Making Pots

Tina Manley

I'm still scanning film. This is from 2002. Olivia Rios Vasquez is making clay pots in the village of El Limon in the mountains of Honduras.



Comments and criticism greatly appreciated. I have more pot-making photos to scan.

Tina

Tina Manley

Tina Manley wrote:

I'm still scanning film. This is from 2002. Olivia Rios Vasquez is making clay pots in the village of El Limon in the mountains of Honduras.



Comments and criticism greatly appreciated. I have more pot-making photos to scan.

Tina

PS> I can't get this to show up in the preview. Here is the photo: http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/121740904

What am I doing wrong that it's not showing up?

rutt

Don't know why it doesn't show up. Must be something about the pbase source. Does it allow inline links?

As to the image, very nice. There seems to be some kind of odd noise or texture, though. Is this on purpose?

Richard

Tina Manley wrote:

What am I doing wrong that it's not showing up?

Hi Tina,

Your link was to the whole web page in your gallery, not to the image. I changed it for you.

Wonderful light, composition and expression.

rutt

Ah, now I see it. I also didn't see it when I tried to repost. Perhaps somethign changed at pbase?

Tina Manley

rutt wrote:

Don't know why it doesn't show up. Must be something about the pbase source. Does it allow inline links?

As to the image, very nice. There seems to be some kind of odd noise or texture, though. Is this on purpose?

No, it's just TMAX 400. I used LR's sharpen for web set on low. I don't usually sharpen at all. Maybe that's it?

Tina

Tina Manley

Richard wrote:

Hi Tina,

Your link was to the whole web page in your gallery, not to the image. I changed it for you.

Wonderful light, composition and expression.

Thanks, Richard! I tried several times and never could get it to show up!

Tina

rutt

Tina Manley wrote:

Thanks, Richard! I tried several times and never could get it to show up!

Tina

How does it look compared to prints from film?

Tina Manley

rutt wrote:

How does it look compared to prints from film?

It's hard for me to compare web photos to prints. Web photos never look as good but they are small jpegs and I print from very large tiffs using Piezography inks. The tiffs on my computer screen look over-sharpened before I print them, but I use PhotoKit's output sharpeners for prints and they always look right in print, not over-sharpened. Does that make sense?

Tina

Tina Manley

rutt wrote:

How does it look compared to prints from film?

Here is one with the same film, etc., but sharpened using PhotoKit's output sharpener and faded 70%:


Maria Suyapa Making a Straw Mat

Better or not?

Tina

That one showed up in the preview but not the post!! I'm not doing anything different so I don't know why they are not showing up for me.

http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/121758051

DavidTO

Tina Manley wrote:

That one showed up in the preview but not the post!! I'm not doing anything different so I don't know why they are not showing up for me.

http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/121758051

Your link needs to end in .jpg. Check the link in my signature for more on how to post a picture.

http://i.pbase.com/g3/04/318004/2/121758051.RDShWC3x.jpg

Richard

Tina Manley wrote:

That one showed up in the preview but not the post!! I'm not doing anything different so I don't know why they are not showing up for me.

http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/121758051

Tina,

When you are viewing the pics in your gallery, right click on the image and select Copy Image Location, then paste that into the image popup box on Dgrin.

Tina Manley

Richard wrote:

Tina,

When you are viewing the pics in your gallery, right click on the image and select Copy Image Location, then paste that into the image popup box on Dgrin.

I have Copy Image and Copy Image URL. I've tried both. I used to just copy the URL and add .jpeg and it worked fine, but it's not now.

Tina

Tina Manley

DavidTO wrote:

Your link needs to end in .jpg. Check the link in my signature for more on how to post a picture.

http://i.pbase.com/g3/04/318004/2/121758051.RDShWC3x.jpg

That shows a broken link, too. Maybe something is wrong.

Tina

DavidTO

Tina Manley wrote:

That shows a broken link, too. Maybe something is wrong.

Tina

You're right.

Part of the problem is you go to the page, and then the image is in your cache, so that when you go to post it on dgrin, your browser is showing it from the cache, not the link, so it appears to be OK. This is what happened to me. I thought I had fixed your link, but I fell in the very same trap, viewing the image from my cache.

Seefutlung

Very nice Tina ... while it seems grainy ... that's what happens with higher ASA film ... was the ASA pushed? Regardless of the grain ... nice image with nice lighting.

Gary

Tina Manley

Seefutlung wrote:

Very nice Tina ... while it seems grainy ... that's what happens with higher ASA film ... was the ASA pushed? Regardless of the grain ... nice image with nice lighting.

