Advice after the fact please

SeascapeSSeascapeS Registered Users Posts: 814 Major grins
edited July 17, 2010 in The Dgrin Challenges
I really struggled with which shot to enter this time. I went back and forth and second guessed myself way too many times and just decided to go with my gut. Bad choice.

Okay, so help me out here and tell me which of these you prefer:


This is the one I entered. I know it needed more contrast, but to do that, I exposed a flaw that I couldn't fix.

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This was my second choice - more fun, but didn't portray the "she's all that" image. Also, my husband commented that it looked like she was peeing in the bag, so that stuck in my head.

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And last, one with color. I LOVED the color of the dress, but couldn't get past the fact that the chip bag clashed with the dress color.

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SandiZ
If I could tell the story in words, I wouldn't need to lug around a camera. ~Lewis Hine
http://sandizphotos-seascapes.smugmug.com/

Comments

  • TLVoDraTLVoDra Registered Users Posts: 171 Major grins
    edited July 13, 2010
    I really liked your image just the way it was entered. Your choice of cliche really cracked me up. I haven't heard that since I lived in Kentucky. My friends in MN struggled with the cliche. Laughing.gif OH, I have to agree with your husband about the 2nd image. Glad you didn't enter that one. : )
    Tammy~
    "In every job that must be done, there is an element of fun..." Mary Poppins
  • pyroPrints.compyroPrints.com Registered Users Posts: 1,383 Major grins
    edited July 13, 2010
    for future reference: look up the adjustment layer called selective color, to fix up large pieces of color like that. i use it all the time and it's amazingly useful
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  • SeascapeSSeascapeS Registered Users Posts: 814 Major grins
    edited July 14, 2010
    I do use selective color, but just couldn't get it to the color I wanted. Maybe I should have changed the dress to match the bag? Would have been easier!
    SandiZ
    If I could tell the story in words, I wouldn't need to lug around a camera. ~Lewis Hine
    http://sandizphotos-seascapes.smugmug.com/
  • photosbyjd2photosbyjd2 Registered Users Posts: 33 Big grins
    edited July 15, 2010
    its a cool concept... here in so cal its a term used a little bit. i was messing around with the shot and couldnt find your "flaw" that you spoke about. I bumped the exp. down and brought the blacks up a few notches. I feel this way the dress popped out a bit more.
  • photosbyjd2photosbyjd2 Registered Users Posts: 33 Big grins
    edited July 15, 2010
    nm... i see it... your talking about the spot on the right top side of the bag of chips right?
  • SeascapeSSeascapeS Registered Users Posts: 814 Major grins
    edited July 15, 2010
    Yes, that is much better and I would have preferred that.

    The flaw was actually on the underside of her raised arm. I took out the entire background and while doing that, I could not get her arm to look smooth in that area. Funny how I could do the rest of it, but no matter how hard I tried, I couldn't get that black outline out....just didn't have the coordination. Bumping up the contrast made it stand out way too much.

    I also wasn't too happy about the reflection on the top of the bag. I got it to look good on the other BW shot, but not this one.
    SandiZ
    If I could tell the story in words, I wouldn't need to lug around a camera. ~Lewis Hine
    http://sandizphotos-seascapes.smugmug.com/
  • photosbyjd2photosbyjd2 Registered Users Posts: 33 Big grins
    edited July 15, 2010
    it shows that u used a flash... was it the built in pop up?
  • SeascapeSSeascapeS Registered Users Posts: 814 Major grins
    edited July 15, 2010
    Oh no - I never use the built in. I either use no flash or the SB-600. The area where we were was a bit dark, so I did use the flash.
    SandiZ
    If I could tell the story in words, I wouldn't need to lug around a camera. ~Lewis Hine
    http://sandizphotos-seascapes.smugmug.com/
  • photosbyjd2photosbyjd2 Registered Users Posts: 33 Big grins
    edited July 15, 2010
    did u use a defuser or "bounce" the flash?
  • SeascapeSSeascapeS Registered Users Posts: 814 Major grins
    edited July 15, 2010
    Yes, I did use a diffuser.
    SandiZ
    If I could tell the story in words, I wouldn't need to lug around a camera. ~Lewis Hine
    http://sandizphotos-seascapes.smugmug.com/
  • photosbyjd2photosbyjd2 Registered Users Posts: 33 Big grins
    edited July 16, 2010
    WOW wht set up do you shoot with? Im sure you could have reduced the flash comp. and that may have helped. I shoot with a stock nikon D60 kit lens, and use "the puffer" difuser for built in flash. Here are some shots i did the other night in a really dark bar of a live band, all I did was put my flash to -3.0 so it wouldn't washout parts of the pics even with the difuser



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  • SeascapeSSeascapeS Registered Users Posts: 814 Major grins
    edited July 16, 2010
    Lighting is something I'm still working on. I did have it set to -3.0. My problem was that it was a very sunny day but we were shooting in shade. The sun was still reflecting though which was part of the reason I took out the background....too many sunny hot spots. It was a weird combination of shade and sunlight.
    SandiZ
    If I could tell the story in words, I wouldn't need to lug around a camera. ~Lewis Hine
    http://sandizphotos-seascapes.smugmug.com/
  • photosbyjd2photosbyjd2 Registered Users Posts: 33 Big grins
    edited July 16, 2010
    do you have the raw unedited shot?
  • SeascapeSSeascapeS Registered Users Posts: 814 Major grins
    edited July 16, 2010
    Yes. I guess the sun spots weren't too bad in this shot, but there was a lot of ugly background.

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    This is what I had going on that day:

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    SandiZ
    If I could tell the story in words, I wouldn't need to lug around a camera. ~Lewis Hine
    http://sandizphotos-seascapes.smugmug.com/
  • photosbyjd2photosbyjd2 Registered Users Posts: 33 Big grins
    edited July 16, 2010
    1. try up against a wall! would have worked better (no busy background) and the outfit would have "pop'd" out more.What i mean is look at the dress against the wall, it stands out mor then when green grass and tress are against it.


    2. Holy cow omg shes hott.
  • SeascapeSSeascapeS Registered Users Posts: 814 Major grins
    edited July 16, 2010
    I didn't have a wall available. I created one in the other shots above. All fabrication, my friend.

    Anyway, my original question was, would I have had a better shot at finals if I'd used one of the other two shots or had more contrast in the one I entered? May be a question for the judges, but I'd like to hear any opinions.

    BTW - She's my daughter. Her personality is just as great. Thank you!
    SandiZ
    If I could tell the story in words, I wouldn't need to lug around a camera. ~Lewis Hine
    http://sandizphotos-seascapes.smugmug.com/
  • lkbartlkbart Registered Users Posts: 1,912 Major grins
    edited July 16, 2010
    I think the lack of contrast made the photo look kinda boring. The pose & facial expression is right on. I really like the extra contrast photosbyjd2 added - maybe even more gold tones in the background would've given it more sparkle. :)

    My daughter is my muse too! Looks like you had a good time taking the photos with yours - & that makes it priceless!
    ~Lillian~
    A photograph is an artistic expression of life, captured one moment at a time . . .
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  • SeascapeSSeascapeS Registered Users Posts: 814 Major grins
    edited July 17, 2010
    Darn - I'm upset with myself. I put so much time into that and I knew it needed more contrast. It was washed out....

    Thanks!
    SandiZ
    If I could tell the story in words, I wouldn't need to lug around a camera. ~Lewis Hine
    http://sandizphotos-seascapes.smugmug.com/
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