Unable to Arrange photos in "collected" galleries

Traces of TexasTraces of Texas Registered Users Posts: 77 Big grins
edited March 5, 2011 in SmugMug Support
Hello,

I have one main gallery that contains all of my photos.

"Collecting" photos from that gallery, I made quite a few sub-galleries of like-themed photos.

However, when I go to those subgalleries and try to arrange them, I got a note saying "Sorry, that gallery contains no photos that can be arranged."


If you create a new gallery and then fill it with photographs that you've collected from another gallery, is it not possible to then go and arrange them in the gallery that you created?

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  • Ann McRaeAnn McRae Registered Users Posts: 4,584 Major grins
    edited March 19, 2010
    Hi

    Collections can be sorted with the gallery sort function, found in the gallery settings. You can sort by file name, caption, date taken, etc. Collected photos cannot be arranged, however.

    ann
    Hello,

    I have one main gallery that contains all of my photos.

    "Collecting" photos from that gallery, I made quite a few sub-galleries of like-themed photos.

    However, when I go to those subgalleries and try to arrange them, I got a note saying "Sorry, that gallery contains no photos that can be arranged."


    If you create a new gallery and then fill it with photographs that you've collected from another gallery, is it not possible to then go and arrange them in the gallery that you created?
  • Traces of TexasTraces of Texas Registered Users Posts: 77 Big grins
    edited March 19, 2010
    Ann McRae wrote:
    Hi

    Collections can be sorted with the gallery sort function, found in the gallery settings. You can sort by file name, caption, date taken, etc. Collected photos cannot be arranged, however.

    ann



    The "Sort" function doesn't seem to work on any of my collected galleries. I get the same message: This gallery contains no photos that can be arranged (even though I've selected "sort.")

    Also, are there any plans to make it so that we can arrange collected photographs in their individual galleries?

    Is there any way to contol the order in which photos in collected galleries are displayed?
  • BetzBetz Registered Users Posts: 103 Major grins
    edited March 19, 2010
    Collected photos are virtual copies and therefore can't be arranged/sorted. You can only arrange/sort actual image files.
  • Ann McRaeAnn McRae Registered Users Posts: 4,584 Major grins
    edited March 19, 2010
    You need to be using the sort tool in the gallery settings, rather than the sort/arrange tool in the gallery tools menu. The Auto sort function does work for collections.

    ann

    The "Sort" function doesn't seem to work on any of my collected galleries. I get the same message: This gallery contains no photos that can be arranged (even though I've selected "sort.")

    Also, are there any plans to make it so that we can arrange collected photographs in their individual galleries?

    Is there any way to contol the order in which photos in collected galleries are displayed?
  • BetzBetz Registered Users Posts: 103 Major grins
    edited March 21, 2010
    Ann McRae wrote:
    You need to be using the sort tool in the gallery settings, rather than the sort/arrange tool in the gallery tools menu. The Auto sort function does work for collections.

    ann

    This is great to know if I want to sort by date/time modified etc. Thanks for that but for galleries used for portfolios I tend to mix up the photos so that it's not a stream of one event then the next.. if that makes sense. In this instance being able to "drag" the collected" images would rock. Not sure if that's a possibility for the coding heroes or not.
  • jpcjpc Registered Users Posts: 840 Major grins
    edited March 28, 2010
    Betz is right. This really needs to get fixed. I have a gallery of "favorites" that is comprised entirely of collected photos, as it should be. I used to have to make actual copies of each photo. It's certainly much faster to "collect" the photos, but if I'm not able to move the thumbs around within the gallery, then that's just stupid. They're thumbnails, and we should have the ability to arrange them however we like. Now I have to go back to making copies to get back this functionality?

    "Auto sort" is not enough. Please tell me there are plans to fix this.
  • unklhughunklhugh Registered Users Posts: 1 Beginner grinner
    edited March 29, 2010
    Need arrange tool for collected images
    jpc wrote:
    Betz is right. This really needs to get fixed. I have a gallery of "favorites" that is comprised entirely of collected photos, as it should be. I used to have to make actual copies of each photo. It's certainly much faster to "collect" the photos, but if I'm not able to move the thumbs around within the gallery, then that's just stupid. They're thumbnails, and we should have the ability to arrange them however we like. Now I have to go back to making copies to get back this functionality?