Gary

Thanks, Gary. Yes, it was pushed to 800. I almost always shot TMax 400 at 800 unless I was using TMax 3200 (Now that's grainy!)

Tina

Richard

Tina Manley wrote:

I have Copy Image and Copy Image URL. I've tried both. I used to just copy the URL and add .jpeg and it worked fine, but it's not now.

Tina

You want Copy Image Location/Address. On Windows, you right-click on the image itself. On a Mac Ctl-Click does the same thing. On a Mac, FF shows Copy Image Location as a choice, while Safari shows Copy Image Address.

Tina Manley

Richard wrote:

You want Copy Image Location/Address. On Windows, you right-click on the image itself. On a Mac Ctl-Click does the same thing. On a Mac, FF shows Copy Image Location as a choice, while Safari shows Copy Image Address.

I'm using Google Chrome. Maybe that's the difference. On PC with a right click, I get Save Image As, Copy Image, Copy Image URL and Open Image in New Tab. I assumed the correct one was Copy Image URL but that didn't work. I'll try again.

Again - It shows up in the Preview just fine but when I hit Save the actual post only shows a broken link.

Tina

Richard

Tina Manley wrote:

I'm using Google Chrome. Maybe that's the difference. On PC with a right click, I get Save Image As, Copy Image, Copy Image URL and Open Image in New Tab. I assumed the correct one was Copy Image URL but that didn't work. I'll try again.

Again - It shows up in the Preview just fine but when I hit Save the actual post only shows a broken link.

Tina

Tina,

I tried it in Chrome (on WinXP Pro) and got exactly the same thing you described. FireFox had no problem but Chrome didn't work. I'm afraid I have no idea what the problem is. Any Chrome experts out there?

Edit: Curiouser and curiouser--I was able to use Chrome to link to my SmugMug images. It looks like there's some weird thing happening when using Chrome and Pbase hosted images. Hmmm.....

michswiss

I'm using Safari 4.0.4 on OSX 10.6.2 and get the broken links as well. But I'm able to view the image when I right click on it and open the image in a separate window.

rutt

Tina Manley wrote:

It's hard for me to compare web photos to prints. Web photos never look as good but they are small jpegs and I print from very large tiffs using Piezography inks. The tiffs on my computer screen look over-sharpened before I print them, but I use PhotoKit's output sharpeners for prints and they always look right in print, not over-sharpened. Does that make sense?

Tina

Myth #1 tiff vs jpeg quality You'd have to be using very low resolution and very low quality jpegs for your jpegs and tiffs to look different on your monitor. And I have surprised many a printer by getting high quality results for full resolution full quality jpegs in print. In fact, I believe that the difference would be impossible to see in print almost all the time. Where you can get into trouble with jpegs vs tiffs is with multiple edits. After a few different times opening/saving jpegs, they will show artifacts not present in the originals. But these have their own look and it isn't like the grain in the first image. Your web photos and prints won't look the same because the prints are on paper and the web photos are on a monitor. You have to compare apples to apples -- prints to prints, monitor images to monitor images.

Myth #2 input vs output sharpening I'll probably get in trouble for this one, but I really don't believe in any input sharpening. In my experience it either makes no visible difference or gets exaggerated by subsequent post processing steps and looks bad. I could believe that input sharpening followed by some post processing followed by some sort of output sharpening is exaggerating the grain in these pictures. Very grainy and/or noisy pictures are tricky at best to sharpen and sharpening twice is even trickier in spite of the current fad for doing so.

What do they look like straight off the scanner?

Richard

michswiss wrote:

I'm using Safari 4.0.4 on OSX 10.6.2 and get the broken links as well. But I'm able to view the image when I right click on it and open the image in a separate window.

Hmm...are you saying that links you create in Safari don't work? From what I could see, what matters is which browser creates the links, not which browser you view it in. I was able to create links in Safari from Tina's Pbase gallery.

DavidTO

Richard wrote:

Hmm...are you saying that links you create in Safari don't work? From what I could see, what matters is which browser creates the links, not which browser you view it in. I was able to create links in Safari from Tina's Pbase gallery.

I'm using Safari and apparently wasn't able to make a good link.

I doubt it's the links though, something else must be going on.

adbsgicom

DavidTO wrote:

I'm using Safari and apparently wasn't able to make a good link.

I doubt it's the links though, something else must be going on.

Since shifting to Safari from IE, I had to start using the Share->Get a Link option instead of asking for a link with the right mouse menu. YMMV