nose manual

Te AmoTe Amo Registered Users Posts: 79 Big grins
edited July 20, 2010 in Sports
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  • ian408ian408 Administrators Posts: 21,940 moderator
    edited July 18, 2010
    Not working for me. Much too dark. Either more silhouette or more light on the subject.
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  • Te AmoTe Amo Registered Users Posts: 79 Big grins
    edited July 18, 2010
    It wasn't meant to be a silhouette, but rather a light outline. But its not for everybody.
    Thanks for looking.
  • SnowgirlSnowgirl Registered Users Posts: 2,155 Major grins
    edited July 18, 2010
    I don't see the outline well either. Sorry.
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  • toragstorags Registered Users Posts: 4,615 Major grins
    edited July 18, 2010
    Te Amo wrote: »
    It wasn't meant to be a silhouette, but rather a light outline. But its not for everybody.
    Thanks for looking.

    While true, you only backlite 25% of the subject. Good concept, keep trying
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  • Te AmoTe Amo Registered Users Posts: 79 Big grins
    edited July 18, 2010
    Snowgirl wrote: »
    I don't see the outline well either. Sorry.

    You don't see board?
    Might be your monitor
  • johngjohng Registered Users Posts: 1,658 Major grins
    edited July 18, 2010
    I see the board - it just didn't work well. Just because people don't like your artistic vision doesn't mean they have faulty monitors. If you're going to post in a public forum visited by other sports photographers you have to grow a thicker skin.
  • Te AmoTe Amo Registered Users Posts: 79 Big grins
    edited July 18, 2010
    I was being serious. Unfortunately, clowns like you don't seem to understand, and take it personally when nobody was talking to you.
    As I said, this type of shot is not for everybody. And if you don't like it, that's your business. It really doesn't effect me at all.
    I purposely set up the backlight to create an outline around the board, showing it in the nose manual position. And achieved just that effect. if someone says they can't see it, I'm left to assume its their monitor. But all that aside, it still has nothing to do with you.
    Perhaps its you who needs to grow a "thicker skin", or just keep your comments to yourself in the future.
  • johngjohng Registered Users Posts: 1,658 Major grins
    edited July 18, 2010
    Sorry my friend - public sports forum. If you can't handle critique don't post in a public forum. See I don't need your permission to critique your work. As a member here, I have the privilege. If you'd like to discuss photography like an adult you'll find you can learn a lot from members here. If you want to act childish and throw insults I suggest visiting another site.
  • Te AmoTe Amo Registered Users Posts: 79 Big grins
    edited July 19, 2010
    clearly you have much to learn about forum etiquette.
    i have no problem with critique, and as mentioned twice now, i am fully aware of peoples difference of taste. however, your presumptuous attitude towards things that have nothing to do with you only further show who the child is.
    with that, im done. i have nothing further to discuss with someone like you, nor the time to put in the effort to educate you. so welcome to the ignore list.
    anyone else, feel free to chime in. hopefully this guy was the only one who feels the need to rudely interrupt what could otherwise be a nice thread.
  • ian408ian408 Administrators Posts: 21,940 moderator
    edited July 19, 2010
    Actually, Te Amo, I agree with John and he was being polite. You were offered a couple of critiques and for each, your response implies there must be something wrong either with artistic interpretation or a monitor or something else. I'd argue that if negative comments outweigh the positive ones, there might be something there.

    Of course if you like the shot, great.
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  • IcebearIcebear Registered Users Posts: 4,015 Major grins
    edited July 19, 2010
    Just a guy with a camera - and an attitude. headscratch.gif
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  • cdonovancdonovan Registered Users Posts: 724 Major grins
    edited July 19, 2010
    Maybe they were confused and wondered why they couldn't see the guys nose?

