Bowling Shots

canon400dcanon400d Banned Posts: 2,826 Major grins
edited May 25, 2010 in Sports
This is the first time I have taken any bowling shots. C & C and advice would be more than welcome. I used a 40D and 70-200L F.4. I do intend to take more of thse shots but I would like to know exactly what I should be looking out for especially with the composition etc etc.
Kind regards
Bob
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  • zack75144zack75144 Registered Users Posts: 261 Major grins
    edited May 23, 2010
    Never seen this sport before. I would suggest shooting portrait orientation, and try to position yourself to where they are bowling "at you" somewhat.

    I must also say that these shots all look out of focus. The shrub looks to be sharp in several of them. Which tells me that you should think about your auto focus method.
    I have a 40D and I use a single auto focus point. When you compose your shot, select the focus point that is nearest the face or chest.

    What f/stop are you using? It looks like you have too much DOF. I would shoot wide open, in your case f/4 to blur the backgrounds as much as possible.

    Good luck!
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  • EOS_JDEOS_JD Registered Users Posts: 68 Big grins
    edited May 23, 2010
    You need to be a little closer :)

    Also up the shtter speed a little and use a larger aperture if you can to isolate the subject.

    I'll post some of mine later! In a rush tust now :)

    What club is this?
  • canon400dcanon400d Banned Posts: 2,826 Major grins
    edited May 23, 2010
    EOS_JD wrote: »
    Upi need to be a little closer :)

    Also up the shtter speed a little and use a larger aperture if you can to isolate the subject.

    I'll post some of mine later! In a rush tust now :)

    What club is this?

    Thanks Zac I will certainly try that it sounds good advice.
    Regards
    Bob
  • EOS_JDEOS_JD Registered Users Posts: 68 Big grins
    edited May 23, 2010
    zack75144 wrote: »
    Never seen this sport before. I would suggest shooting portrait orientation, and try to position yourself to where they are bowling "at you" somewhat.

    I must also say that these shots all look out of focus. The shrub looks to be sharp in several of them. Which tells me that you should think about your auto focus method.
    I have a 40D and I use a single auto focus point. When you compose your shot, select the focus point that is nearest the face or chest.

    What f/stop are you using? It looks like you have too much DOF. I would shoot wide open, in your case f/4 to blur the backgrounds as much as possible.

    Good luck!

    I know a couple of the USA team. The guys are based in California - some stunning Lawn Green Bowling clubs there.
  • EOS_JDEOS_JD Registered Users Posts: 68 Big grins
    edited May 23, 2010
    OK Bob
    Zac's words are right. You need to be precise with the autofus shooting any sport. Possibly look to use AI servo because as the subject moves - so does the focus point.

    Set to shutter priority so you can control the shutter speed - you actually need a fairly fast shutter speed to stop action. Also AI servo to track the moving subject - use a single AF point - the middle focus point is probably the best to start with.

    A long lens is helpful.

    Here's a couple of mine.

    f15.jpg


    Kay-_-Joyce-Sepia.jpg

    Scottish-Pairs-Gold.jpg
  • EOS_JDEOS_JD Registered Users Posts: 68 Big grins
    edited May 23, 2010
    THis one has three of my USA friends! The guy on the right (Mr Siddal was the USA Champion recently) My brother is second in from the left and the three are his friends from when he lived in Santa Monica CA.

    BBT-8.jpg

    And these were taken at Northfield during the Scottish Finals when our ladies won the National Triples a couple of years ago.
    MG_1605.jpg

    MG_1620.jpg

    MG_1624.jpg

    I've millions of them so just a few quickies - I should add most with the 70-200 f2.8L IS or 300f4L IS.
  • canon400dcanon400d Banned Posts: 2,826 Major grins
    edited May 24, 2010
    EOS_JD wrote: »
    THis one has three of my USA friends! The guy on the right (Mr Siddal was the USA Champion recently) My brother is second in from the left and the three are his friends from when he lived in Santa Monica CA.

    BBT-8.jpg

    And these were taken at Northfield during the Scottish Finals when our ladies won the National Triples a couple of years ago.
    MG_1605.jpg

    MG_1620.jpg

    MG_1624.jpg

    I've millions of them so just a few quickies - I should add most with the 70-200 f2.8L IS or 300f4L IS.

