Tiff or Raw?

Westernart1Westernart1 Registered Users Posts: 6 Beginner grinner
edited February 12, 2010 in Technique
Should I shoot in tiff or in raw format? I have a D300 and a D2H.

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  • Nikonic1Nikonic1 Registered Users Posts: 684 Major grins
    edited February 9, 2010
    Raw.
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  • rookieshooterrookieshooter Registered Users Posts: 539 Major grins
    edited February 9, 2010
    How much for the raw files?
  • StefStef Registered Users Posts: 225 Major grins
    edited February 9, 2010
    rookieshooter wrote:
    How much for the raw files?

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  • JeffCanonJeffCanon Registered Users Posts: 97 Big grins
    edited February 10, 2010
    if you get it right from the start in camera you could use jpg
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  • Kyle DKyle D Registered Users Posts: 302 Major grins
    edited February 10, 2010
    I prefer to shoot raw for everything. That way if sometime down the road I want to reprocess the image or if newer raw processing software comes out with better options/features and it produces better output then I can reprocess my raw shots. You can't do that with jpg and I've paid for that. When I first bought my D50, all I shot was jpg and now I regret it because there are a few of those early shots I wish I could reprocess in Capture NX2 but alas I can't. I started shooting raw about 2-3 months after I got my D50 and haven't shot a single jpg since and I'm going on almost 3 years now of shooting raw and close to 20 000 images.
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  • time2smiletime2smile Registered Users Posts: 835 Major grins
    edited February 10, 2010
    If ita a keeper shot
    shoot in RAW edit in PS
    save as TIFF keeps all data in file.

    is it cheaper if I buy both raw and tiff, and do you combine shipping,
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  • zoomerzoomer Registered Users Posts: 3,688 Major grins
    edited February 10, 2010
    Raw not Tiff.
    Jpeg not Raw.

    If you have lightroom you can do everything to the jpeg you can do to the raw. Only difference is the ability to save hightlights on more blown out pictures in raw than you can in jpeg. Jpegs you can save the blown outs a little but not much.

    Unless you are a pro who blows out a lot of shots like a wedding photographer who needs to preserve detail in a white dress, there is no reason to shoot Raw or Tiff.
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  • Westernart1Westernart1 Registered Users Posts: 6 Beginner grinner
    edited February 10, 2010
    zoomer wrote:
    Raw not Tiff.
    Jpeg not Raw.

    If you have lightroom you can do everything to the jpeg you can do to the raw. Only difference is the ability to save hightlights on more blown out pictures in raw than you can in jpeg. Jpegs you can save the blown outs a little but not much.

    Unless you are a pro who blows out a lot of shots like a wedding photographer who needs to preserve detail in a white dress, there is no reason to shoot Raw or Tiff.


    Thanks for everyones help and I do have lightroom and love it. I was thinking that it might help the 4mg D2H.
  • Art ScottArt Scott Registered Users Posts: 8,959 Major grins
    edited February 10, 2010
    every time you open a JPG and resave it it degrades that file......this does not happen to raw and tiffs.........Raw is almost the equivalent to film transparencies or negatives...........
    Shoot raw and process in lightroom............lightroom is a fantastic digital asset management tool also................

    If the mis-nomer of: if you get it right in camera then just shoot jpg were actually 100% correct.....then all of the PROs shooting film would have / would be shooting nothing but Polaroids..........................
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  • Westernart1Westernart1 Registered Users Posts: 6 Beginner grinner
    edited February 11, 2010
    Art Scott wrote:
    every time you open a JPG and resave it it degrades that file......this does not happen to raw and tiffs.........Raw is almost the equivalent to film transparencies or negatives...........
    Shoot raw and process in lightroom............lightroom is a fantastic digital asset management tool also................

    If the mis-nomer of: if you get it right in camera then just shoot jpg were actually 100% correct.....then all of the PROs shooting film would have / would be shooting nothing but Polaroids..........................



    Good info. Thanks This would be a good time for a good old camera test. Raw vs .jpg
  • Wil DavisWil Davis Registered Users Posts: 1,692 Major grins
    edited February 11, 2010
    Art Scott wrote:
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    If the mis-nomer of: if you get it right in camera then just shoot jpg were actually 100% correct.....then all of the PROs shooting film would have / would be shooting nothing but Polaroids..........................

    Um, I don't quite understand your last sentence…

    I thought that back in the film days, the reason that pros used Polaroid™ was to check exposure/lighting-balance/composition etc, much in the same way as folk now "chimp" and use histograms; so, if they were getting it right in the camera, then surely they wouldn't have needed to use Polaroid™…

    …er, I think I need more coffee!!

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  • RhuarcRhuarc Registered Users Posts: 1,464 Major grins
    edited February 12, 2010
    Wil Davis wrote:
    Um, I don't quite understand your last sentence…

    I thought that back in the film days, the reason that pros used Polaroid™ was to check exposure/lighting-balance/composition etc, much in the same way as folk now "chimp" and use histograms; so, if they were getting it right in the camera, then surely they wouldn't have needed to use Polaroid™…

    …er, I think I need more coffee!!

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    I think he meant that the statement that the statement "if you get it right in camera you can shoot jpg" were true, it would be the same as if film shooters no longer needed a negative as long as they got it right in the camera. If they get it right in camera then all they need is the developed print, right? aka...Polaroid... :D

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  • colourboxcolourbox Registered Users Posts: 2,095 Major grins
    edited February 12, 2010
    Art Scott wrote:
    If the mis-nomer of: if you get it right in camera then just shoot jpg were actually 100% correct.....then all of the PROs shooting film would have / would be shooting nothing but Polaroids

    The pros would have all shot Polaroids if their downstream clients could work with them. But Polaroids did not have the color, sharpness, resolution that were needed for high-end production. That's the only reason pros didn't shoot Polaroids for final shots (other than maybe cost). Their clients needed precise, high-resolution transparency film that would hold up to magazine and ad production, manipulation as part of graphic design, and extreme enlargement.

    Besides, film photographers still had to get it right in camera, you did not want to screw up the film. It was too costly to fix big mistakes later...it was like fixing a JPEG.

    I think Raw is better, but I also think it's true that if you don't need to make any adjustments after the shoot, ever, and that includes quality reductions incurred from combining the image with others in designs or advanced processing like HDR, then hey, why not shoot JPEG.

    The problem with the "get it right in camera" approach is that only certain photographers can do that. The rest have to deal with changing outdoor lighting conditions and other factors that are part of the nature of their work and cannot be easily locked down in the camera and must be addressed in post. Making raw the better choice for them.
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