How do you sharpen photos?

rookieshooterrookieshooter Registered Users Posts: 539 Major grins
edited July 29, 2010 in Finishing School
I'm curious how to sharpen in PS. I typically just use JPEG which does not need sharpening, but want to play around with RAW and sharpening to see the difference.

If you could post your preferred sharpening technique I would appreciate it.

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  • Te AmoTe Amo Registered Users Posts: 79 Big grins
    edited July 17, 2010
    i usually run it along a whet stone.
    then hone it with a diamond tipped steel to take the burrs off
  • adbsgicomadbsgicom Registered Users Posts: 3,615 Major grins
    edited July 17, 2010
    You might want to look at this this and also here.
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  • Art ScottArt Scott Registered Users Posts: 8,959 Major grins
    edited July 17, 2010
    I'm curious how to sharpen in PS. I typically just use JPEG which does not need sharpening, but want to play around with RAW and sharpening to see the difference.

    If you could post your preferred sharpening technique I would appreciate it.

    Sharpening is my very last part of my workflow....prior to saving as.............
    so I do all of my PS work (staring in lightroom) and then I go to filters page down to Sharpen then clik on UNSHARP MASK ......and slowly do my sharpening and watching the preview to make sure everything looks normal...no halos and such.......then I back off a notch or two and then save as a #12 jpeg.......
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  • rookieshooterrookieshooter Registered Users Posts: 539 Major grins
    edited July 18, 2010
    Thanks ADB. Art, when you say you "do my sharpening" what do you mean by that?
  • marchymanmarchyman Registered Users Posts: 23 Big grins
    edited July 18, 2010
    when you say you "do my sharpening" what do you mean by that?

    Move a slider.
  • pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,708 moderator
    edited July 18, 2010
    Rutt's original post about sharpening is still worthwhile reading since Unsharp Masking has been the basis for "sharpening" via contrast edge enhancement for years, whether in Photoshop or in a darkroom.

    The jpgs your camera pops out so quickly, have already had this digital sharpening performed by your camera according to the built in but limited parameters chosen in your camera's set up menu.


    Image Sharpening, of RAW images, is a complicated undertaking with conflicting goals of enhancing portions of the image, and at the same time trying to avoid enhancing other aspects of the image and avoiding increasing image noise which is inherent in sharpening if not done carefully. There are whole books written on the subject which you might want to explore. One book you might like to start with is "Real World Image Sharpening with Adobe Photoshop, Camera RAw, and Lightroom2 - 2nd edition" by Bruce Fraser and Jeffe Schewe

    All digital Raw images will need capture sharpening, as the very act of digitizing an image ( converting an analog image on a silicon sensor to digital data ) results in some loss of image sharpness. Digital sharpening consists of "haloes that everybody sees, but NOBODY notices" to quote Eric Chan, the Adobe engineer who worked on the sharpening module in Lightroom 3/ACR 6.1

    One simple way is to use the presets available in the Preset Panel in Lightroom3 which include Portrait and Landscape. There are different presets because faces and landscapes require different settings for good results with smooth skin and sharp eyes, versus the fine detail in leaves and grass in landscapes. You can then adjust the settings chosen in the Preset to begin to get a feel for what they do.

    Currently in Adobe Camera Raw v6.1 or Lightroom 3, sharpening is incorporated first in the RAW conversion engine, with four sliders - Amount, Radius, Detail, and Masking. You must zoom into your image to 100% to see what is happening as you adjust the sharpening sliders. If you hold down the alt/option key as you adjust the slider with your mouse ( and you are viewing at 100%) the image turns to B&W so you can see precisely what is happening to the edges of your images, as you make adjustments. It turns B&W because you are going to affect only the luminance values, not the color values of the image without having to convert to the LAB color space like rutt suggested in his tutorial.

    Amount is like amount in Unsharp Mask and can vary from 20-30% to 70-90% usually, and rarely more than 150% (Increasing amounts will increase image noise, and that is why the Noise Reduction dialogue box is part of the Sharpening panel as well. ) The Default value of AMount is 25%. And 0% means zero sharpening.

    Radius has a default value of 1.0, and I rarely move it beyond the range of 0.8 to 1.2, and usually leave it at 1.0 for standard DSLR Raw files - increasing the radius enlarges the area on each side of the line that the contrast is enhanced, and hence the halos which one wants to avoid as much as possible. Radius will vary some by file size, if the files are very large or small, but for standard DSLR Raw files, 1.0 works pretty well.

    The Detail slider helps suppress the halos crated with sharpening, with a setting of 0 resulting in the most suppression of halos, and 100 applies no suppression at all. With the Detail slider at 100, the sharpening approaches that done by Unsharp Mask. I rarely change this much from 25, but do raise it slightly if more sharpening is needed.

