39 megapixels, wow, that's a lot. I'm thinking that the camera and back wouldn't be the only expenditure that you would have to have since the images are a quarter gig each. What does a 1 Tb drive run a person these days? Even that is only 4000 images. Seems to me the only real use for these cameras is for a commercial studio with enough dough to get everything else they'd need.
That and multi-millionaires with a serious digital photography hobby. And oh how I'd love to be that multi-millionaire.
Y'all don't want to hear me, you just want to dance.
Seems to me the only real use for these cameras is for a commercial studio with enough dough to get everything else they'd need.
I agree mike however in hindsight i bet people said that about a lot of things we use everyday now. I once paid $280 ($230 yank) to upgrade my Amega from 1 meg ram to 3 megs. This stuff just creeps into our lives & before we know it we will be looking at cameras that are 1 gig. I dont know of a product that has the same growth curve of Digital Cameras atm.
I agree mike however in hindsight i bet people said that about a lot of things we use everyday now. I once paid $280 ($230 yank) to upgrade my Amega from 1 meg ram to 3 megs. This stuff just creeps into our lives & before we know it we will be looking at cameras that are 1 gig. I dont know of a product that has the same growth curve of Digital Cameras atm.
When I got a computer in 1997 with a 4 gig hard drive, everyone asked me how I was ever going to fill it. HA!
I don't know that medium format will ever become the choice of regular joe or non-commercial/marketing/high fashion photographers because of their limitations (time between shots, super massive file sizes, galactic prices, their freaking hugeness, and so on). I read somewhere that the 1DS Mark II was becoming the magazine/marketing camera of choice because the quality you can get rivals that of the current batch of medium format cameras and the advantages of size, speed, price, etc. far outweighed the increase in quality of the medium format digitals.
Also, my thought is that photojournalism is really driving the digital camera revolution these days. I think that the dSLR is really the wave of the future and that medium format will always be a niche market.
Then again, I don't really know all that much.
Y'all don't want to hear me, you just want to dance.
3 windows multi-tasking? Them there is olden days. But then again I remember having my old atari computers (think commadore 64) and having to run language cartridges, 5.5" floppys (that were really floppy), no hard drive, 14.4 modems, and having to know basic programming to run programs. There even was this cool AI game created by a psychologist called "Eliza". The program was a psychologist in and of itself and you could hold entire conversations with it. I miss that game.
FIRST YORKSHIREMAN: You were lucky. We lived for three months in a paper bag in a septic tank. We used to have to get up at six in the morning, clean the paper bag, eat a crust of stale bread, go to work down t' mill, fourteen hours a day, week-in week-out, for sixpence a week, and when we got home our Dad would thrash us to sleep wi' his belt.
SECOND YORKSHIREMAN: Luxury. We used to have to get out of the lake at six o'clock in the morning, clean the lake, eat a handful of 'ot gravel, work twenty hour day at mill for tuppence a month, come home, and Dad would thrash us to sleep with a broken bottle, if we were lucky!
THIRD YORKSHIREMAN: Well, of course, we had it tough. We used to 'ave to get up out of shoebox at twelve o'clock at night and lick road clean wit' tongue. We had two bits of cold gravel, worked twenty-four hours a day at mill for sixpence every four years, and when we got home our Dad would slice us in two wit' bread knife.
FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN: Right. I had to get up in the morning at ten o'clock at night half an hour before I went to bed, drink a cup of sulphuric acid, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay mill owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our Dad and our mother would kill us and dance about on our graves singing Hallelujah.
FIRST YORKSHIREMAN: And you try and tell the young people of today that ..... they won't believe you. ALL: They won't!
FIRST YORKSHIREMAN: You were lucky. We lived for three months in a paper bag in a septic tank. We used to have to get up at six in the morning, clean the paper bag, eat a crust of stale bread, go to work down t' mill, fourteen hours a day, week-in week-out, for sixpence a week, and when we got home our Dad would thrash us to sleep wi' his belt.
SECOND YORKSHIREMAN: Luxury. We used to have to get out of the lake at six o'clock in the morning, clean the lake, eat a handful of 'ot gravel, work twenty hour day at mill for tuppence a month, come home, and Dad would thrash us to sleep with a broken bottle, if we were lucky!
THIRD YORKSHIREMAN: Well, of course, we had it tough. We used to 'ave to get up out of shoebox at twelve o'clock at night and lick road clean wit' tongue. We had two bits of cold gravel, worked twenty-four hours a day at mill for sixpence every four years, and when we got home our Dad would slice us in two wit' bread knife.
FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN: Right. I had to get up in the morning at ten o'clock at night half an hour before I went to bed, drink a cup of sulphuric acid, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay mill owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our Dad and our mother would kill us and dance about on our graves singing Hallelujah.
FIRST YORKSHIREMAN: And you try and tell the young people of today that ..... they won't believe you. ALL: They won't!
Awww.... Gus!!
When I was a young'un, I HAD to WALK to school, UP HILLl!! BOTH WAYS!!:D
Path I heard that one. Only my dads variation was, "When I was a kid, I had to walk up hill both ways to school, in 10 feet of snow, with only baggies on my feet for shoes."
