New slideshow option on the homepage

jfriendjfriend Registered Users Posts: 8,097 Major grins
edited November 5, 2009 in SmugMug Support
In the homepage layout button is now a slideshow option. If you pick it, you can then set options for the slideshow without writing code.

There's also an option for a single photo on the homepage or a video on the homepage in the homepage layout menu too.
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  • MalteMalte Registered Users Posts: 1,181 Major grins
    edited October 23, 2009
    jfriend wrote:
    In the homepage layout button is now a slideshow option. If you pick it, you can then set options for the slideshow without writing code.

    There's also an option for a single photo on the homepage or a video on the homepage in the homepage layout menu too.

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    Malte
  • MalteMalte Registered Users Posts: 1,181 Major grins
    edited October 23, 2009
    jfriend wrote:
    In the homepage layout button is now a slideshow option. If you pick it, you can then set options for the slideshow without writing code.

    There's also an option for a single photo on the homepage or a video on the homepage in the homepage layout menu too.

    So what else is new, John? ear.gif The release notes won't tell. :confused

    Malte
  • jfriendjfriend Registered Users Posts: 8,097 Major grins
    edited October 23, 2009
    Malte wrote:
    So what else is new, John? ear.gif The release notes won't tell. :confused

    Malte
    That's all I found when browsing around. They teased us saying that something was new, but haven't yet announced it. I don't know if there's more.
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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited October 23, 2009
    Malte wrote:
    So what else is new, John? ear.gif The release notes won't tell. :confused

    Malte
    Anne will have them updated today, hang tight.
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited October 23, 2009
    jfriend wrote:
    I don't know if there's more.
    nod.gif

    Slideshow box, recent photos box, single photo / movie box for homepage.

    New stretchy Thumbnails style, to replace allthumbs and traditional. Try it out. Yeah, allthumbs / traditional styles still available in the customize gallery settings still.

    Updated Lightbox view, incorporating comments, exif, save photo. This paves the way for us to retire the on-page single image styles one day as well. Lightbox launches from Journal style as well, so you can get photo info, comment, etc.

    Whew.
  • petebockenpetebocken Registered Users Posts: 31 Big grins
    edited October 23, 2009
    Embed homepage slideshow and recent photos on other site?
    Can you embed the new home page slideshow and recent photos code onto another site outside of smugmug? Would be nice.
  • AllenAllen Registered Users Posts: 10,014 Major grins
    edited October 23, 2009
    Andy wrote:
    nod.gif...Lightbox launches from Journal style as well, so you can get photo info, comment, etc.

    Whew.
    Did you'all forget the Journal (old) style? Lightbox doesn't work there.
    http://www.photosbyat.com/gallery/1764417
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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited October 23, 2009
    petebocken wrote:
    Can you embed the new home page slideshow and recent photos code onto another site outside of smugmug? Would be nice.
    You can use the 'show off' feature in the Share button.
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited October 23, 2009
    Allen wrote:
    Did you'all forget the Journal (old) style? Lightbox doesn't work there.
    http://www.photosbyat.com/gallery/1764417
    No we didn't forget it. It will still go to the old Single Image pages.
  • AllenAllen Registered Users Posts: 10,014 Major grins
    edited October 23, 2009
    Andy wrote:
    No we didn't forget it. It will still go to the old Single Image pages.
    But why not the lightboxheadscratch.gif
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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited October 23, 2009
    Allen wrote:
    But why not the lightboxheadscratch.gif
    Stay tuned....
  • BaldyBaldy Registered Users, Super Moderators Posts: 2,853 moderator
    edited October 23, 2009
    Malte wrote:
    So what else is new, John? ear.gif The release notes won't tell. :confused

    Malte
    http://blogs.smugmug.com/release-notes/2009/10/23/animoto-better-viewing-and-homepage-goodies-for-all-october-22-2009/

    Sorry they were delayed.
  • colourboxcolourbox Registered Users Posts: 2,095 Major grins
    edited October 24, 2009
    Andy wrote:
    New stretchy Thumbnails style, to replace allthumbs and traditional. Try it out. Yeah, allthumbs / traditional styles still available in the customize gallery settings still.

    But are these deprecated to the point of being retired in the future?
    Andy wrote:
    Updated Lightbox view, incorporating comments, exif, save photo. This paves the way for us to retire the on-page single image styles one day as well.

