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Lets see your best NO TOUCHING e-photo

ssersser Registered Users Posts: 233 Major grins
edited August 30, 2010 in Weddings
So i've been asked to do this couples e-photos and their religion restricts them to no touching! not even holding hands or his hand around her shoulders! I know there is a few poses I can do but was wondering if anyone has done this before? and if anyone has some creative pictures where there is no touching lol. Its hard for me cause my style is they absolute opposite.
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    AgnieszkaAgnieszka Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 3,263 Major grins
    edited August 26, 2010
    Wow! What religion is that (just out of curiosity)?
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    ssersser Registered Users Posts: 233 Major grins
    edited August 26, 2010
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    ssersser Registered Users Posts: 233 Major grins
    edited August 26, 2010
    Agnieszka wrote: »
    Wow! What religion is that (just out of curiosity)?


    its Islam, I used to work with a guy who was Islam so I know the relationship type part and ya no touching till they are married...
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    esc2476esc2476 Registered Users Posts: 354 Major grins
    edited August 26, 2010
    No trying before you buy. deal.gif
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    lizzard_nyclizzard_nyc Registered Users Posts: 4,056 Major grins
    edited August 26, 2010
    Google Pat Furey's Blog.
    He does quite a few "no touching" during a portion of his e sessions (not because it's mandatory, but it's part of his style). They're a little out there, but you can maybe tone it down for this couple..

    Good luck.
    Liz A.
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    SamSam Registered Users Posts: 7,419 Major grins
    edited August 26, 2010
    esc2476 wrote: »
    No trying before you buy. deal.gif

    Some how this offends me.....................

    Lets see, you want a camera, a camera that will fulfill your being here on earth.

    You can look at all the wonderful cameras, learn all about them, find out which one you are most attracted to. Appreciate the uniqueness and the beauty of that special camera. Then fill the rest of your life intimately growing closer and forming a bond that will last even after death.

    Or you can go down to the camera rental company and rent one that has been used and abused by hundreds of other camera seekers. They have done things to the camera that you would never do, could in fact horrify you, then the poor camera was kicked to the curb.

    Your choice. :D

    Sam
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    mmmattmmmatt Registered Users Posts: 1,347 Major grins
    edited August 26, 2010
    That whole concept just makes me sad... not the photography, but the lifestyle.

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    esc2476esc2476 Registered Users Posts: 354 Major grins
    edited August 26, 2010
    Sam wrote: »
    Some how this offends me.....................

    Lets see, you want a camera, a camera that will fulfill your being here on earth.

    You can look at all the wonderful cameras, learn all about them, find out which one you are most attracted to. Appreciate the uniqueness and the beauty of that special camera. Then fill the rest of your life intimately growing closer and forming a bond that will last even after death.

    Or you can go down to the camera rental company and rent one that has been used and abused by hundreds of other camera seekers. They have done things to the camera that you would never do, could in fact horrify you, then the poor camera was kicked to the curb.

    Your choice. :D

    Sam
    Was it my comment that offended you? If so, I am sorry.
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    AgnieszkaAgnieszka Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 3,263 Major grins
    edited August 26, 2010
    esc2476 wrote: »
    Was it my comment that offended you? If so, I am sorry.


    Hey guys ... let's better not get into this ... Let's leave that part to the couple.

    It's an interesting thread, so let's see if some of us have some ideas. Thanks! iloveyou.gif
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    MalteMalte Registered Users Posts: 1,181 Major grins
    edited August 27, 2010
    Agnieszka wrote: »
    Hey guys ... let's better not get into this ... Let's leave that part to the couple.

    It's an interesting thread, so let's see if some of us have some ideas. Thanks! iloveyou.gif

    With all due respect Angie, let's not get neurotic about it either. One guy was a bit offended, the other guy apologised, why get into it? I suspect you reacted to the religious nature but religion is a part of life, and I say that as an atheist. Not that I'm eager to discuss religion on a photography board but if I can't, I don't want to be here.

    Malte
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    MalteMalte Registered Users Posts: 1,181 Major grins
    edited August 27, 2010
    I would try to pose them looking at each other, if you can make that work, it could be even more intimate than touch.