When I have kids it will be different though
"what your complaining about a 5ghz P$ chip with only 3 gb's of ram. You ungrateful little brat. When I was a kid we didn't even have 286's, 4mb of ram or even hard drives. We didn't have windows, no we had to run basic, we didn't even have dos back then. Hell we couldn't even turn it on if we didn't have a good strong hamster running in the wheel to power it."
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Yikes, this reminds me of the disconnect my brain suffers when I do the Escape from Alcatraz triathlon. Everyone asks if I'm afraid of shark bites. Actually, I'm 1,000,000 times more likely to get injured driving there than swimming in the bay.
Now that we ship more than a million prints/year and I see every print complaint, I can't tell you how many photographers are shocked that their 1Ds MKII is nowhere near their Hassleblad in image quality in many situations.
I have never seen a print returned for too few pixels. I've seen thousands returned for lack of dynamic range, for noise in the shadows, and poor color fidelity — especially under conditions of skin illuminated by the on board flash where fair-skinned caucasians go nuclear.
Member that 1Ds MKII shot I posted of Antarctica that should have been great but the highlights were blown and the shadows were noisy?
How about this face gone nuclear shot?
I'd rather have fewer but better pixels than march down this insane path of a zillion crappy ones and then somehow equating that with sheet film quality.
I have never seen a print returned for too few pixels. I've seen thousands returned for lack of dynamic range, for noise in the shadows, and poor color fidelity — especially under conditions of skin illuminated by the on board flash where fair-skinned caucasians go nuclear.
Member that 1Ds MKII shot I posted of Antarctica that should have been great but the highlights were blown and the shadows were noisy?
How about this face gone nuclear shot?
I'd rather have fewer but better pixels than march down this insane path of a zillion crappy ones and then somehow equating that with sheet film quality.
So is there a simple solution to the nuclear skin tones mixed with good ones? I run into it occasionally and it is PITA to deal with.
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That and multi-millionaires with a serious digital photography hobby. And oh how I'd love to be that multi-millionaire.
http://photos.mikelanestudios.com/
I don't know that medium format will ever become the choice of regular joe or non-commercial/marketing/high fashion photographers because of their limitations (time between shots, super massive file sizes, galactic prices, their freaking hugeness, and so on). I read somewhere that the 1DS Mark II was becoming the magazine/marketing camera of choice because the quality you can get rivals that of the current batch of medium format cameras and the advantages of size, speed, price, etc. far outweighed the increase in quality of the medium format digitals.
Also, my thought is that photojournalism is really driving the digital camera revolution these days. I think that the dSLR is really the wave of the future and that medium format will always be a niche market.
Then again, I don't really know all that much.
http://photos.mikelanestudios.com/
We opened 3 windows at once & had it 'Multitasking' & we all laughed saying that IBM was doomed.
Hey mike i know even less about anything but i easily colour in the bits i dont know
www.zxstudios.com
http://creativedragonstudios.smugmug.com
SECOND YORKSHIREMAN: Luxury. We used to have to get out of the lake at six o'clock in the morning, clean the lake, eat a handful of 'ot gravel, work twenty hour day at mill for tuppence a month, come home, and Dad would thrash us to sleep with a broken bottle, if we were lucky!
THIRD YORKSHIREMAN: Well, of course, we had it tough. We used to 'ave to get up out of shoebox at twelve o'clock at night and lick road clean wit' tongue. We had two bits of cold gravel, worked twenty-four hours a day at mill for sixpence every four years, and when we got home our Dad would slice us in two wit' bread knife.
FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN: Right. I had to get up in the morning at ten o'clock at night half an hour before I went to bed, drink a cup of sulphuric acid, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay mill owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our Dad and our mother would kill us and dance about on our graves singing Hallelujah.
FIRST YORKSHIREMAN: And you try and tell the young people of today that ..... they won't believe you. ALL: They won't!
Awww.... Gus!!
When I was a young'un, I HAD to WALK to school, UP HILLl!! BOTH WAYS!!:D
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When I have kids it will be different though
"what your complaining about a 5ghz P$ chip with only 3 gb's of ram. You ungrateful little brat. When I was a kid we didn't even have 286's, 4mb of ram or even hard drives. We didn't have windows, no we had to run basic, we didn't even have dos back then. Hell we couldn't even turn it on if we didn't have a good strong hamster running in the wheel to power it."
www.zxstudios.com
http://creativedragonstudios.smugmug.com
Now that we ship more than a million prints/year and I see every print complaint, I can't tell you how many photographers are shocked that their 1Ds MKII is nowhere near their Hassleblad in image quality in many situations.
I have never seen a print returned for too few pixels. I've seen thousands returned for lack of dynamic range, for noise in the shadows, and poor color fidelity — especially under conditions of skin illuminated by the on board flash where fair-skinned caucasians go nuclear.
Member that 1Ds MKII shot I posted of Antarctica that should have been great but the highlights were blown and the shadows were noisy?
How about this face gone nuclear shot?
I'd rather have fewer but better pixels than march down this insane path of a zillion crappy ones and then somehow equating that with sheet film quality.
So is there a simple solution to the nuclear skin tones mixed with good ones?
King Arhnold looks a bit jaundiced, but the red-faced guy looks like he is in need of the Heimlich Manuver
Steve