    The Masking slider, if the image is viewed at 100% with the alt/option key held down while sliding the masking slider, will display a black and white image that represents the mask that is applied to limit here the sharpening is going to be applied to the image. All areas in the mask that are black will not be sharpened at all, and all white areas will get the fulll sharpening effect. Grey areas will get intermediate values of sharpening. I make great use of the Masking slider to limit my sharpening to only those areas I want the sharpening accentuated, and to avoid sharpening areas like skies, skin tones, etc. My Masking values may vary from very little to 80 or 90 as I watch the image at 100% with the alt/option key held down.

    If I perform sharpening within Photoshop itself, I always do it on a copy of the background layer, so that I can use a mask or the Opacity slider to limit/control its effects on the image.
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  • malchmalch Registered Users Posts: 104 Major grins
    edited July 18, 2010
    Kelby Training and Linda.com both offer on-line training materials that include sharpening in a lot of depth.
    Personally, I like the video and PDF tutorials available from TLR:

    http://www.thelightsright.com/sharpeningyourphotographs

    I also like and use some of the TLR actions/scripts/panels, in particular:

    http://www.thelightsright.com/TLRProfessionalSharpeningToolkit

    It's a moderately huge topic so be prepared to invest a significant amount of time learning this stuff. I probably spent close on 100 hours over 3 months really getting to grips with the topic. Having said that, I didn't find it a burden -- thoroughly enjoyed the process in fact.
    Nearly all of the materials I have seen are totally Photoshop centric (and not easily transposed for other applications).
    "Real World Image Sharpening" by the late Bruce Fraser is a little dated but still considered a definitive text so you may want to track down a copy of that too.

    I also like the Deke McClelland series at Lynda.com:

    http://www.lynda.com/home/DisplayCourse.aspx?lpk2=543

    Study all of that and you'll be in good shape ;-)
  • Ric GrupeRic Grupe Registered Users Posts: 9,522 Major grins
    edited July 18, 2010
    ACR following Pathfinder's outline.

    I tend to do this a little heavy handed and rarely do any whole image sharpening after that. Local tonal contrast enhancement via NIK's Color Efex Pro plugin works for me in lieu of conventional sharpening techniques.
  • rookieshooterrookieshooter Registered Users Posts: 539 Major grins
    edited July 19, 2010
    thanks everyone.
  • arodneyarodney Registered Users Posts: 2,005 Major grins
    edited July 19, 2010
    From the guy who pretty much figured it all out ages ago (and the basis for Adobe raw sharpening):

    http://www.creativepro.com/story/feature/20357.html
    Andrew Rodney
    Author "Color Management for Photographers"
    http://www.digitaldog.net/
  • rookieshooterrookieshooter Registered Users Posts: 539 Major grins
    edited July 22, 2010
    I have now dabbled in sharpening. What do you think? Let me know if it's too much, not enough, etc. Thanks.

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  • W.W. WebsterW.W. Webster Registered Users Posts: 3,204 Major grins
    edited July 22, 2010
    Te Amo wrote: »
    i usually run it along a whet stone then hone it with a diamond tipped steel to take the burrs off
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  • pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,708 moderator
    edited July 22, 2010
    I have now dabbled in sharpening. What do you think? Let me know if it's too much, not enough, etc. Thanks.

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    They look good to me on my monitor.

    Remember that sharpening for prints ( output ) is different than sharpening for the web, too.
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  • IcebearIcebear Registered Users Posts: 4,015 Major grins
    edited July 28, 2010
    pathfinder wrote: »
    Remember that sharpening for prints ( output ) is different than sharpening for the web, too.

    OK, I've been reading this for years, and no-one ever bothers to say why, or how to do it differently. WHY?!? HOW?!? YES! I'M SHOUTING! :D
    John :
    Natural selection is responsible for every living thing that exists.
    D3s, D500, D5300, and way more glass than the wife knows about.
  • arodneyarodney Registered Users Posts: 2,005 Major grins
    edited July 28, 2010
    Icebear wrote: »
    OK, I've been reading this for years, and no-one ever bothers to say why, or how to do it differently. WHY?!? HOW?!? YES! I'M SHOUTING! :D

    Read the Fraser article (link above). Its all explained,
    Andrew Rodney
    Author "Color Management for Photographers"
    http://www.digitaldog.net/
  • IcebearIcebear Registered Users Posts: 4,015 Major grins
    edited July 29, 2010
    Thanks Andrew. I'd read that article long ago, and at the time was just learning the whole concept of sharpening. The finer points didn't sink in at the time. I appreciate your re-direct. I now have it bookmarked!
    John :
    Natural selection is responsible for every living thing that exists.
    D3s, D500, D5300, and way more glass than the wife knows about.
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