    I like it, I wonder if it may even be a stronger pic if it was a tighter crop, cut the guy at his knees?? thumb.gif
  • ian408ian408 Administrators Posts: 21,940 moderator
    edited July 19, 2010
    cdonovan wrote: »

    I like it, I wonder if it may even be a stronger pic if it was a tighter crop, cut the guy at his knees?? thumb.gif

    Now that's a good idea.
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  • ian408ian408 Administrators Posts: 21,940 moderator
    edited July 19, 2010
    Icebear wrote: »
    Just a guy with a camera - and an attitude. headscratch.gif

    If you have something to add, great. If this is it, move along.
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  • xtnomadxtnomad Registered Users Posts: 340 Major grins
    edited July 19, 2010
    I see it. I guess you have to be a boarder. It was where my eye went first, and not looking for the guys NOSE. Try croping and move around with the crop. Could be the next billboad add for some trade mark. thumb.gif
    xtnomad :wink
  • Te AmoTe Amo Registered Users Posts: 79 Big grins
    edited July 19, 2010
    xtnomad wrote: »
    I see it. I guess you have to be a boarder. It was where my eye went first, and not looking for the guys NOSE. Try croping and move around with the crop. Could be the next billboad add for some trade mark. thumb.gif

    you could be right. maybe its a shot for the people involved, and not for photographers who dont understand the sport.
    cdonovan wrote: »
    Maybe they were confused and wondered why they couldn't see the guys nose?

    I like it, I wonder if it may even be a stronger pic if it was a tighter crop, cut the guy at his knees?? thumb.gif


    i debated going in tight on the crop, but personally i dont like close up stuff like that. but i guess that would help ease some of the confusion here.

    es la vida.

    thanks for the input guys.
  • cdonovancdonovan Registered Users Posts: 724 Major grins
    edited July 19, 2010
    Te Amo wrote: »
    i debated going in tight on the crop, but personally i dont like close up stuff like that. but i guess that would help ease some of the confusion here.

    es la vida.

    thanks for the input guys.

    I looked at it again, and I think you are right. Skaters aren't part of a team, it's a solo sport... he's very much alone in this picture, just doing what he's doing, I think the dark empty background really speaks to that as well. I'm an up close and personal type of shooter, hence my suggestion!! mwink.gif
  • Te AmoTe Amo Registered Users Posts: 79 Big grins
    edited July 19, 2010
    i feel you man. i like to get in close and wide when i can (if the skater knows how to ride a rail without decking my cam)
  • ZerodogZerodog Registered Users Posts: 1,480 Major grins
    edited July 20, 2010
    This shot doesn't do a lot for me either. But I like the concept of it. I would keep trying it. More light from behind will give some more outline and keep it dark.

    Here is my input of this image.
    In this shot the lights are distracting to me. Especially the stray little ones way out right and left. I would clone those out for sure The upper ones would be cooler if they were starbursts. Or maybe try cloning them out too. The other impression I get is that it is slightly soft focus on the skater. It is tough in the dark for sure. I use manual focus and prefocus on the subject before hand using a light of some sort.. When they are in the frame, bam, you got the focus locked on like a razor. For this shot you could also crank the sharpening in PP too. thumb.gif
  • ZerodogZerodog Registered Users Posts: 1,480 Major grins
    edited July 20, 2010
    Maybe I can see the shot better because i've been there, done that. Looks good to me.
    It is dark, maybe need to crop some of the left side out.

    This is how I would have processed it:

    (if you want me to pull that down, let me know)

    I like it.thumb.gif I would still loose those lights out on the right.
  • SimpsonBrothersSimpsonBrothers Registered Users Posts: 1,079 Major grins
    edited July 20, 2010
    Zerodog wrote: »
    I like it.thumb.gif I would still loose those lights out on the right.
    Yeah, I couldn't do that in Microsoft Picture Editor. rolleyes1.gif
  • Te AmoTe Amo Registered Users Posts: 79 Big grins
    edited July 20, 2010
    Do not edit my work
  • SimpsonBrothersSimpsonBrothers Registered Users Posts: 1,079 Major grins
    edited July 20, 2010
    Te Amo wrote: »
    Do not edit my work
    No problem. Sorry about that, I'm just really bad at explaining what I do so I showed you.

    It's been deleted. :D
  • Te AmoTe Amo Registered Users Posts: 79 Big grins
    edited July 20, 2010
    Zerodog wrote: »
    In this shot the lights are distracting to me. Especially the stray little ones way out right and left. I would clone those out for sure The upper ones would be cooler if they were starbursts. Or maybe try cloning them out too.

    this I can almost agree with. I don't know about "distracting", but the bg lights definitely could have been handled better.
    In retrospect, I would have liked to have had my tripod with me, and the camera on remote so I could have dragged the shutter for 20 more seconds to bring in the small amount of ambient light from the distant street lights. But as this was on a whim, I didn't have much equipment on me. Just whatever was in my backpack at the time.
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