Watchman Sunset

kdogkdog Administrators Posts: 11,681 moderator
edited November 10, 2009 in Landscapes
Here's another iconic view from Zion, the Watchman, shot at sunset. Despite having seemingly nice clouds, we never got the color in the sky that we had hoped for. But that won't stop me from posting a couple of my best shots from that evening.

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The "Watchman" is the peak that's lit up in this view.
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Funny story. We were shooting from a bridge above the river, and shoulder-to-shoulder with probably a dozen other photographers waiting for the sunset. Every once in a while, some completely oblivious people would go down to the river and start hanging out right in everybody's compositions. The longer they stayed, the more annoyed the photographers got. One clueless photographer even set up a tripod and starting shooting pictures right at the rivers edge, until getting booed out of there. In one of my pictures above, there's an entire family resting by the river which has been replaced with a shrub. You'd think after a while they'd become self-conscious hanging out in front of a dozen cameras on tripods, but maybe that's just me. :giggle

Comments and critiques are always welcome.

Thanks,
-joel

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  • shadesshades Registered Users Posts: 32 Big grins
    edited October 28, 2009
    I really like your shots. The one where the Watchman is lit up is good stuff! Did you use a GND in any/all of them? headscratch.gif Your Subway pictures were great too.
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  • bryanj87bryanj87 Registered Users Posts: 859 Major grins
    edited October 28, 2009
    That first shot is jawdropping! Wow. thumb.gif
  • coscorrosacoscorrosa Registered Users Posts: 2,284 Major grins
    edited October 28, 2009
    Definitely a lot more color than when I was there several weeks ago. My favorite is the second, love the way the sun lights up that sandstone.

    As far as people crawling along the river, that's happened every time I've been there. It's more understandable when it's just normal people playing in and along the river, but not excusable for photographers (for two reasons: it's rude, and even more importantly, the compositions aren't nearly as good from down there!).
  • Sexy6ChickSexy6Chick Registered Users Posts: 948 Major grins
    edited October 28, 2009
    coscorrosa wrote:
    My favorite is the second, love the way the sun lights up that sandstone.

    Agreed, though they are all wonderful in my opinion!
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  • EiaEia Registered Users Posts: 3,627 Major grins
    edited October 28, 2009
    I think I like the second best because that beautiful light is hitting the side of the mountains. But - they are all gorgeous. I would never have known there were people by the river!:D
  • sgonensgonen Registered Users Posts: 178 Major grins
    edited October 28, 2009
    Great stuff Joel, love the compositions and colors!

    What people?, I can't see any rolleyes1.gif
  • davemandaveman Registered Users Posts: 120 Major grins
    edited October 29, 2009
    Nice set of shots - I like what you came up with - particularly the sky star..

    When I was there I did not have any photographers down there, but two deer come up along the hill on the right for about 15 minutes, right after sunrise. I kept hoping they would walk over by the river bank so they would get into my shot, but to no avail...
  • CWSkopecCWSkopec Registered Users Posts: 1,325 Major grins
    edited October 29, 2009
    Great shots, Joel!

    #2 is begging to be framed and hung up!! clap.gif
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  • wirehuntwirehunt Registered Users Posts: 79 Big grins
    edited October 29, 2009
    Some great shots. The only thing we're missing in New Zealand, all our gorges are covered in native bush, it makes it very hard to get these beautiful wide open photos.
    Stephen Dickson: The one from the south island of New Zealand.

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  • GORIOGORIO Registered Users Posts: 262 Major grins
    edited October 29, 2009
    the 1st image in there is the strongest one here! exposing the entire image well with that light peeking is hard! clap.gif the rays are fantastic. just some soft cc the trees in there are a bit soft to my liking is this hdr or single exposure?
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  • kdogkdog Administrators Posts: 11,681 moderator
    edited October 29, 2009
    shades wrote:
    I really like your shots. The one where the Watchman is lit up is good stuff! Did you use a GND in any/all of them? headscratch.gif Your Subway pictures were great too.

    Thanks for the compliments, Bart. No GND as I don't own one yet (maybe some day?) At least half the folks shooting the scene were using them though. Instead, I used a "software gnd", by using Photomatix "exposure fusion", which combines the photos, but doesn't do any tone mapping.

    Regards,
    -joel
  • kdogkdog Administrators Posts: 11,681 moderator
    edited October 29, 2009
    bryanj87 wrote:
    That first shot is jawdropping! Wow. thumb.gif

    Why thank you, sir! thumb.gif
    coscorrosa wrote:
    Definitely a lot more color than when I was there several weeks ago. My favorite is the second, love the way the sun lights up that sandstone.

    As far as people crawling along the river, that's happened every time I've been there. It's more understandable when it's just normal people playing in and along the river, but not excusable for photographers (for two reasons: it's rude, and even more importantly, the compositions aren't nearly as good from down there!).
    Thanks, Ron. We could have used a bit more light on the sandstone, but I tend to be a glutton about those things, so I'll shut up. :giggle

    The photog down by the river seemed to actually be shooting into the river. Not quite sure what was up with that. headscratch.gif When the catcalls and boos started, he went and hid behind a bush.
    Sexy6Chick wrote:
    Agreed, though they are all wonderful in my opinion!
    Thanks, Sexy6Chick! I appreciate that. thumb.gif
    Eia wrote:
    I think I like the second best because that beautiful light is hitting the side of the mountains. But - they are all gorgeous. I would never have known there were people by the river!
    Thanks, Eia. I wish that light has lasted. It was there for literally only seconds.
    sgonen wrote:
    Great stuff Joel, love the compositions and colors!

