B&W - C&C How 'bout it BD

torags

This is not a PJ shot moderator. It is an attempt to get some judgments on the quality of the B&W treatment of the images. Where else do people use B&W as much as here. The B&W discipline does not translate well in the sports forums.

Background: the subjects are engaged in "dirt track TT", motorcycle racing. The sport is enthusiast driven; there is no real (prize) money there and it mostly is a family affair. This track located in Lodi CA runs Friday night races, because the participants work in other fields. The track has lights, some are white, some green and some pink (with hot spots). The coverage is inadequate.

After sunset, you have to shoot with iso 6400. The track has less than three sweet spots and a couple of them have the colored lights. So shooting is very constrained. I haven't had acceptable images after 1600 on my D700 and last night was no different.

These images are at 6400 and noisy as hell. I tried converting them to see if I could save a few. Cropped with the noise sharpened (some contrast) I wondered how they compare to film grain. What do you think.

Bottom line , how does B&W noise compare to B&W film grain



No noise; just converted

bdcolen

torags wrote:

This is not a PJ shot moderator. It is an attempt to get some judgments on the quality of the B&W treatment of the images. Where else do people use B&W as much as here. The B&W discipline does not translate well in the sports forums.

Background: the subjects are engaged in "dirt track TT", motorcycle racing. The sport is enthusiast driven; there is no real (prize) money there and it mostly is a family affair. This track located in Lodi CA runs Friday night races, because the participants work in other fields. The track has lights, some are white, some green and some pink (with hot spots). The coverage is inadequate.

After sunset, you have to shoot with iso 6400. The track has less than three sweet spots and a couple of them have the colored lights. So shooting is very constrained. I haven't had acceptable images after 1600 on my D700 and last night was no different.

These images are at 6400 and noisy as hell. I tried converting them to see if I could save a few. Cropped with the noise sharpened (some contrast) I wondered how they compare to film grain. What do you think.

Bottom line , how does B&W noise compare to B&W film grain

Very nice - Love the first one especially - and how does the noise compare to film grain? Well, if you'd shot film at 6400 the damn image would look like some sort of construction with golf balls.

torags

thanks for the response..

roflrofl

Mr. Quiet

Nice shots!

Personally, I like both of them, but if I had to choose, the first one would win!