Anyone see this ?

jgoetz4jgoetz4 Registered Users Posts: 1,267 Major grins
edited August 3, 2010 in The Big Picture
Good Evening Folks,
Just saw this and was curious if anyone else has seen it. What a yard sale find. http://www.cleveland.com/arts/index.ssf/2010/07/ansel_adams_lost_photo_negativ.html
Have a good evening :D
Jim...

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  • angevin1angevin1 Registered Users Posts: 3,403 Major grins
    edited July 27, 2010
    No Foolin...What a find indeed! thanks for sharing!
    tom wise
  • AngeloAngelo Super Moderators Posts: 8,937 moderator
    edited July 27, 2010
    YOWSER eek7.gif

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  • jgoetz4jgoetz4 Registered Users Posts: 1,267 Major grins
    edited July 27, 2010
    Something like this, WE have to share thumb.gif
    Have a good evening :D
    Jim...
  • dlplumerdlplumer Registered Users Posts: 8,081 Major grins
    edited July 27, 2010
    It's been all over the news today. I was wondering if someone here would post it.
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  • jgoetz4jgoetz4 Registered Users Posts: 1,267 Major grins
    edited July 27, 2010
    dlplumer wrote: »
    It's been all over the news today. I was wondering if someone here would post it.

    Hey Dan,
    If I didn't see it first, I would hope someone else would have posted it here. 10 yrs since he bought them at an auction. Curious as to what made him look further into the photographer that took them ? Maybe we'll find out soon.
    Have a good evening :D
    Jim...
  • Dan7312Dan7312 Registered Users Posts: 1,330 Major grins
    edited July 28, 2010
    One of the articles mentioned that the finder had no idea until a friend recently saw them and suggesgted that they "looked like Ansel Adams pictures". Then the finder started checking into things, got lawyer, hired experts and so on. Ansel Adams son says that they were not pictures taken by his father. It will be interesting to see where it goes.
    jgoetz4 wrote: »
    Hey Dan,
    If I didn't see it first, I would hope someone else would have posted it here. 10 yrs since he bought them at an auction. Curious as to what made him look further into the photographer that took them ? Maybe we'll find out soon.
    Have a good evening :D
    Jim...
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  • AngeloAngelo Super Moderators Posts: 8,937 moderator
    edited July 28, 2010
    a report on the news this morning has the Adams family suggesting the negatives are frauds


    http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/07/28/ansel-adams-grandson-challenges-negatives/
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  • jgoetz4jgoetz4 Registered Users Posts: 1,267 Major grins
    edited July 28, 2010
    Good Afternoon Folks,
    It's interesting to hear that Adams' family is saying that the negatives are not his, even though experts have 'dated' the negatives to his time, same dimensions, and some with charred evidence as well. Thanks for sharing the updates thumb.gif
    Have a good afternoon :D
    Jim...
  • gecko0gecko0 Registered Users Posts: 383 Major grins
    edited July 28, 2010
    Very interesting indeed...one must wonder if they are genuine or not (I hope they are, it's just too cool of a find!). To be a cynic, I wonder if the Adams family is denying it simply because they do not have them and can't benefit as much from them. If they found them, they would LOVE to have more prints to sell as originals, etc. :p
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  • vintagemxrvintagemxr Registered Users Posts: 224 Major grins
    edited August 1, 2010
    Uncle Earl shoots holes in Ansel Adams negatives?
    The plot thickens!

    Photo Mystery: Ansel Adams Or Uncle Earl?


    Interesting discussion at The On Line Photographer.

    Doug
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  • jgoetz4jgoetz4 Registered Users Posts: 1,267 Major grins
    edited August 1, 2010
    vintagemxr wrote: »
    The plot thickens!

    Photo Mystery: Ansel Adams Or Uncle Earl?


    Interesting discussion at The On Line Photographer.

    Doug

    Very Interesting. Maybe ole Ansel was learning from Uncle Earl rolleyes1.gif
    Thanks for sharing thumb.gif
    Have a good day :D
    Jim...
  • TangoTango Registered Users Posts: 4,592 Major grins
    edited August 1, 2010
    Maybe Uncle Earl & Ansel was on a Smugmug/Dgrin Shootout together...??:D
    Aaron Nelson
  • vintagemxrvintagemxr Registered Users Posts: 224 Major grins
    edited August 1, 2010
    AaronNelson wrote: »
    Maybe Uncle Earl & Ansel was on a Smugmug/Dgrin Shootout together...??:D

    I think the forum was known as AnalogGrin in those days. :D

    On a slightly more serious and speculative note, it seems likely that someone like Uncle Earl, there shooting large format pictures in Yosemite in those days, would have stopped in at the Best Studio (precursor to the Ansel Adams Studio) in Yosemite Valley, and probably crossed paths with Adams.

