Bar Harbor Maine

zach30345zach30345 Registered Users Posts: 95 Big grins
edited November 20, 2009 in Landscapes
Alright so here is a short set of photos from Maine, i am somewhat a beginner so any advice and criticism is appreciated. Thanks

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3. Alright and this is the same picture but in black and white, im not sure what one I like better
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4. This last one was posted before in Streets and PJ but its part of this set.
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Comments

  • redleashredleash Registered Users Posts: 3,840 Major grins
    edited November 19, 2009
    The last is my favorite. I like the closeup of the boat with the people--it makes it different from other Acadia landscape shots. Very nicely done!

    Lauren
    "But ask the animals, and they will teach you." (Job 12:7)

    Lauren Blackwell
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  • kwalshkwalsh Registered Users Posts: 223 Major grins
    edited November 19, 2009
    OK, I'll offer some C&C since you asked, but up front for a "beginner" you are doing quiet well!

    1. I like the colors and feel and the boat ramp in the foreground works nicely. The problem is the houses are falling backwards! I think it would be better if you rotated counter-clockwise a bit. This would get the houses vertical and get a steeper more dynamic angle on the foreground ramp. Obviously you'll lose some edges in the recropping but you've got both sky and foreground to give away. You might even change the aspect ratio and clip off the shoreline on the left and the one house that is separated from the others by the tree - I don't see what these elements add and the general rule is if it doesn't add the it detracts! Rotate, tighter crop and see what you think.

    2 & 3. I'm not sure what to do with the vignette, but I want to change it somehow I think. Perhaps not as much feather and the mid-point a bit closer to the edge. But what do I know?

    4. Neat! I'll offer a criticism to something you have no real control over but can be aware of at least. Eyelines are critical - that is where people are looking. We cue immediately to anthropomorphic forms in images and then immediately look where they are looking. In this shot you've got four closely spaced people with two staring left and two staring right (essentially at each other) all in the center in a tight box. This arrangement is an eye trap - you just can't get your eye to leave this spot and explore the rest of the image - and the rest of the image is wide so it leaves a bit of a weird feeling.

    Anywho, nice shots and thanks for sharing!

    Ken
  • zach30345zach30345 Registered Users Posts: 95 Big grins
    edited November 19, 2009
    Revisions
    alright here are the revisions and to be honest i really struggled with the houses one, i dont know but now i feel that the houses are falling forward? im not sure though but the crop looks better now, and one random question when im cropping should i be keeping the ratio the same or not because i didn't in the houses one and i feel that i should of because now its a weird size. And if so how would i do that?

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  • kwalshkwalsh Registered Users Posts: 223 Major grins
    edited November 19, 2009
    alright here are the revisions and to be honest i really struggled with the houses one, i dont know but now i feel that the houses are falling forward? im not sure though but the crop looks better now, and one random question when im cropping should i be keeping the ratio the same or not because i didn't in the houses one and i feel that i should of because now its a weird size. And if so how would i do that?
    Personally I think you nailed the houses, they look great! Rotation and crop look much better to me. I guess the question is what does everyone else think?

    On the crop size actually things worked out nicely, it now has an almost perfect 4:5 aspect ratio which of course is a standard large format film aspect ratio and print size (8x10 prints). So no, I don't think it is a weird size at all, if Ansel Adams had visited Bar Harbor this is the aspect ratio his photos would have been.

    If you wanted to preserve the original 2:3 aspect ratio you'd need to lose some foreground or sky. If you wanted to remain with a "digital" aspect ratio you could get to 3:4 real easy.

    On the vignettes I'm sure it is really a matter of taste. I like your new edits but maybe you or others feel differently.

    Ken
  • zach30345zach30345 Registered Users Posts: 95 Big grins
    edited November 20, 2009
    alright thanks and i hope other people post so we can see what they think, and i guess your correct about the houses its not a weird size
  • GringriffGringriff Registered Users Posts: 340 Major grins
    edited November 20, 2009
    Regarding the repost.

    I like the rotated and cropped version much better. To me a main subject is the white house to the right and we see it larger and better now. I would really be nice if we could see the water's edge again on the left. maybe it could be better at high tide.

    For the anchored boat shot I like the color version better with the reduced vignette compared to original. I am not really a fan adding this effect and have been trying to find a good place to use it and just haven't really found a place for it yet in my own shots. I would really prefer seeing more of the sky and water on the edges instead of the darkness. I am not sure what the goal with it is but it is a little like I am in a boat and looking out through a port hole or looking through a spyglass.
    Andy
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  • zach30345zach30345 Registered Users Posts: 95 Big grins
    edited November 20, 2009
    alright thank you for the advice and yea i wish it was hide tide looking back on it now.
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