    "Auto sort" is not enough. Please tell me there are plans to fix this.

    I just joined this forum to make this request; I am glad the thread is going. I would really like to use the arrange tool to re-order the images. I am using a gallery of collected images to direct people to the complete gallery.
  • raebrownraebrown Registered Users Posts: 273 Major grins
    edited March 29, 2010
    I'm also waiting for this to be updated. Soon as I can 'Arrange' collected photos I can start using them and dump the duplicates.
    Rae
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  • colindivercolindiver Registered Users Posts: 13 Big grins
    edited April 7, 2010
    I upgraded to Pro recently and have spent a lot of time customizing my site, a lot still to do, but this feature would take me to the next level. wings.gif
    Thanks to all the Smugmug Pros and enthusiasts for all the features and tips on customizing in Help and Dgrin which I have been using extensively recently, you are a great community. clap.gif
  • smilenjsmilenj Registered Users Posts: 57 Big grins
    edited April 29, 2010
    Arrrg - this is crazy
    Can't believe this is an actual problem. I want to use a collection to show my best work and have it displayed on my website. How can I do that if I have no control over the order?
    Joey Chandler
    San Francisco Portrait and Wedding Photographer
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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited April 29, 2010
    smilenj wrote:
    Can't believe this is an actual problem. I want to use a collection to show my best work and have it displayed on my website. How can I do that if I have no control over the order?
    Hang in there because we're working on this as we speak thumb.gif Hopefully not too much longer.
  • Digital101Digital101 Registered Users Posts: 9 Beginner grinner
    edited May 22, 2010
    Andy wrote: »
    Hang in there because we're working on this as we speak thumb.gif Hopefully not too much longer.

    Hi guys and gals - anyone heard any new updates on this?

    I have vacation pics in my unique directories by topic and have "collected" them into an unlisted gallery for my "vacation pics". Since i can't sort them, they are all out of order - kind of wanted to organize them before sending the link to people :) thanks for any info !!! Dave
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited May 22, 2010
    Digital101 wrote: »
    Hi guys and gals - anyone heard any new updates on this?

    I have vacation pics in my unique directories by topic and have "collected" them into an unlisted gallery for my "vacation pics". Since i can't sort them, they are all out of order - kind of wanted to organize them before sending the link to people :) thanks for any info !!! Dave
    We will post when the feature is complete. There's A LOT to it and we appreciate your patience.
  • krodholmkrodholm Registered Users Posts: 2 Beginner grinner
    edited August 23, 2010
    When will we get virtual sorting?
    Andy wrote: »
    We will post when the feature is complete. There's A LOT to it and we appreciate your patience.

    I was happy to see that SmugMug had added a method for being able to use one photo in multiple galleries. I have (had) two important uses for this feature.
    1) To be able to display selected "Favorite" photos from other galleries in a prominent "Favorites" Gallery.
    2) To allow me to dump photos in a date ordered hidden gallery (examp "2010") and then parse them out to visible galleries for display.

    Both items eliminate the need (and confusion) of duplicate photos on the site.

    To not be able to arrange photos makes the feature unusable for either purpose.

    I guess it begs the question of what it could be used for?
  • jfriendjfriend Registered Users Posts: 8,097 Major grins
    edited August 23, 2010
    krodholm wrote: »
    I guess it begs the question of what it could be used for?
    It works when you can live with an auto sort (date, filename, etc...). As soon as the auto-sort isn't what you want, I'm back to uploading dups.
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  • krodholmkrodholm Registered Users Posts: 2 Beginner grinner
    edited August 23, 2010
    Manual Sort
    jfriend wrote: »
    It works when you can live with an auto sort (date, filename, etc...). As soon as the auto-sort isn't what you want, I'm back to uploading dups.

    Most of my galleries do not lend themselves to a chronological sort (the same as file name for me). For example, I am trying to compile a series of photos describing my hike of the Thames Path. I want to put the photos in order from the Barrier to the Source not in the order that I completed the various legs (over two different years).

    My need to control the order to present my story is present in most of my galleries.

    In my Favorites gallery I want to control the order to give emphasis to particular photos.