    What people?, I can't see any
    Thanks, Shimon. Fortunately, the family of four were all standing together when I took this shot. Just for funnies, I widened the spot healing tool so it encompassed all of them at once, and clicked just to see what would happen. Voila they all vanished, and it took some careful inspection for me to figure out what it had done. It had actually cloned a bush from surprisingly far away in the scene and planted it right where they stood. I don't know if that was serendipity, or some serious smarts going on behind the scene in Photoshop, but it was damn impressive.
    daveman wrote:
    Nice set of shots - I like what you came up with - particularly the sky star..

    When I was there I did not have any photographers down there, but two deer come up along the hill on the right for about 15 minutes, right after sunrise. I kept hoping they would walk over by the river bank so they would get into my shot, but to no avail...
    Thanks, Daveman! Oh, the deer would have been amazing. You said "sunrise", did you mean sunset?
    CWSkopec wrote:
    Great shots, Joel!

    #2 is begging to be framed and hung up!!
    Thanks, Chris. Maybe I'll do that. :D
    wirehunt wrote:
    Some great shots. The only thing we're missing in New Zealand, all our gorges are covered in native bush, it makes it very hard to get these beautiful wide open photos.
    Thanks, Wirehunt! We've got plenty of that here on the east coast as well where I grew up. I really love the wide open spaces of the southwest here. Of course, I've seen pictures of New Zealand, and all that greenery in the gorges are breathtaking, so you don't get much sympathy from me. :D
    GORIO wrote:
    the 1st image in there is the strongest one here! exposing the entire image well with that light peeking is hard! the rays are fantastic. just some soft cc the trees in there are a bit soft to my liking is this hdr or single exposure?
    Thanks, Gorio! I like the sunstar too. Multiple exposure, but not HDR. Are the trees soft? Could be some motion in there, although the tool is supposed to minimize that. I used less sharpening on these because Ron told me my previous shots were oversharpened, so you just can't win. rolleyes1.gif :giggle Then they're posted at full-size in Smugmug for printing, and so these copies are downsized, with the default down-res sharpening that Smuggie gives you. So sharpening is kind of a crap shoot in this environment.

    Here's a 100% crop from the center of the shot. I dunno, is this soft? headscratch.gif
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    Thanks for the comments, everybody. thumb.gif
    -joel
  • redleashredleash Registered Users Posts: 3,840 Major grins
    edited October 29, 2009
    Great work, Joel--both in camera and after. I'm going to start sending you my images that need cloning out--great job on the bush people! rolleyes1.gif

    Hard to choose between #1 and #2 for me--but I keep going back to the sunstar in #1. Awesome!

    Lauren
    "But ask the animals, and they will teach you." (Job 12:7)

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  • kdogkdog Administrators Posts: 11,681 moderator
    edited October 29, 2009
    redleash wrote:
    Great work, Joel--both in camera and after. I'm going to start sending you my images that need cloning out--great job on the bush people! rolleyes1.gif

    Hard to choose between #1 and #2 for me--but I keep going back to the sunstar in #1. Awesome!

    Lauren
    "Bush People" rolleyes1.gif

    Thanks, Lauren. #1 seems to be to winner by popular demand.

    Thanks for checking in. thumb.gif

    -joel
  • dlplumerdlplumer Registered Users Posts: 8,081 Major grins
    edited October 30, 2009
    bowdown.gifbowdown.gifbowdown.gif Congrats Joel on awesome shots.clap.gifclap.gifclap.gif
  • kdogkdog Administrators Posts: 11,681 moderator
    edited October 31, 2009
    dlplumer wrote:
    bowdown.gifbowdown.gifbowdown.gif Congrats Joel on awesome shots.clap.gifclap.gifclap.gif

    Thanks, Dan. :D:D:D
  • wirehuntwirehunt Registered Users Posts: 79 Big grins
    edited October 31, 2009
    kdog wrote:
    Here's a 100% crop from the center of the shot. I dunno, is this soft? headscratch.gif
    696423767_Nb9aX-O.jpg

    Thanks for the comments, everybody. thumb.gif
    -joel

    It doesn't look soft to me, but you may need a lens clean, high right in the cloud. Is that a spot or funny cloud?
    Stephen Dickson: The one from the south island of New Zealand.

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  • kdogkdog Administrators Posts: 11,681 moderator
    edited October 31, 2009
    wirehunt wrote:
    It doesn't look soft to me, but you may need a lens clean, high right in the cloud. Is that a spot or funny cloud?

    Sensor dust. Good eye!

    Cheers,
    -joel
  • dlplumerdlplumer Registered Users Posts: 8,081 Major grins
    edited November 9, 2009
    These are so great they deserve another bump bowdown.gif
  • BeachBillBeachBill Registered Users Posts: 1,311 Major grins
    edited November 9, 2009
    Okay, I just noticed I haven't commented yet... I love that W...I...D...E angle and sun star in #1. SWEET! thumb.gif

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  • Ali Al-EidAli Al-Eid Registered Users Posts: 8 Beginner grinner
    edited November 9, 2009
    Simply Wonderful, Ammazing, Attractive


    I really liked your Shots ..

    regards,
  • kdogkdog Administrators Posts: 11,681 moderator
    edited November 10, 2009
    dlplumer wrote:
    These are so great they deserve another bump bowdown.gif
    Thanks, Dan. You're too kind.
  • kdogkdog Administrators Posts: 11,681 moderator
    edited November 10, 2009
    Ali Al-Eid wrote:
    Simply Wonderful, Ammazing, Attractive


    I really liked your Shots ..

    regards,

    Thanks, Ali! I'm looking forward to seeing more of your shots as well. thumb.gif

    -joel
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