Incorrect Exif Information

travischancetravischance Registered Users Posts: 642 Major grins
edited January 17, 2010 in SmugMug Support
Anyone else experience incorrect information on your photos? For instance, I recently shot a few rural landscapes in Aperture Priority. When I posted them on my site (and selected Yes for camera info), the Exposure Program displays as Auto. Is there something I'm missing? I do very little editing in CS4 and I'm wondering if that has something to do with it. Any ideas??? Thanks....
Travis M. Chance
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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited November 12, 2009
    As always, a link to the photo will help us to help you.
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  • travischancetravischance Registered Users Posts: 642 Major grins
    edited November 12, 2009
    Andy wrote:
    As always, a link to the photo will help us to help you.
    Shot in Aperture Priority with a B+W Kaeseman CPL & Coking GND f16 @ 6s

    684558879_RYifc-M.jpg
    Travis M. Chance
    twin Mark IV's & a bunch of "L" glass
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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited November 12, 2009
    Av mode is an 'auto' mode, and that's how we report it. I'm sorry we just read the exif from Canon the way it's reported.
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  • travischancetravischance Registered Users Posts: 642 Major grins
    edited November 12, 2009
    Andy wrote:
    Av mode is an 'auto' mode, and that's how we report it. I'm sorry we just read the exif from Canon the way it's reported.
    That's strange because these photos were also taken in Aperture Priority on my 40D which displays correctly...
    Travis M. Chance
    twin Mark IV's & a bunch of "L" glass
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  • travischancetravischance Registered Users Posts: 642 Major grins
    edited January 14, 2010
    Andy wrote:
    Av mode is an 'auto' mode, and that's how we report it. I'm sorry we just read the exif from Canon the way it's reported.

    7D photo shot in AV from Ken Westermann here
    7D photo shot in AV from me here

    Westermann's reports as Aperture Priority on the "Exposure Program" in Exif, while mine does not report at all. ne_nau.gifne_nau.gifne_nau.gif At this point, I believe that it's something with my account. It seems that we both have Power/Pro accounts. As a result, I've been shooting in Manual lately (great for learning) but would certainly prefer to shoot in Aperture Priority. I know we've visited this a few times, but clearly there's an inconsistency somewhere. Same camera, same settings - I used a custom WB and his appears as auto WB. Is it possible that something in my SM account is preventing data from fully reporting? Thanks again Andy!!!
    Screenshots below:

    764538507_9r6ak-L.jpg
    764538514_DEa2t-XL.jpg
    764538501_Gi8or-L.jpg
    764538519_U6P3q-L.jpg
    Travis M. Chance
    twin Mark IV's & a bunch of "L" glass
    site ∙ facebook
  • devbobodevbobo Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 4,339 SmugMug Employee
    edited January 14, 2010
    I have downloaded/inspected the originals in all 3 cases. Both of your photos are missing the ExposureProgram exif value, and the other image isn't.

    How are you editing these files prior to uploading ?
    David Parry
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  • travischancetravischance Registered Users Posts: 642 Major grins
    edited January 14, 2010
    devbobo wrote:
    I have downloaded/inspected the originals in all 3 cases. Both of your photos are missing the ExposureProgram exif value, and the other image isn't.

    How are you editing these files prior to uploading ?

    David:

    My post processing workflow is very simple:
    1. RAW conversion using Canon's Digital Photo Professional (minor adjustments to Shadow & Highlights) to jpeg
    2. Unsharp Mask, saturation & Curves adjustments applied in CS4
    3. Saved as using quality of "8" to stay under SmugMug's 10mb limit
    Travis M. Chance
    twin Mark IV's & a bunch of "L" glass
    site ∙ facebook
  • devbobodevbobo Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 4,339 SmugMug Employee
    edited January 14, 2010
    Hey Trav,

    It doesn't seem like you are doing anything special/weird, for whatever reason that exif parameter isn't in the file that you are uploading. Can you double check whether it exists in bridge or something similar ?

    Cheers,

    David
    David Parry
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  • travischancetravischance Registered Users Posts: 642 Major grins
    edited January 14, 2010
    It does appear in both. I also have Photoshop Elements and the same issues occur. I've only had CS4 since the summer and most of my photos were edited using Elements 7 until recently.......
    Travis M. Chance
    twin Mark IV's & a bunch of "L" glass
    site ∙ facebook
  • devbobodevbobo Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 4,339 SmugMug Employee
    edited January 14, 2010
    with one of the photos you linked to above, can you please reprocess directly from the raw to a jpg (don't do any other processing)...then upload it.

    Once it's uploaded can u please post the url.

    Thanks,

    David
    David Parry
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  • travischancetravischance Registered Users Posts: 642 Major grins
    edited January 14, 2010
    I'd already deleted the files (RAW & jpeg) so I took a new photo in Aperture Priority of the "beauty & beast". See links below.