    If you retire Single Image styles, will there be any style left that can be customized so that only one image appears on it and with all normal page customizations visible? (background, header, footer, description, etc. which are missing from the Lightbox) and you can set up an introduction page full of thumbnails? That's what I get now with All Thumbs plus Single Image.

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    I always thought Single Image was a great "skeleton" to build pages with. I do love the amazing JavaScript gadgets that Smugmug employs, but for some galleries I want a simple matted fine art look, focusing on the image, without all the eye candy and toys.
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited October 24, 2009
    colourbox wrote:
    But are these deprecated to the point of being retired in the future?
    Yes. For now, they can be selected (forced) in the gallery settings.
    If you retire Single Image styles, will there be any style left that can be customized so that only one image appears on it and with all normal page customizations visible? (background, header, footer, description, etc. which are missing from the Lightbox) and you can set up an introduction page full of thumbnails? That's what I get now with All Thumbs plus Single Image.

    690628798_jkUDr-L.jpg

    I always thought Single Image was a great "skeleton" to build pages with. I do love the amazing JavaScript gadgets that Smugmug employs, but for some galleries I want a simple matted fine art look, focusing on the image, without all the eye candy and toys.
    We'll discuss, thanks.!
  • brandofamilybrandofamily Registered Users Posts: 2,013 Major grins
    edited October 24, 2009
    jfriend wrote:
    In the homepage layout button is now a slideshow option. If you pick it, you can then set options for the slideshow without writing code.

    There's also an option for a single photo on the homepage or a video on the homepage in the homepage layout menu too.
    Can the new homepage slideshow be made stretchy? Or am I better off leaving the current code in my site if I want it to strectch?
  • jfriendjfriend Registered Users Posts: 8,097 Major grins
    edited October 24, 2009
    Can the new homepage slideshow be made stretchy? Or am I better off leaving the current code in my site if I want it to strectch?
    Not without new code being written that doesn't exist now. Is there any reason to change? The new homepage slideshow has a lot fewer options available.
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  • jfriendjfriend Registered Users Posts: 8,097 Major grins
    edited October 24, 2009
    Folks should realize that the new homepage slideshow is kind of like easy customizer for the slideshow. If you don't already have a working slideshow and only need something simple, the new one is definitely easy.

    But, if you already have a working slideshow or want to use advanced options (like a border or a clickURL or make it stretchy), you can't do that with the new one. Stick with the one you've already got. This new one was not intended to supercede the custom one and has no advantages over it other than the checkbox UI.
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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited October 24, 2009
    jfriend wrote:
    This new one was not intended to supercede the custom one and has no advantages over it other than the checkbox UI.
    Which, for a lot of folks, is going to be huge :D We've already gotten raves for adding this... I wish we had done it 2years ago lol3.gif
  • jfriendjfriend Registered Users Posts: 8,097 Major grins
    edited October 24, 2009
    Andy wrote:
    Which, for a lot of folks, is going to be huge :D We've already gotten raves for adding this... I wish we had done it 2years ago lol3.gif
    I'm not knocking it. I'm just getting questions about changing/switching to it and can it be made stretchy and wanted to clarify that there is no reason to switch to it if you already have a working slideshow.

    Further, if you're capable of following directions, there are more features in the custom slideshow.
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  • Mohamed.GhuloomMohamed.Ghuloom Registered Users Posts: 305 Major grins
    edited October 24, 2009
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited October 24, 2009
    jfriend wrote:
    I'm not knocking it. I'm just getting questions about changing/switching to it and can it be made stretchy and wanted to clarify that there is no reason to switch to it if you already have a working slideshow.

    Further, if you're capable of following directions, there are more features in the custom slideshow.
    I know. There are always more features if you're willing to use the customizeable options.

    The homepage box is for folks that don't come to Dgrin, don't use the Wiki, and are allergic to codes of any kind :D
  • MalteMalte Registered Users Posts: 1,181 Major grins
    edited October 24, 2009
    The slideshow shows hidden photos in a gallery, is that a bug?

    Malte
  • MalteMalte Registered Users Posts: 1,181 Major grins
    edited October 24, 2009
    Malte wrote:
    The slideshow shows hidden photos in a gallery, is that a bug?

    Malte

    No it doesn't, I was logged in!