    Yes I see exactly what you mean JD. On that first shot I can almost tell the time on his wrist watch. What great photos and you have given me something to strive for. I will certainly post again having used your techniques,
    Cheers
    Bob
  • EOS_JDEOS_JD Registered Users Posts: 68 Big grins
    edited May 24, 2010
    You have a few great lense s there so you should have no problem. I use a 40D and eother 24-105, 70-200 or 300. I also have a 1.4x extender but use that sparingly.

    Don't try to shoot from the side of the green towards rinks 3 or 4 unless you have the long lensd on - instead get to the end of the rink.

    THe guy at the top was on rink 1 so easy to get fairly close. Fill the frame as much as possible.

    What green are you a member of? We (Burnbank Hamilton) played at Dumfries in the QF or the Scottish Top 10 a couple of seasons ago.

    According to his watch it was 3:25 and 52 seconds :) I checked the original :)
  • canon400dcanon400d Banned Posts: 2,826 Major grins
    edited May 24, 2010
    EOS_JD wrote: »
    You have a few great lense s there so you should have no problem. I use a 40D and eother 24-105, 70-200 or 300. I also have a 1.4x extender but use that sparingly.

    Don't try to shoot from the side of the green towards rinks 3 or 4 unless you have the long lensd on - instead get to the end of the rink.

    THe guy at the top was on rink 1 so easy to get fairly close. Fill the frame as much as possible.

    What green are you a member of? We (Burnbank Hamilton) played at Dumfries in the QF or the Scottish Top 10 a couple of seasons ago.

    According to his watch it was 3:25 and 52 seconds :) I checked the original :)[/QUOT

    First of all thanks a lot for your reply and I certainly need your help here. I personally am not a member of our clubs although I know so many people who are members and they appreciate what I am aiming to achieve.
    Mmm are you saying I should shoot from the front? The ball coming towards me? I was thinking of using my other lens the 50-500 but surely this would be too much. I think I would be better sticking with my 70-200L F.4 and keeping it at F.4 with a shutter speed around 400. I always shoot manual so I may have to change this. What do you think?
    regards
    Bob
  • fredjclausfredjclaus Registered Users Posts: 759 Major grins
    edited May 25, 2010
    Is this what some might call Bochi Ball?
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  • EOS_JDEOS_JD Registered Users Posts: 68 Big grins
    edited May 25, 2010
    fredjclaus wrote: »
    Is this what some might call Bochi Ball?

    Lawn Green Bowling. Never heard of your term. :)
  • EOS_JDEOS_JD Registered Users Posts: 68 Big grins
    edited May 25, 2010
    canon400d wrote: »
    EOS_JD wrote: »
    First of all thanks a lot for your reply and I certainly need your help here. I personally am not a member of our clubs although I know so many people who are members and they appreciate what I am aiming to achieve.
    Mmm are you saying I should shoot from the front? The ball coming towards me? I was thinking of using my other lens the 50-500 but surely this would be too much. I think I would be better sticking with my 70-200L F.4 and keeping it at F.4 with a shutter speed around 400. I always shoot manual so I may have to change this. What do you think?
    regards
    Bob

    Bovb - the 50-500 would be good although you may need to up the ISO to get a decent shutter speed - manual is ok if the light is consistent across the green. If the light conditions are changing all the time, M is too much work. I generally use M for my work but on the green, Av and EC where required.

    I always shoot mide open where can.

    Post your results :)
  • canon400dcanon400d Banned Posts: 2,826 Major grins
    edited May 26, 2010
    EOS_JD wrote: »
    canon400d wrote: »

    Bovb - the 50-500 would be good although you may need to up the ISO to get a decent shutter speed - manual is ok if the light is consistent across the green. If the light conditions are changing all the time, M is too much work. I generally use M for my work but on the green, Av and EC where required.

    I always shoot mide open where can.

    Post your results :)
    Oh do I appreciate your advice JD you obviously know exactly what you are talking about. I will certainly take this on board believe me.
    Cheers
    Bob
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