Amazing how well you forget the bad stuff

MalteMalte Registered Users Posts: 1,181 Major grins
edited July 17, 2010 in SmugMug Support
I just made a copy of a photo and moved it from one gallery to another. And I want to cry. There has to be something to be done on the UI for this.

You may be tempted to suggest that collecting the photo solves this but it doesn't as long as a collected photo adheres to the permissions of the source gallery.

Malte

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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited July 8, 2010
    Hi Malte, would love to have your detailed suggestions put on http://smugmug.uservoice.com - thanks in advance!
  • pilotdavepilotdave Registered Users Posts: 785 Major grins
    edited July 8, 2010
    Andy wrote: »
    Hi Malte, would love to have your detailed suggestions put on http://smugmug.uservoice.com - thanks in advance!

    I understand you guys are using uservoice to track suggestions, but "copy to gallery" has been asked for forever and is as simple as can be. I'd recommend that every smugmug employee tries to copy a photo from one large gallery to another gallery to feel the pain. I bet "copy to gallery" would be added in about 5 minutes.

    Dave
  • MalteMalte Registered Users Posts: 1,181 Major grins
    edited July 8, 2010
    pilotdave wrote: »
    ..."copy to gallery" has been asked for forever and is as simple as can be. I'd recommend that every smugmug employee tries to copy a photo from one large gallery to another gallery to feel the pain...

    It has been requested on uservoice, and Andy has marked it as completed referring to virtual galleries.

    http://smugmug.uservoice.com/forums/17723-smugmug/suggestions/230121-add-a-copy-to-gallery-feature?ref=title

    Now if I had been able to assign different permissions, captions and keywords to the virtual instances of a file, that would be different.

    Malte
  • pilotdavepilotdave Registered Users Posts: 785 Major grins
    edited July 8, 2010
    Malte wrote: »
    It has been requested on uservoice, and Andy has marked it as completed referring to virtual galleries.

    http://smugmug.uservoice.com/forums/17723-smugmug/suggestions/230121-add-a-copy-to-gallery-feature?ref=title

    Now if I had been able to assign different permissions, captions and keywords to the virtual instances of a file, that would be different.

    Malte

    Exactly. A situation that comes up regularly is wanting to give higher resolution or non-watermarked photos to one person. Collections and smart galleries don't do it. "Copy to gallery" could make this incredibly simple task incredibly simple. But the way things work right now, it's almost impossible... without becoming completely frustrated. Careful when you make a second copy of a photo and finally do try to move it... if you move the original instead of the copy (and you can't tell them apart), you'll permanently break any links to the original.

    Dave
  • campocampo Registered Users Posts: 10 Big grins
    edited July 15, 2010
    i've found the quickest way around this issue is to upload two files to two different galleries!

    not exactly optimal, but faster then waiting for all thumbnails to populate in a big gallery before you copy one photo
  • jfriendjfriend Registered Users Posts: 8,097 Major grins
    edited July 15, 2010
    pilotdave wrote: »
    Exactly. A situation that comes up regularly is wanting to give higher resolution or non-watermarked photos to one person. Collections and smart galleries don't do it. "Copy to gallery" could make this incredibly simple task incredibly simple. But the way things work right now, it's almost impossible... without becoming completely frustrated. Careful when you make a second copy of a photo and finally do try to move it... if you move the original instead of the copy (and you can't tell them apart), you'll permanently break any links to the original.

    Dave
    Actually, moving a photo doesn't break links directly to the photo because the actual photo URL stays the same even when it changes galleries. If the link was to the photo on a gallery page, then that is broken because the photo is no longer in that gallery.

    In any case, I agree that make copy and move is quite a pain. Smugmug makes it about as difficult as possible. That's why I pretty much just upload again.
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  • MalteMalte Registered Users Posts: 1,181 Major grins
    edited July 16, 2010
    campo wrote: »
    i've found the quickest way around this issue is to upload two files to two different galleries!...
    jfriend wrote: »
    ...That's why I pretty much just upload again.

    I know, I do too. And that's what's really sad about it.

    Malte
  • pilotdavepilotdave Registered Users Posts: 785 Major grins
    edited July 16, 2010
    campo wrote: »
    i've found the quickest way around this issue is to upload two files to two different galleries!

    not exactly optimal, but faster then waiting for all thumbnails to populate in a big gallery before you copy one photo

    Yup, that's the only reasonable way I've been able to do it.

    Dave
  • pilotdavepilotdave Registered Users Posts: 785 Major grins
    edited July 16, 2010
    jfriend wrote: »
    Actually, moving a photo doesn't break links directly to the photo because the actual photo URL stays the same even when it changes galleries. If the link was to the photo on a gallery page, then that is broken because the photo is no longer in that gallery.

    True, but it happened to me once like this...

    Someone needed about 30 full resolution pictures for a poster. He sent me links to all the ones he wanted. What he sent were gallery links. I decided at first that I'd copy each one to a new gallery that allows original size. So I went to the first one, made a second copy. Then used the move to another gallery tool. Well, I was presented with ~200 thumbnails in that tool. Found the one I had duplicated and moved one of them to the new gallery. It was such a painful experienced I decided I wasn't going to be able to do it that way.

    Later I clicked that first link again. It brought me to a picture I didn't remember seeing before. I wasn't sure why he wanted that picture. Then I realized it was just the first picture in the gallery. His link broke when I unknowingly moved the original instead of the copy. The link didn't completely "break," it just took me to the first picture in the gallery. Basically it just linked to another picture.

    Anyway, even if they just made a single image tool for "move to another gallery" that moved the current image instead of opening a bulk tool, things would be somewhat better. I always find it annoying that the bulk tools don't automatically highlight the current picture when you enter the tool. I almost always want to apply whatever tool I chose to the image I'm looking at.

    Dave
  • AllenAllen Registered Users Posts: 10,014 Major grins
    edited July 17, 2010
    I just finished adding a bunch of photos to a new gallery for someone that
    wanted the originals. I dragged the link from the email to the browser, picked
    save in photobar, dragged d/l'ed photo from download folder to "upload" page.
    This is the fastest method I've found so far.
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