    Beauty & the Beast
    http://www.travischancephotography.com/Community/exif-test/10943096_xebYD#764922690_r3nXB

    Exif Data from Canon Digital Photo Professional
    764922186_ra9kY-L.jpg
    Travis M. Chance
    twin Mark IV's & a bunch of "L" glass
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  • devbobodevbobo Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 4,339 SmugMug Employee
    edited January 14, 2010
    Can you please email the raw and the jpg to me, david at smugmug

    Thanks,

    David
    David Parry
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  • travischancetravischance Registered Users Posts: 642 Major grins
    edited January 14, 2010
    devbobo wrote:
    Can you please email the raw and the jpg to me, david at smugmug

    Thanks,

    David

    On the way.
    Travis M. Chance
    twin Mark IV's & a bunch of "L" glass
    site ∙ facebook
  • devbobodevbobo Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 4,339 SmugMug Employee
    edited January 14, 2010
    uncletrav wrote:
    On the way.

    thanks, I got the raw...did you send the jpg as well ?
    David Parry
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  • travischancetravischance Registered Users Posts: 642 Major grins
    edited January 14, 2010
    devbobo wrote:
    thanks, I got the raw...did you send the jpg as well ?

    Yes'sir...about 2 minutes later.
    Travis M. Chance
    twin Mark IV's & a bunch of "L" glass
    site ∙ facebook
  • devbobodevbobo Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 4,339 SmugMug Employee
    edited January 14, 2010
    uncletrav wrote:
    Yes'sir...about 2 minutes later.

    yeah, it just turned up thumb.gif
    David Parry
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  • devbobodevbobo Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 4,339 SmugMug Employee
    edited January 14, 2010
    Can you please do a test for me.

    1. Reedit the raw using DPP
    2. Export to jpg, but don't embed the color profile
    3. Open in CS4
    4. Save as...and choose to embed the sRGB IEC61966-2.1 color profile.
    5. Upload
    6. Does all the exif show up ?
    David Parry
    SmugMug API Developer
    My Photos
  • travischancetravischance Registered Users Posts: 642 Major grins
    edited January 14, 2010
    devbobo wrote:
    Can you please do a test for me.

    1. Reedit the raw using DPP
    2. Export to jpg, but don't embed the color profile
    3. Open in CS4
    4. Save as...and choose to embed the sRGB IEC61966-2.1 color profile.
    5. Upload
    6. Does all the exif show up ?

    headscratch.gifheadscratch.gifheadscratch.gif Same result....
    http://www.travischancephotography.com/Community/exif-test/10943096_xebYD#764962634_RvMe7

    I also saved it as a "Exif-Tiff 8bit", coverted to jpeg in CS4, uploaded and still doesn't show AV as the shooting mode...
    Travis M. Chance
    twin Mark IV's & a bunch of "L" glass
    site ∙ facebook
  • travischancetravischance Registered Users Posts: 642 Major grins
    edited January 14, 2010
    uncletrav wrote:
    headscratch.gifheadscratch.gifheadscratch.gif Same result....
    http://www.travischancephotography.com/Community/exif-test/10943096_xebYD#764962634_RvMe7

    I also saved it as a "Exif-Tiff 8bit", coverted to jpeg in CS4, uploaded and still doesn't show AV as the shooting mode...

    ???
    Travis M. Chance
    twin Mark IV's & a bunch of "L" glass
    site ∙ facebook
  • devbobodevbobo Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 4,339 SmugMug Employee
    edited January 15, 2010
    uncletrav wrote:
    ???

    yeah, debugging it while working on some other stuff. I'll let you know once I know something
    David Parry
    SmugMug API Developer
    My Photos
  • travischancetravischance Registered Users Posts: 642 Major grins
    edited January 15, 2010
    devbobo wrote:
    yeah, debugging it while working on some other stuff. I'll let you know once I know something

    Thanks a ton for your efforts!
    Travis M. Chance
    twin Mark IV's & a bunch of "L" glass
    site ∙ facebook
  • devbobodevbobo Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 4,339 SmugMug Employee
    edited January 17, 2010
    from a bit of trial & error, it appears that DPP doesn't export ALL exif data correctly, I have been able to determine that the following items aren't always exported...

    - FocalLength
    - MeteringMode
    - ExposureProgram

    Doing a bit of googling, I found similar references on other photography forums.

    Cheers,

    David
    David Parry
    SmugMug API Developer
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  • travischancetravischance Registered Users Posts: 642 Major grins
    edited January 17, 2010
    David:

    Thanks for your help. I guess I'll be using ACR going forward. Please pass my Thanks along to Andy for forwarding my request to you. All the best!
    Travis M. Chance
    twin Mark IV's & a bunch of "L" glass
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