HS BB in the gym of ick!

donek

1. The lights on one side of the gym are green


2. and orange on the other side.


3. Strobing one end gets the WB ok on the players


4. Sometimes the backgrounds are a little mixed up.


5. One of the parents told me she thought it was a boring game.


6. I think I want more boring games.


Thanks for looking/commenting

Gringriff

Nice sharp images. You did very well controlling the different tints.

Andy

adbsgicom

Wow.
What was your strobing technique?

Erbeman

These are the best BB shots I've seen in awhile. Congrats to you.

Fogcity

Those are gorgeous shots. Would also love to hear your strobing technique on those. I've almost gotten up enough nerve to try it out at our local hs gym....

SUMGUY

I think you did a great job on the players. As for the background, I like it and I think it helps make the players pop a little more than normal BB shots I've seen.
well done.


cheers, Scott

donek

Gringriff wrote:

Nice sharp images. You did very well controlling the different tints.

Andy

Thanks Andy.

donek

adbsgicom wrote:

Wow.
What was your strobing technique?

I use 4 speedlights triggered with Cactus triggers. There are 2 on each side of the gym mounted side by side. One on each side is pointed at the wall behind the basket and the other is pointed at the ceiling even with the free shot line.

donek

Erbeman wrote:

These are the best BB shots I've seen in awhile. Congrats to you.

Thank you.

donek

Fogcity wrote:

Those are gorgeous shots. Would also love to hear your strobing technique on those. I've almost gotten up enough nerve to try it out at our local hs gym....

See my response above. Just show up about 20 minutes before the game starts and talk with the local coach or AD. Make sure they are aware of what you are doing and you'll stop or repoint if there are complaints. The only complaints I've ever had are from spectators or cheer leaders getting hit in the eyes. Keep them as high as possible and consider the spectators. The athletes are unlikely to even notice the strobes.

donek

SUMGUY wrote:

I think you did a great job on the players. As for the background, I like it and I think it helps make the players pop a little more than normal BB shots I've seen.
well done.


cheers, Scott

Thank you Scott.

sepplett

Nicely done, I love the emotion or moment caught in the faces.

Dbl

donek wrote:

See my response above. Just show up about 20 minutes before the game starts and talk with the local coach or AD. Make sure they are aware of what you are doing and you'll stop or repoint if there are complaints. The only complaints I've ever had are from spectators or cheer leaders getting hit in the eyes. Keep them as high as possible and consider the spectators. The athletes are unlikely to even notice the strobes.

And make sure you bring proof that you carry liability insurance as well. I would hope folks are not even thinking of this without insurance. Very nice shots.

adbsgicom

Dbl wrote:

And make sure you bring proof that you carry liability insurance as well. I would hope folks are not even thinking of this without insurance. Very nice shots.

I have to ask. Is this for something beyond what happens if your light stand falls on someone? I have personal liability insurance (I don't have a company, just me).

time2smile

fantastic

donek

sepplett wrote:

Nicely done, I love the emotion or moment caught in the faces.

Thanks. I shoot for a small town paper. The primary criteria is a recognizable face. Personally I'll throw it away if I can't see the face and ball.

donek

adbsgicom wrote:

I have to ask. Is this for something beyond what happens if your light stand falls on someone? I have personal liability insurance (I don't have a company, just me).

Perhaps Dbl can chime in a justify his reasoning here. I'd be curious. I never use stands in a gym as I'm afraid my equipment will get knocked over. I use super clamps for attaching everything very securely. Being on the clock for the paper when I shoot, I'm covered. I may begin doing some younger tournament stuff in the near future. I already have insurance lined up through my agent. I just have to write the check.

donek

time2smile wrote:

fantastic

Thank you Ted.

Dbl

donek wrote:

Perhaps Dbl can chime in a justify his reasoning here. I'd be curious. I never use stands in a gym as I'm afraid my equipment will get knocked over. I use super clamps for attaching everything very securely. Being on the clock for the paper when I shoot, I'm covered. I may begin doing some younger tournament stuff in the near future. I already have insurance lined up through my agent. I just have to write the check.

Safety should be the number one priority if you shoot from the floor and especially with lights. Clamps...only clamps? Do you safety cable (rated cable and attach points) the lights and the clamps? You are asking for trouble if you think a clamp won't fail, they do and I've had it happen. Anything mounted should be safety cabled as well. An errant ball hits one of the lights clamped, breaks either the clamp or the light itself scattering pieces on the floor or flying debris injuring a player? A flash over heats and blows a bulb and lens scattering debris. If you shoot actual strobes are your lights covered to prevent bulb breakage? What about the triggers for your lights are they cabled? What if one of them gets hit and knocked loose. If it is even remotely possible to happen I can assure you it has. What about what you are mounting the lights on?

Is it possible for a spectator to get close to a clamped light? Insurance is a must for anyone shooting from the floor whether you have lights or not. Most schools I am used to dealing with require proof of insurance. If a ref running backwards trips and lands on me and my camera and gets hurt...or a player, or a spectator running by. Schools and venues do not want to open themselves up to liability issues, nor do I. Are you really covered shooting as a stringer for your paper? Who becomes liable? Make sure you have adequate answers to those questions.

Just setting up lights and using clamps is not a safe situation. My guess is any insurance you or the paper has will not be covering an incident or accident with out the necessary safe industry standard practices being followed. Having liability through your personal policy as someone mentioned in all likely hood is not the best solution. One reason for setting up a separate photography business (such as an LLC) is to remove liability from your personal possessions. If you are selling photos these are things you should be doing to protect yourself and family. If you are shooting from the floor and using lights make darn sure you have permission from the facility and you being safe! Is the sale of a 4x6 print worth losing everything you own or causing injury to a player or participant?

time2smile

Unfortunately Dan is correct.

I think its such a shame what we have become, dont get me wrong, I think safety is extremely important, but to worry about liability, in the old days if someone bumped into your equipment they would be worried about paying you to replace or repair, now they get their lawyer and complain about it being in their way and how are you going to compensate them.