    Doug
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  • jgoetz4jgoetz4 Registered Users Posts: 1,267 Major grins
    edited August 1, 2010
    vintagemxr wrote: »
    I think the forum was known as AnalogGrin in those days. :D

    On a slightly more serious and speculative note, it seems likely that someone like Uncle Earl, there shooting large format pictures in Yosemite in those days, would have stopped in at the Best Studio (precursor to the Ansel Adams Studio) in Yosemite Valley, and probably crossed paths with Adams.

    Doug
    Hey Doug,
    I remember my grandfather telling me about an old magazine he use to get called the AnalogGrin mwink.gif There were lots of stories about people using these large, heavy cameras climbing all over God's creation to get pictures of trees, the sky and large rocks. Man, what a coincidence rolleyes1.gif
    I'm surprised that this is the first we had heard of Uncle Earl. After all, we know of Adams' friendship with Georgia O' Keefe and Alfred Stieglitz, both important people of the time.
    If they did cross paths, I would think there would be some correspondence, some type of record somewhere, indicating that, since both men seemed interested in the same subjects, at the same time, using basically the same equipment.
    Although, how would one explain the charred negatives if they weren't from the 1937 fire ne_nau.gif
    Have a good evening :D
    Jim...
  • jgoetz4jgoetz4 Registered Users Posts: 1,267 Major grins
    edited August 1, 2010
    AaronNelson wrote: »
    Maybe Uncle Earl & Ansel was on a Smugmug/Dgrin Shootout together...??:D
    They probably were, only it was a Smugmug/Agrin Shootout rolleyes1.gif
    Have a good evening :D
    Jim...
  • vintagemxrvintagemxr Registered Users Posts: 224 Major grins
    edited August 2, 2010
    jgoetz4 wrote: »
    Hey Doug,
    >snip< I'm surprised that this is the first we had heard of Uncle Earl. After all, we know of Adams' friendship with Georgia O' Keefe and Alfred Stieglitz, both important people of the time.
    If they did cross paths, I would think there would be some correspondence, some type of record somewhere, indicating that, since both men seemed interested in the same subjects, at the same time, using basically the same equipment.
    Although, how would one explain the charred negatives if they weren't from the 1937 fire <img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029383/emoji/ne_nau.gif&quot; border="0" alt="" >
    Have a good evening :D
    Jim...

    I was thinking more of a casual meeting in the Best Studio - what photo nut wouldn't have stopped there for a look around? But no matter, it's all speculation. With Uncle Earl and Ansel Adams both gone from this life I suppose the real facts of it all will never be known.

    I wish the negs were Adams because it would be great to see new work from his early period and the painter in Fresno could probably use the money but now there are lawyers involved so the story will not likely get any clearer.

    I wonder if I should run out and register analoggrin.com or maybe Andy has beat me to it already? <img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029383/emoji/rolleyes1.gif&quot; border="0" alt="" >

    Doug
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  • jgoetz4jgoetz4 Registered Users Posts: 1,267 Major grins
    edited August 2, 2010
    vintagemxr wrote: »
    I was thinking more of a casual meeting in the Best Studio - what photo nut wouldn't have stopped there for a look around? But no matter, it's all speculation. With Uncle Earl and Ansel Adams both gone from this life I suppose the real facts of it all will never be known.

    I wish the negs were Adams because it would be great to see new work from his early period and the painter in Fresno could probably use the money but now there are lawyers involved so the story will not likely get any clearer.

    I wonder if I should run out and register analoggrin.com or maybe Andy has beat me to it already? rolleyes1.gif

    Doug
    Hey Doug,
    Remember that two handwriting experts stated that the writing on the envelop belonged to Virginia Adams. That and the charred negatives give credibility that they belonged to Adams. Unfortunately, it will not get any cheaper because of the lawyers. Speaking of which, what is the difference between a vulture and a lawyer ? Removeable wing tips rolleyes1.gif
    Have a good evening :D
    Jim...
  • vintagemxrvintagemxr Registered Users Posts: 224 Major grins
    edited August 3, 2010
    jgoetz4 wrote: »
    Hey Doug,
    Remember that two handwriting experts stated that the writing on the envelop belonged to Virginia Adams. That and the charred negatives give credibility that they belonged to Adams. Unfortunately, it will not get any cheaper because of the lawyers. Speaking of which, what is the difference between a vulture and a lawyer ? Removeable wing tips rolleyes1.gif
    Have a good evening :D
    Jim...

    :D I wish I knew a lawyer to tell that one to.

    Adam's grandson has offered their official response to the negatives here.

    The Norsigian group is trying to get big $ each for prints made from the found negatives. I think they are dreaming even if the negs are authentic. Hanging on the wall I have a gelatin silver print made from an original Adams negative by his last darkroom assistant, Alan Ross, and sold through the Adams gallery. $300 framed. Seems like a better deal.

    Doug
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