Help with Lightroom :(

WingsOfLovePhoto

Good morning. Loving and hating Lightroom today! Can anyone tell me how I can consistently get lightroom to display a photo that was edited in photoshop? Sometimes if I edit in photoshop the photo will appear next to the original and at other times not. Will just display 1 of 2. Sometimes it will display it in the original order and at others it will put it at the end of the gallery. At this moment I can't even find how to display the edit! Usually if I go to import photos from disk it will say they are already in the library and I will choose view in library and get them. Today I can find them at all! URGH!!! There is no rhyme or reason to why this happens. I haven't changed anything. Am using Lightroom 2 on a MAC platform. Any ideas?

arodney

IF you take a Raw and edit in Photoshop, LR has to render that data into a TIFF (or whatever you’ve set in your preferences), edit in PS then that new rendered image is placed in the library next to the original Raw (that’s why you see two images). You could setup a smart collection to find all images edited in a certain date range or by type to keep track. The reason you don’t see two images (original and PS edited) is probably due to how you handle the original, if its a Raw or not etc. Anytime you edit a Raw, its untouched, a new copy is build and added to the library. IF you edit that Photoshop edited image now, you pop a dialog asking if you want to edit that or a copy (of the copy). If you edit that 1st Photoshop file, it then ends up back in the catalog as the edit (not a new copy unless you asked for it).

WingsOfLovePhoto

arodney wrote:

IF you take a Raw and edit in Photoshop, LR has to render that data into a TIFF (or whatever you’ve set in your preferences), edit in PS then that new rendered image is placed in the library next to the original Raw (that’s why you see two images). You could setup a smart collection to find all images edited in a certain date range or by type to keep track. The reason you don’t see two images (original and PS edited) is probably due to how you handle the original, if its a Raw or not etc. Anytime you edit a Raw, its untouched, a new copy is build and added to the library. IF you edit that Photoshop edited image now, you pop a dialog asking if you want to edit that or a copy (of the copy). If you edit that 1st Photoshop file, it then ends up back in the catalog as the edit (not a new copy unless you asked for it).

Thanks....but I edited in photoshop an exported then reimported jpeg. I just can't see the edit I did...

jheuser

In library view, are you on recently imported, or the folder you imported too. If I import a bunch, to some editing in LR, then export to PS, Photomatix etc then save I sometimes lose the photos as well.

If i haven't changed from recently imported to the folder I actually imported too, I won't see my pics either.

pyry

WingsOfLovePhoto wrote:

Thanks....but I edited in photoshop an exported then reimported jpeg. I just can't see the edit I did...

The one of two thing is LR stacking the edited version in with the original. You can select expand stack to view both images.

If you can't see the edited image at all, even as a stack, try importing it into the catalog. LR might not find it if you saved under a different folder or somesuch.

adbsgicom

I've found if you save-as in CS, the result isn't where you expect it. So if LR is set up to use TIFF files, then it is looking to stack the TIFF with your DNG. If you save-as a JPG, I believe you are side-stepping LR and you need to re-import that image to the catalog. FWIW, is there a reason you are using the CS jpeg export instead of leaving it as TIFF (disk space constraints?).

mjs

Some clarification

adbsgicom wrote:

I've found if you save-as in CS, the result isn't where you expect it. So if LR is set up to use TIFF files, then it is looking to stack the TIFF with your DNG. If you save-as a JPG, I believe you are side-stepping LR and you need to re-import that image to the catalog. FWIW, is there a reason you are using the CS jpeg export instead of leaving it as TIFF (disk space constraints?).

Not sure I totally understand the issues but here is my work flow. I import my originals into LR. I then edit in LR and send to PS for minor touches. When in PS I save with changes and it then returns to LR next to the original.

I have my folders on my hard drive exactly the same as my folders in LR. If I originate an edit in PS I then save to my hard drive. If I want that edited image to appear in PS I go to the library tab in LR and click the synchronize option and the file is sent to LR. You have to do this process when you are in the folder you want to sync up.

cmason

If you save as psd in photoshop, the psd file, with edits, will show in LR. Of course, you will not see the edits as LR edits, it will just be the editted file. Saving as psd allows you to go back to the photoshop file for edits, and since you can create a jpg anytime with LR, there is no reason to save as jpg. This also means you dont have to reimport.

Thunder Rabbit

Howdy.

Hello, Sandy.

Once again, Master Mason has offered sage advice. You would do well to heed it. When Lr and Ps are used together as the Adobe engineers intended, it's easy and effective.

Below is a tutorial illustrating the basic Lr/Ps interaction. It's for CS3, but I'm pretty sure CS2 works the same.




For more about working with Lr and Ps, the text that goes with this visual can be found here.

One other thing. In Lr Library module, the default sort mode is by capture time. There is quite a list of other options. If you are missing an image, go to Menu>View>Sort. Make sure the sorting option is appropriate. Some of them will rearrange your images in ways that separate a Lr thumbnail from its Ps edit copy thumbnail.

Hope this helps.