new lens: learning curve 0

ginger_55ginger_55 Registered Users Posts: 8,416 Major grins
edited August 25, 2005 in Wildlife
received it as sun was going down, after a rainy sunless day. Uncooporative dogs..............so ran out the front door, saw light in one place in the sky, with camera, new to me 400L 5.6 lens on camera, went to only place I thought I could reach before no light at all.

I was embarrassed to put these up last night. But hey, this will make others in future look good maybe. Especially if we can all forget the gorgeous shots John Mueller took. I didn't have a fast release on the lens, have to find one, so couldn't put it on the monopod. These are handheld, hahaha. I was excited, OK, I have deleted most of what I took, these are what these are..
I think I missed a green heron, bittern, bird that size, as too dark.

This does not have a lot of pixels, am not sure what kind of bird it is, looks like it did not fare well in the weather yesterday.
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This is my favorite view there, looking past the house on Sullivan's Island and out to sea. Haze still all around. This color is natural, just what it was. I tried to accentuate the yellow light in an upstairs window, but really did little post on these. Do not expect to exhibit them, just like to get first shots on day of lens arrival. And I wanted to know if I could hand hold.

I took one nasty fall. I do that by walking the wrong way w a foot on a curb type area. Lens fine. I discovered by where the blood is, I land on my knee and my elbow, thereby, so far, keeping lens and camera safe. That would have been terrible, if I had not learned to fall that way, especially w/o the protective UV filter.

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The above photo, I went with a bit up saturation in PS, in the following photo, I wanted it soft and did the opposite. Just marsh grass w the color of the sunset in the water.

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I missed much. Only the one bird. No feathers cut off, but few pixels there. Was a nice sunset, for which that lens was not the best.

I obviously have a long way to go. Might add a photo of my dog, his 4th birthday, and I ran out slamming the door in his face. My backyard is just not big enough for that long armed lens. Even with my throwing treats to get the dogs to the end of the yard. That led to snarls all evening.

ginger (but I hand held it)
After all is said and done, it is the sweet tea.

Comments

  • Osprey WhispererOsprey Whisperer Registered Users Posts: 3,803 Major grins
    edited August 25, 2005
    Hey Ginger......you did well for the tough shooting conditions. Refresh my poor memory. This is a Canon 400mm f/5.6 "L" lens on a Canon 20D body? I'm curious to hear how you like this lens..and how quick , accurate and responsive it is with the 20D's auto focus system. It sure would be cheaper than the 400 f/2.8...if it compares in AF accuracy and speed. This is the big thing for me. I would love to save some $$$$ and go with the f/5.6 version..but worry I'll miss too many BIF and fast action shots (not to mention low light situations).

    Cheers

    BMP
    Mike McCarthy

    "Osprey Whisperer"

    OspreyWhisperer.com
  • ginger_55ginger_55 Registered Users Posts: 8,416 Major grins
    edited August 25, 2005
    Thanks, Bird man, obviously I did not give the lens that kind of work out last night. I was just lucky to get what I did. And I feel so sick, last night and now. But I might/just might go out later on. The sun is coming out.

    The thing is, I am really scared to try it on birds, the usual normal birds we all shoot, I am not getting anything good right now, and I don't blame it on the lenses, past or present.

    Also, I tend to put a lens on and shoot w it. I have not had a fast lens in so long, I am just comparing this to my 300L F4, and w an extender on it. I will have to put a filter on this for protection, I am just too accident prone.
    So what I consider adequate might not be what you would consider OK.

    Like last night, I was not analyzing the lens, I was just trying to "work" it. Unless I had both lenses on the same camera types, Canon 20D, I just would not feel comfortable even thinking of one lens over another.

    I am going to put my dog up. He was 4 yrs old yesterday. To me that is getting old (er). Scary. And I slammed the door in his face.

    ginger
    After all is said and done, it is the sweet tea.
  • bfjrbfjr Registered Users Posts: 10,980 Major grins
    edited August 25, 2005
    Hey I thought you said all your birds were gone, and you cut off the boat:lol4
    I like the evening light on the 2nd shot and the 3rd has a very calming mood and color thumb.gif
    Congrats big time on your new lens 400mm is a good size for what we like to shot, till we can get bigger ones (lenses that is :D)
    Look forward to seeing more !!
  • gsgarygsgary Registered Users Posts: 1,350 Major grins
    edited August 25, 2005
    That 400 2.8L is some serious wedge her in the UK £5449:cry
    Hey Ginger......you did well for the tough shooting conditions. Refresh my poor memory. This is a Canon 400mm f/5.6 "L" lens on a Canon 20D body? I'm curious to hear how you like this lens..and how quick , accurate and responsive it is with the 20D's auto focus system. It sure would be cheaper than the 400 f/2.8...if it compares in AF accuracy and speed. This is the big thing for me. I would love to save some $$$$ and go with the f/5.6 version..but worry I'll miss too many BIF and fast action shots (not to mention low light situations).

    Cheers

    BMP
  • Steve CaviglianoSteve Cavigliano Super Moderators Posts: 3,599 moderator
    edited August 25, 2005
    Ginger,

    I like what you did with the last 2 shots thumb.gifthumb.gif The colors are dreamlike. Very kewl.......clap.gif

    Sorry to hear about your fall :uhoh Glad nothing was broken (lens or bones) and hopefully the bruise(s) will soon fade. It's also nice to see you posting your pics again :D

    I think you are going to need to exercise some patience with the new glass. This lens is known for it's sharpness, even wide open. If I may, for birds I'd suggest you shoot it wide open (F5.6) in Av mode and select ISO800. That should get you some really nice speeds in good light.