    Malte
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited October 24, 2009
    Malte wrote:
    No it doesn't, I was logged in!

    Malte
    :D
  • petebockenpetebocken Registered Users Posts: 31 Big grins
    edited October 24, 2009
    Andy wrote:
    You can use the 'show off' feature in the Share button.

    That's pretty sweet, but looks like it only works on a per gallery basis. I wanted to be able to have a "recent photos" slideshow to embed on my main site (outside of smugmug). Then it will constantly be updated on my main site with the photos I upload.

    I was using some code a while back that pulled this from the RSS feed and just displayed the thumbnails, but it was kind of funky and I stopped using it.
  • LiveAwakeLiveAwake Registered Users Posts: 263 Major grins
    edited October 26, 2009
    Slideshow order?
    This is GREAT! Thank you so much for adding the easy slideshow option.

    I am currently using a slideshow on my home page based on keyword, and I'd like to know if there is a way for me to customize the order that pictures are shown. For example, if I click the keyword that I'm using for the slideshow, I can see all of the pictures with that keyword. If I was then able to re-order them just like I can in a standard gallery, this would be a very simple way to customize the order of the slideshow. As it is now, I can't seem to find any way to do that.

    Thanks in advance for your help!
  • klphotoklphoto Registered Users Posts: 49 Big grins
    edited October 27, 2009
    The issue with continuing to use the custom slideshow in the bio box is the fact that the code shows in search results since it is part of the meta description.

    I wanted to use the new slideshow on homepage feature to eliminate the code from the meta description but I can't because it doesn't allow borders and a few other options.
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited October 27, 2009
    klphoto wrote:
    The issue with continuing to use the custom slideshow in the bio box is the fact that the code shows in search results since it is part of the meta description.

    I wanted to use the new slideshow on homepage feature to eliminate the code from the meta description but I can't because it doesn't allow borders and a few other options.
    See the Red Gotcha here, it won't show if you follow our instructions

    http://wiki.smugmug.net/display/SmugMug/Flash+Slideshow
  • klphotoklphoto Registered Users Posts: 49 Big grins
    edited October 27, 2009
    Andy wrote:
    See the Red Gotcha here, it won't show if you follow our instructions

    http://wiki.smugmug.net/display/SmugMug/Flash+Slideshow

    Thanks Andy,

    I have seen that post before and while it eliminates the code showing on google it doesn't take care of it when sharing in facebook. I know you mentioned in another post just to remove the code part from facebook, but it would be nice not to have to do that.

    Also when I ran an SEO analyzer it was saying the meta tag had too many characters which might not be good for some search robots.
  • jfriendjfriend Registered Users Posts: 8,097 Major grins
    edited October 27, 2009
    klphoto wrote:
    Thanks Andy,

    I have seen that post before and while it eliminates the code showing on google it doesn't take care of it when sharing in facebook. I know you mentioned in another post just to remove the code part from facebook, but it would be nice not to have to do that.

    Also when I ran an SEO analyzer it was saying the meta tag had too many characters which might not be good for some search robots.
    Note to Smugmug: The reason we're constantly in this bind is that Smugmug is taking our bio text and shoving it in the metadata. Not only that, it's not doing it smartly. It could easily ignore everything inside a <script> tag when it did that, but it's not. There are a number of great solutions to this. I sure wish Smugmug would decide to do one of them and give us much better control over how the metadata for our page is presented. Here are some options:
    1. Give us a customization field right in the control panel site-wide-customization for what we want in our metadata. If nothing is entered there, then they can fetch some default text from the bio if they want. But, if we enter something there, then we control what's there and there won't be any more javascript in our metadata.
    2. Give us a separate customization box (different from the biobox) on the homepage that we can put things in like slideshows. They can keep slurping text from the biobox for metadata, but we won't be putting the slideshow there so this problem won't occur.
    3. When slurping text from the bioBox, Smugmug should ignore text inside of <script> tags. This would keep the script stuff from getting into the metadata.
    With all the recent emphasis on SEO, I'm surprised we still have NO legitimate control over the metadata in our own pages and how our result gets presented on Google. Instead, it's hacked from the bioBox which is our only place for homepage-only customization. There are too many things trying to use the same customization box and thus we can't get what we want in one or the other. We just need separate control over homepage customization and metadata rather than cramming the two into the same object.
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