Excuse Me, Times a Wastein

bfjrbfjr Registered Users Posts: 10,980 Major grins
edited February 16, 2010 in Street and Documentary

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  • ruttrutt Registered Users Posts: 6,511 Major grins
    edited February 11, 2010
    Not so much. If I could see all these elements and the impatience on his face, well then you wouldn't need the title and you might have something.
    If not now, when?
  • bfjrbfjr Registered Users Posts: 10,980 Major grins
    edited February 12, 2010
    rutt wrote:
    Not so much. If I could see all these elements and the impatience on his face, well then you wouldn't need the title and you might have something.

    Again I guess I must of failed in expressing the point of this image.
    Let me expounded :
    This image is about the "Viewer" and how does it make you feel when kept waiting.

    The man in the Foreground is you (that's what I hoped the viewer would realize).
    See the clock on the wall, see the cashier on the phone, see your time being wasted?

    For me it was 14:20 and I have 10 minutes to get 15 minutes down the road to work !
  • lizzard_nyclizzard_nyc Registered Users Posts: 4,056 Major grins
    edited February 12, 2010
    ok--before I read anything further on the comments, I took a look at this photo for a bit.
    I have to say it works for me only because I immediately got annoyed that she was on the phone. I looked at the clock over her head and practically heard ticking. Her body language irritates the hell out of me, she's slightly turned away from the customer and she seems to have somewhat of a smile on her face (I'm thinking personal call here).

    So yes for me it works--it makes me want to club her over the head! Im just sayin.
    Liz A.
    _________
  • ruttrutt Registered Users Posts: 6,511 Major grins
    edited February 12, 2010
    I did get this. I've been there, waiting while someone bought lottery tickets and then bough more lottery tickets... It's like waiting in line behind someone using a slot machine.

    But the shot didn't work for me.
    If not now, when?
  • bfjrbfjr Registered Users Posts: 10,980 Major grins
    edited February 12, 2010
    ok--before I read anything further on the comments, I took a look at this photo for a bit.
    I have to say it works for me only because I immediately got annoyed that she was on the phone. I looked at the clock over her head and practically heard ticking. Her body language irritates the hell out of me, she's slightly turned away from the customer and she seems to have somewhat of a smile on her face (I'm thinking personal call here).

    So yes for me it works--it makes me want to club her over the head! Im just sayin.

    Thanks Liz for both your comment and bravery!! rolleyes1.gifrolleyes1.gif
  • bfjrbfjr Registered Users Posts: 10,980 Major grins
    edited February 13, 2010
    rutt wrote:
    I did get this. I've been there, waiting while someone bought lottery tickets and then bough more lottery tickets... It's like waiting in line behind someone using a slot machine.

    But the shot didn't work for me.


    Ok so you got it but the shot didn't work, say what ?? headscratch.gifrolleyes1.gif
  • rainbowrainbow Registered Users Posts: 2,765 Major grins
    edited February 14, 2010
    bfjr wrote:
    Again I guess I must of failed in expressing the point of this image.
    Let me expounded :
    This image is about the "Viewer" and how does it make you feel when kept waiting.

    The man in the Foreground is you (that's what I hoped the viewer would realize).
    See the clock on the wall, see the cashier on the phone, see your time being wasted?

    For me it was 14:20 and I have 10 minutes to get 15 minutes down the road to work !

    I like the image and thought it was well done. My take is I am not the man in the foreground. I am you behind the camera, thus I see the man in front of me waiting. And being second in line increases my impatience.
  • ruttrutt Registered Users Posts: 6,511 Major grins
    edited February 14, 2010
    bfjr wrote:
    Ok so you got it but the shot didn't work, say what ?? headscratch.gifrolleyes1.gif

    I've looked at this shot a few more times, each time trying to see whether I can see it differently, can feel differently about it, and then when that didn't happen explain why exactly it doesn't work for me. Usually I can do this, but I'm having a hard time with this image. But I'll try.

    Nobody knows the irritation of impatience in this situation better than I. It drives me completely crazy to be in a line that isn't moving, especially when the reason seems stupid. But looking at this picture, I don't feel even a shadow of that emotion. Why? All the elements are there to tell the story. You'd think they would combine and boom! Alchemy would work and gold would be produced.

    But instead it's more of a left brain thing. I read the title, so I know what to look for. I tally up the elements, clock, sales person on the phone, person in line in front of the camera. They fit into place. And my left brain says, "ah impatience, I get it."

    Maybe it's a question of composition, which isn't really that powerful here. Or maybe I need to see the impatience on someone's face. Or maybe the line needs to be longer to make the person on the phone seem even more irresponsible and indifferent. Sometimes slow impact works but in this case I think in this case the impact of the shot needs to be more immediate to communicate an emotion which really isn't very subtle.

    Oh, and to be fair, I'm holding this to a fairly high standard. To say it doesn't work, means that I didn't hear myself say "yes" or "wow" or "nice" to myself while I looked at it. If I were editing a book, I wouldn't pick it. I don't mean that it's out of focus or incompetent (it isn't.) Nobody rings this bell consistently, at least not until quite a bit of editing and letting the images stand (or not) the test of time. Certainly a lot of my images that I'm originally taken with don't work for anyone else and don't stand the test of time. (Certainly some of my projects which seem like great ideas when in progress, seem less so after input from others.) So please don't take this badly.

    I hope this is a more helpful critique.
    If not now, when?
  • bfjrbfjr Registered Users Posts: 10,980 Major grins
    edited February 14, 2010
    rainbow wrote:
    I like the image and thought it was well done. My take is I am not the man in the foreground. I am you behind the camera, thus I see the man in front of me waiting. And being second in line increases my impatience.

    Your take is a good one, thanks
  • bfjrbfjr Registered Users Posts: 10,980 Major grins
    edited February 16, 2010
    rutt wrote:
    I've looked at this shot a few more times, each time trying to see whether I can see it differently, can feel differently about it, and then when that didn't happen explain why exactly it doesn't work for me. Usually I can do this, but I'm having a hard time with this image. But I'll try.

    Nobody knows the irritation of impatience in this situation better than I. It drives me completely crazy to be in a line that isn't moving, especially when the reason seems stupid. But looking at this picture, I don't feel even a shadow of that emotion. Why? All the elements are there to tell the story. You'd think they would combine and boom! Alchemy would work and gold would be produced.

    But instead it's more of a left brain thing. I read the title, so I know what to look for. I tally up the elements, clock, sales person on the phone, person in line in front of the camera. They fit into place. And my left brain says, "ah impatience, I get it."

    Maybe it's a question of composition, which isn't really that powerful here. Or maybe I need to see the impatience on someone's face. Or maybe the line needs to be longer to make the person on the phone seem even more irresponsible and indifferent. Sometimes slow impact works but in this case I think in this case the impact of the shot needs to be more immediate to communicate an emotion which really isn't very subtle.

    Oh, and to be fair, I'm holding this to a fairly high standard. To say it doesn't work, means that I didn't hear myself say "yes" or "wow" or "nice" to myself while I looked at it. If I were editing a book, I wouldn't pick it. I don't mean that it's out of focus or incompetent (it isn't.) Nobody rings this bell consistently, at least not until quite a bit of editing and letting the images stand (or not) the test of time. Certainly a lot of my images that I'm originally taken with don't work for anyone else and don't stand the test of time. (Certainly some of my projects which seem like great ideas when in progress, seem less so after input from others.) So please don't take this badly.

    I hope this is a more helpful critique.

    It is and Thank You for taking the time.
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