Using a Canon Rebel XT in IR only mode

PhotoArtistPhotoArtist Registered Users Posts: 8 Beginner grinner
edited August 23, 2005 in Cameras
Hello Andy Williams,

I saw your fantastic infrared images on the LDP
site. Great work. Ihave a Canon 20d which I use for
"straight" images and just purchased a Rebel XT which I
had LDP convert to IR only. When talking with Dan @LDP
he mentioned your name and said that you had a certain
workflowwith your images.

Now I haven't received my Rebel yet, but Dan was
saying something about the Blue and Green channels not
getting as much information as the Red channel. I was
wondering what your in camera workflow was ( how you
shoot an image, exposure etc.) and then what your post
camera or Photoshop workflow entails. Do you enhance
the B & G channels and how?

I would appreciate any information you can afford
me to lessen mylearning curve.


Thanks

James A. Crawford
"Crawf"

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Comments

  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited July 23, 2005
    thanks for joining wave.gif and asking your question here!

    my workflow is really simple:

    1) shoot in raw, usually with -1/3 or -2/3s e.c.

    2) open in adobe camera raw, select the black eyedropper and click on a neutral area (usually in the sky) this sets the wb perfectly, and nearly always nails the exposure right, too, but if i need to i adjust the exposure in acr.

    3) i don't mess with the channels, i tried it for a while but found that a simple channel mixer of 50/50/0 and tick the monochrome box, works great for a bw conversion.

    4) i'll apply any needed curves adjustment here for added contrast

    5) sometimes i'll apply a toning layer.

    that's it!

    22552515-L.jpg

    24004041-L.jpg
  • PhotoArtistPhotoArtist Registered Users Posts: 8 Beginner grinner
    edited July 23, 2005
    andy wrote:
    thanks for joining wave.gif and asking your question here!

    my workflow is really simple:

    1) shoot in raw, usually with -1/3 or -2/3s e.c.

    2) open in adobe camera raw, select the black eyedropper and click on a neutral area (usually in the sky) this sets the wb perfectly, and nearly always nails the exposure right, too, but if i need to i adjust the exposure in acr.

    3) i don't mess with the channels, i tried it for a while but found that a simple channel mixer of 50/50/0 and tick the monochrome box, works great for a bw conversion.

    4) i'll apply any needed curves adjustment here for added contrast

    5) sometimes i'll apply a toning layer.

    that's it!

    22552515-Ti.jpg

    24004041-Ti.jpg
    Thanks Andy,

    I'll give it a try. BTW those are great shots

    Crawf
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited July 23, 2005
    luminosity toningn
    forgot - here's' how i tone:


    ctrl-alt-~
    new fill layer (solid color) and choose the color you want
    chg layer blend to "color"
    ctrl-i to invert (try it either way)

    now use opacity, mask, either or both to fine tune
  • PhotoArtistPhotoArtist Registered Users Posts: 8 Beginner grinner
    edited July 24, 2005
    Smallest Apeture?
    Andy,

    Thanks again for your toning workflow. Another question: What is the smallest apeture you would use in shooting with the Rebel XT. I tried f22 and saw banding in the skies. Someone suggest f11. Love to hear your thoughts.

    Thanks
    Crawf
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited July 24, 2005
    Andy,

    Thanks again for your toning workflow. Another question: What is the smallest apeture you would use in shooting with the Rebel XT. I tried f22 and saw banding in the skies. Someone suggest f11. Love to hear your thoughts.

    Thanks
    Crawf

    for infrared? i routinely shoot at f/8 or f/11 with my 16-35L - plenty of dof and can still handhold at 1/500th or thereabouts :D banding at f/22? i'd like to see that - give us a 100% crop please, and the full downsized pic for reference - plus exif deal.gif
  • PhotoArtistPhotoArtist Registered Users Posts: 8 Beginner grinner
    edited July 24, 2005
    k, Andy,

    I hope this is what you were looking for. I am a newbie to these message boards, so bear with me.
    Lens 10-22mm @ 18mm, ISO100. shot at f22, 1/30 although same results with 1/40 as far as the bandingne_nau.gif
  • PhotoArtistPhotoArtist Registered Users Posts: 8 Beginner grinner
    edited July 24, 2005
    Banding
    Here is a section of the banding. Doesn't seem to show up as much here as on my 'puter
  • PhotoArtistPhotoArtist Registered Users Posts: 8 Beginner grinner
    edited July 24, 2005
    In Addition
    I should also mention that this is straight from the Raw image with nothing done. Also, yes there was a lot of dust on my sensor which I have since cleaned.ne_nau.gif
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited July 24, 2005
    k, Andy,

    I hope this is what you were looking for. I am a newbie to these message boards, so bear with me.
    Lens 10-22mm @ 18mm, ISO100. shot at f22, 1/30 although same results with 1/40 as far as the bandingne_nau.gif

    let's see a shot at f/8 or f/11 please?
  • PhotoArtistPhotoArtist Registered Users Posts: 8 Beginner grinner
    edited August 20, 2005
    Finally was able to do some shooting!!!!
    :): Hi Andy,
    Finally I was able to do some shooting. I did a little experimenting and find that for me, f8 is the optimum apeture to shoot for the Rebel XT infrared camera. No Banding in the sky and the sky is also very black. Here is an example of my experiment. I still have a way to go before I am completely happy with an infrared image. But with some pratice I will get there. I also need to find more shooting time and the right subject matter.

    Crawf
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited August 23, 2005
    :): Hi Andy,
    Finally I was able to do some shooting. I did a little experimenting and find that for me, f8 is the optimum apeture to shoot for the Rebel XT infrared camera. No Banding in the sky and the sky is also very black. Here is an example of my experiment. I still have a way to go before I am completely happy with an infrared image. But with some pratice I will get there. I also need to find more shooting time and the right subject matter.

    Crawf

    looks goot - nice and contrasty, love the black sky deal.gif
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