    I truly can't imagine many cases when the order that I took the pictures should control their placement in a gallery.

    As you, I will have to rely on dupes to accomplish my goal. Not a big deal but annoying given the present state of web development.
  • R.LeonardoR.Leonardo Registered Users Posts: 188 Major grins
    edited September 2, 2010
    Ann McRae wrote: »
    You need to be using the sort tool in the gallery settings, rather than the sort/arrange tool in the gallery tools menu. The Auto sort function does work for collections.

    ann

    Thank you!
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  • NicciNicci Registered Users Posts: 436 Major grins
    edited November 12, 2010
    Not able to arrange photos in a collected gallery??
    Is that the way it is supposed to be?

    I would like to arrange the viewing order in a gallery that consists of collected photos?

    However, when I click on "Tools" "Many Photos" "Arrange", I receive a message that states "Sorry, that gallery contains no photos that can be arranged."
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited November 12, 2010
    It's something we're working on - and a hugely requested feature. Unfortunately, it takes a lot of under-the-covers work that will take some time. Stay tuned, and follow our release notes. We'll announce it there when ready. Thanks!

    http://news.smugmug.com
  • WinsomeWorksWinsomeWorks Registered Users Posts: 1,935 Major grins
    edited November 12, 2010
    Tecnicole wrote: »
    Is that the way it is supposed to be?

    I would like to arrange the viewing order in a gallery that consists of collected photos?

    However, when I click on "Tools" "Many Photos" "Arrange", I receive a message that states "Sorry, that gallery contains no photos that can be arranged."
    One option you do have in the meantime though: Go to "Gallery Settings" -- "Look and Feel" section. > Sort.... there are a few options there that will make the gallery sort by date, filenames, etc. I haven't tried it, but if any of those options are helpful, you could try that.
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  • JillLangJillLang Registered Users Posts: 42 Big grins
    edited January 20, 2011
    I really hope you guys are still working on the arranging collected photos issue.

    Thanks!!
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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited March 4, 2011
    Andy wrote: »
    We will post when the feature is complete. There's A LOT to it and we appreciate your patience.

    Happy to say this is done! Thanks all for your loyalty and patience wings.gif

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  • jpcjpc Registered Users Posts: 840 Major grins
    edited March 4, 2011
    You're a man of your word, Andy! Now go tell Microsoft how you did it so they can fix Win 7.
  • digilizarddigilizard Registered Users Posts: 15 Big grins
    edited March 4, 2011
    Andy wrote: »
    Happy to say this is done! Thanks all for your loyalty and patience wings.gif

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    You rock, Andy and all the Smug heroes! Much appreciated :Dclap.gif
  • CWSkopecCWSkopec Registered Users Posts: 1,325 Major grins
    edited March 4, 2011
    Andy wrote: »
    Happy to say this is done! Thanks all for your loyalty and patience wings.gif

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  • WinsomeWorksWinsomeWorks Registered Users Posts: 1,935 Major grins
    edited March 4, 2011
    Wow! Was not expecting that today-- great news! I figured that one was going to be a complete nightmare to figure out... wild! Off to try... wings.gif
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  • WinsomeWorksWinsomeWorks Registered Users Posts: 1,935 Major grins
    edited March 5, 2011
    Why isn't everyone jumping up & down with excitement over this new fun that we can have? Maybe it needs its own thread with a better title?? So many people were begging & begging for this capability. Now we've got it & I'm just not hearin' the joy! C'mon, people! Jump for joy! :D
    Anna Lisa Yoder's Images - http://winsomeworks.com ... Handmade Photo Notecards: http://winsomeworks.etsy.com ... Framed/Matted work: http://anna-lisa-yoder.artistwebsites.com/galleries.html ... Scribbles: http://winsomeworks.blogspot.com
    DayBreak, my Folk Music Group (some free mp3s!) http://daybreakfolk.com
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited March 5, 2011
    Why isn't everyone jumping up & down with excitement over this new fun that we can have? Maybe it needs its own thread with a better title?? So many people were begging & begging for this capability. Now we've got it & I'm just not hearin' the joy! C'mon, people! Jump for joy! :D

    Join the lovefest here
    http://news.smugmug.com/2011/03/03/arranging-collected-photos-and-smart-galleries/

    :D
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