Feedback - Making Colors Pop
Numbers Guy
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I know the shot below is totally "tourist" as it's been taken thousands of times from every angle, but we were in San Francisco last week, and my wife wanted me to take some of the Seven Sisters.
I'm fairly new to Photoshop (used Elements until a couple months ago) and want to learn how to make the colors pop. I've heard that overcast days provide the best color, and this day was definitely that. However, I find that I'm blowing out the sky to do anything with the foreground, and my colors were looking drab. I read one tutorial, and it made a big difference in what I could do (1st below is my "after", and 2nd is my "normal" processing that I could manage before).
First, I'd appreciate any comments on what I could do to make this better (understanding it's cliche). Second, if you know of a good tutorial for a beginner to curves and really understanding levels, I would appreciate that as well. The right amount of sharpening is something else I struggle with.
Exposure is 1/125 at f/7.1 using a Canon 5D MKII with 24-105mm lens at 50mm on a tripod.
Thanks, and happy new year!
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I'm fairly new to Photoshop (used Elements until a couple months ago) and want to learn how to make the colors pop. I've heard that overcast days provide the best color, and this day was definitely that. However, I find that I'm blowing out the sky to do anything with the foreground, and my colors were looking drab. I read one tutorial, and it made a big difference in what I could do (1st below is my "after", and 2nd is my "normal" processing that I could manage before).
First, I'd appreciate any comments on what I could do to make this better (understanding it's cliche). Second, if you know of a good tutorial for a beginner to curves and really understanding levels, I would appreciate that as well. The right amount of sharpening is something else I struggle with.
Exposure is 1/125 at f/7.1 using a Canon 5D MKII with 24-105mm lens at 50mm on a tripod.
Thanks, and happy new year!
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Doug Vaughn
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Canon 5D MKII and more lenses than my wife thinks I can afford.
http://www.dougvaughn.com
Canon 5D MKII and more lenses than my wife thinks I can afford.
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I don't see that the sky is blown out in either photo. If that's the way the sky looked that day, that's what the picture should look like.
There are tricks to get the sky to be a deeper blue, but - in this case - I think it would detract. The houses are the photo.
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In many cases, more contrast is a good thing - however contrast does not have to go hand in hand with more saturation (although by default many editing methods increase both).
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I don't see much of a problem with the color in your original. If anything, the few yellow and magenta flowers look overstaturated in the original and nuclear in the reworked version. But they are small and few, so it probably doesn't matter much.
What I think would improve the shot is using shadow/highlight to open up the shadows of the trees and house details and bring out a little more texture in the sky.
And yeah, everyone has taken that shot, but so what? Yours is very good.
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Hi – Nice shot. I believe that you could achieve your goal if you desaturate the cityscape (not all the way, though, so you keep it within the real of realism) and, also, the sky, although not as much as the cityscape. You might also want to play around by adding a gradient mist to the cityscape/sky area and see how that looks. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
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Thank all of you for the comments & suggestions. My monitor is calibrated, although admittedly it was last done about 3 months ago. I suspect my eyes are more the problem than my monitor. I am mildly colorblind and sometimes don't see when I've "overdone" it unless it's way too far. I'm constantly asking my wife "what color is this?" or "do my colors still look real?" I no doubt picked the wrong hobby but can't help what I enjoy.
I'll try toning down the sky and city a bit to see if that helps. I used a gradient filter in Lightroom as the sky was completely blown out in the raw file. Maybe a little darker and extending it slightly lower would do the trick. Thanks again!
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I know this doesn't answer your question about how to tweak it yourself, but I thought I'd let you see what I'd do.
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By setting your INFO palette to read as Lab mode readings in the second right hand section - it is "easy" to learn a "by the numbers" approach to evaluating colour so that you can at least be in the ballpark of known "memory colours" or perhaps other colours if they can be visually inferred by context.
Colour deficiency can take different forms and severity, usually not affecting every colour hue:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_blindness
By using negative exposure values and or highlight recovery, one can gain 1-2 stops of blown highlight info in the raw converter, over and above the baseline exposure offered by the zero setting - which may be blown.
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PSD:
http://www.random-effects.com/psd/7sisters.psd
3 minute attempt using 2 curves adjustment layers and a vibrance adjustment layer with very inexact masks. You can load it and use the sliders on the adjustment layers to tailor to your own taste.