    FWIW, even though I have the Bigma, I really covet that 400mm F5.6 iloveyou.gif
    I have seen many great shots taken with that lens. One of the folks that Andy and I were lucky enough to shoot birds with at the Baylands (not to mention Hawkman) uses this lens almost exclusively for birding. She even uses a 1.4X TC sometimes. I'm not in her class pic-wise and I wouldn't expect my pics to become super just because I use the same lens. But, I do like the color, contrast and sharpness of this lens. Once you get comfy with it, I think you are going to feel the same way :D


    Steve
    SmugMug Support Hero
  • ginger_55ginger_55 Registered Users Posts: 8,416 Major grins
    edited August 25, 2005
    Hey, Ben, now that is a pretty "sad" looking bird don't you think? I can't even ID it. I did see and photo a couple of birds I would like to go back and get. Smallish, but still little heron size. They came out blurred and black last night.
    I understand that a bit earlier there was a huge flock of about 3 Ibis.:lol4


    Thanks for stopping and commenting.

    Gary, thanks for commenting, but what is a wedge?

    ginger
    After all is said and done, it is the sweet tea.
  • HarrybHarryb Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 22,708 Major grins
    edited August 25, 2005
    Its a start Ginger. You will enjoy that lens in the future. Just keep it simple and remember its the photographer not the equipment that makes the pic.
    Harry
    http://behret.smugmug.com/ NANPA member
    How many photographers does it take to change a light bulb? 50. One to change the bulb, and forty-nine to say, "I could have done that better!"
  • iceman17iceman17 Registered Users Posts: 246 Major grins
    edited August 25, 2005
    Hi Ginger i realy like the color in the last 2 shots,very unique.Im glad you didn't reck your gear in the fall,and hope your leg feels better....Mike
    I took a picture once
    but they made me give it back.
  • John MuellerJohn Mueller Registered Users Posts: 2,555 Major grins
    edited August 25, 2005
    Ginger,glad the lens arrived OKicon10.gif
    Sorry to hear about the fall. What I learned with that lens is you need lots of light.
    AV mode ISO 800 worked best for me.
    When the shutter speed is above 1/600( I liked 1/1000 or better) it should nail them birds
    Enjoy and take care of my ole friendxzicon_smile_cool.gif
  • ginger_55ginger_55 Registered Users Posts: 8,416 Major grins
    edited August 25, 2005
    Hi, john, thanks you and Steve for the ISO of 800 shooting info. I had it on 800 mostly last night, however practically no light, smile. You know, though, w/o it I would have no birthday photo of Skye, which we only see small, so it did not have to be perfect. I was just not into photography yesterday, and it was so wet.

    Also, I do like those photos the first day. I am forcing myself not to go out today, except for Advil and ice cream. The weather is grey, nothing special, no real reason to go out. I have a doctor appt tomorrow.
    Then I will start to feel better and hopefully I can breathe again.

    Your old friend now has a protective UV filter on it, probably a shock to the lens since you don't use them, but just that tad of insurance. I can take it off when I am in front of the shoot of my life.

    Also I put the quick release on it for the monopod. I did this all this afternoon, so it is being taken care of. And so far I love it. After all, I did handhold the darn thing in an adverse situation. I wouldn't plan for that, but it tells me that I can do it under the best of circumstances.

    And I will remember the wide open ISO 800, too. On AV, always AV, smile.

    Thanks,
    ginger
    After all is said and done, it is the sweet tea.
  • Steve CaviglianoSteve Cavigliano Super Moderators Posts: 3,599 moderator
    edited August 25, 2005
    ginger_55 wrote:
    Hi, john, thanks you and Steve for the ISO of 800 shooting info. I had it on 800 mostly last night, however practically no light, smile. You know, though, w/o it I would have no birthday photo of Skye, which we only see small, so it did not have to be perfect. I was just not into photography yesterday, and it was so wet.

    Also, I do like those photos the first day. I am forcing myself not to go out today, except for Advil and ice cream. The weather is grey, nothing special, no real reason to go out. I have a doctor appt tomorrow.
    Then I will start to feel better and hopefully I can breathe again.

    Your old friend now has a protective UV filter on it, probably a shock to the lens since you don't use them, but just that tad of insurance. I can take it off when I am in front of the shoot of my life.

    Also I put the quick release on it for the monopod. I did this all this afternoon, so it is being taken care of. And so far I love it. After all, I did handhold the darn thing in an adverse situation. I wouldn't plan for that, but it tells me that I can do it under the best of circumstances.

    And I will remember the wide open ISO 800, too. On AV, always AV, smile.

    Thanks,
    ginger
    Ginger,
    Just to clarify. Use ISO800 with good light. In really bright light you can sometimes use ISO400. For early evening/dusk type lighting, ISO800 won't be enough. Even with the lens wide open, ISO1600 may not get you handholdable/motion freezing speeds when used in this type of lighting ne_nau.gif

    Steve
    SmugMug Support Hero
  • rahmonsterrahmonster Registered Users Posts: 1,376 Major grins
    edited August 25, 2005
    Congrats on the new lens Ginger, I have had that lens on my wishlist for a long time now...one day:cry. I really like that last shot, the pink on the water is beautiful. There's always an adjustment period with new gear..And I'm certain that with you great eye for colour and compostition, and the length and speed of that lens you'll be posting away some gorgeous shots in no timethumb.gif I love your egret shots, they always have a little extra something that really tickles my fancy
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