses for it. Does this mean ND Filters won't work on my camera?

Also, approximately how much do ND Filters cost?


Thanks.

Filters in general use front lens threads to mount onto a lens/camera. As long as your camera's lens has front filter threads you should be able to mount the appropriate filter if the thread sizes match.

If the camera does not have front filter threads, there are some other solutions including DIY and third-party mounts specifically for holding filters in front of simple camera lenses that lack front filter threads.

Does your Fuji S1000fd have front filter threads?

Exposure may be tricky with simpler cameras and may present the greater of your challenges.

As far as cost, it can vary wildly, partly according to filter size, partly by the light transmission rating and partly by quality of construction and ultimate image quality.

helloyo53

Thanks for replying.

No, my camera does not have threads. I like the idea of DIY, that's what I was thinking of doing. And I am pretty good with improvising, so I could make it work.

I have to ask my parents to bring me to one of the camera shops here, and I will see how much they are. And actually, I hope I am thinking of the right thing. You can use ND filters for taking pictures of waterfalls to get the wispy water right? Or is this something else?

Joves

helloyo53 wrote:

Thanks for replying.

No, my camera does not have threads. I like the idea of DIY, that's what I was thinking of doing. And I am pretty good with improvising, so I could make it work.

I have to ask my parents to bring me to one of the camera shops here, and I will see how much they are. And actually, I hope I am thinking of the right thing. You can use ND filters for taking pictures of waterfalls to get the wispy water right? Or is this something else?

Well you could get an ND gel or gel set but, what are you wanting to do with it. If is is timed exposues for waterfalls and, such how much control do you have in the cameras manual mode? Getting silky waterfalls takes lower ISOs and slower shutter speeds. You could though tape the ND gel over the lens though. Depending on who has the gels they range from $40 to $60.

helloyo53

Joves wrote:

Well you could get an ND gel or gel set but, what are you wanting to do with it. If is is timed exposues for waterfalls and, such how much control do you have in the cameras manual mode? Getting silky waterfalls takes lower ISOs and slower shutter speeds. You could though tape the ND gel over the lens though. Depending on who has the gels they range from $40 to $60.

In manual mode, I can adjust the camera's shutter speed from 1/2000 to 8 seconds. I can adjust the aperture from f2.8 to f6.4, and for ISO I can go from 64 to 3200.

Yes, I would be using it mainly for moving water like waterfalls. ND gel? Would you recommend me buy it, or is it any good or what? What do you think I should get, the filter or the gel?

ziggy53

Here is a simple adapter that would "probably" work. (Don't know for sure) You would use it with Cokin "A" size filters and I would bet that for a deep ND filter you would need to fashion some sort of stray light control.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/387332-REG/Cokin_CBAD700_Shoe_Digital_Filter_Holder.html

Another way to get smooth water is to take a bunch of images and then stack them with the intent of smoothing any motion. The following site details how you would do this for a Pentax dSLR, but it should work with any camera, although the technique would be slightly different in that you would have to do the multiple exposures in software.

http://pentaxdslrs.blogspot.com/2007/12/using-multiple-exposures-on-k10d.html

Here are links to using software stacking to achieve multiple exposures:

http://blog.rrdphoto.com/2007/03/digital-multiple-exposures.html

http://www.naturephotographers.net/articles0903/tg0903-1.html

scole

Cokin makes an adapter that allows you to use their plate filters with cameras like point & shoots:

http://www.cokin.com/ico15-B.html

Joves

helloyo53 wrote:

In manual mode, I can adjust the camera's shutter speed from 1/2000 to 8 seconds. I can adjust the aperture from f2.8 to f6.4, and for ISO I can go from 64 to 3200.

Yes, I would be using it mainly for moving water like waterfalls. ND gel? Would you recommend me buy it, or is it any good or what? What do you think I should get, the filter or the gel?

Well you want low ISOs and, slow shutter speeds. And I didnt know that Cokin makes holders for P&S cameras. In that case I would go with that. The gels are made by Kodak and Leee are some of the better one but, the Cokin Kit would be simpler and, less exspneive. They have three grades of NDs for the A holder. 2x.4x and, 8x. Each being darker as the number goes up. But if you can go to ISO 64 then Id get the 4x and, play with the ISO and, shutter speeds till you get what you want. I always play with those shots as it is.
Another thing is wind will screw up your trees on longer exposures, turning them into blurs if is is gusty. Figured Id warn you about that one.

time2smile

I have a Fuji S602 and there is a adaptor ring you screw into the lens to add 58mm filters. Check to see if yor S1000 has the same, it also protects the lens when it is fully extended.

otherwise just hold a nd filter in front of the lens during the shot.