    Malte
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    kyeeziekyeezie Registered Users Posts: 290 Major grins
    edited August 27, 2010
    I think location and props are going to be helpful in this situation. Also knowing exactly what they can and can't do, like can they get close and romantic without touching? Try to get them to show love in their eyes and body language. How about sitting them on a park bench next to each other with their feet dangling. Sit the guy on the table part and the woman on the bench part, have him maybe leaning back and looking relaxed and her, with her legs crossed towards him and maybe her head to the side like she is almost going to rest her head on his knee. Body language is going to be key. Is she crosses her legs or feet, make sure they are towards him. Have him picking a flower and handing it to her. Find something they like and get a pictures of their hands close to each other on it. I saw one like this, where their hands were next to each other on bicycle handle or have them reaching for a cup of coffee at the same time. If you can get them to lie on their backs, one with their feet one way, the other with their feet the other direction, basically cheek to cheek, some looking at the camera, so facing each other. If you have a doorway, a lot of people are doing the one person leaning against one side and the other leaning on the other and facing each other. Maybe you can get them with their feet next to each other, not touching, but kinda almost like they are going to play footsy. A picture with them sitting both relaxed and leaning back, hands close to each other, take the picture from behind and of their hands. Again, I don't even know if these are appropriate so make sure you know what they would feel comfortable doing and are able to do. I hope I didn't ramble too much and I hope it helps. Good luck and I want to see the outcome! Here are some images that have no touching or minimal touching that you can work with to get no touching. [IMG]<a target="_blank" href="http://img338.imageshack.us/i/827948465dsc0078.jpg/"><img src="http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/9192/827948465dsc0078.th.jpg&quot; border="0"/></a><br> <a target="_blank" href="http://img84.imageshack.us/i/829002169dsc0060.jpg/"><img src="http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/756/829002169dsc0060.th.jpg&quot; border="0"/></a><br> <a target="_blank" href="http://img685.imageshack.us/i/829002544dsc0087a.jpg/"><img src="http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/628/829002544dsc0087a.th.jpg&quot; border="0"/></a><br> <a target="_blank" href="http://img84.imageshack.us/i/829882784dsc0060.jpg/"><img src="http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/1391/829882784dsc0060.th.jpg&quot; border="0"/></a><br> <a target="_blank" href="http://img180.imageshack.us/i/829894995dsc0037.jpg/"><img src="http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/3366/829894995dsc0037.th.jpg&quot; border="0"/></a><br> <a target="_blank" href="http://img62.imageshack.us/i/829896599dsc0053.jpg/"><img src="http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/7524/829896599dsc0053.th.jpg&quot; border="0"/></a><br> <a target="_blank" href="http://img718.imageshack.us/i/924637324dsc0033.jpg/"><img src="http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/4607/924637324dsc0033.th.jpg&quot; border="0"/></a><br> <a target="_blank" href="http://img401.imageshack.us/i/925857153dsc0053a.jpg/"><img src="http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/2527/925857153dsc0053a.th.jpg&quot; border="0"/></a><br> <a target="_blank" href="http://img687.imageshack.us/i/925859835dsc0080a.jpg/"><img src="http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/5389/925859835dsc0080a.th.jpg&quot; border="0"/></a><br> <a target="_blank" href="http://img19.imageshack.us/i/kimlarry2.jpg/"><img src="http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/7653/kimlarry2.th.jpg&quot; border="0"/></a><br>[/IMG]
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    SamSam Registered Users Posts: 7,419 Major grins
    edited August 27, 2010
    esc2476 wrote: »
    Was it my comment that offended you? If so, I am sorry.

    OK lets keep this fun.........:D

    I wasn't really offended, and my comments were not specifically aimed at you. Please don't take it personally and no apology is needed.

    My post was an attempt to provide a tongue and cheek commentary on today's fast paced movie / media driven liberal, gota have everything now lifestyle that belittles a different more conservative value system.

    I attempted to use a camera as a metaphor. I make no claim to being a great writer, or even half good, but hey that won't stop me from trying. :D

    Sam

    I have to run out the door...i will post a story that prompted me to wrote the original post. Later.....................
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    SamSam Registered Users Posts: 7,419 Major grins
    edited August 27, 2010
    Now....the rest of the story..................

    Last year I was a second shooter at a wedding. When shooting the groom, and groomsmen getting ready I learned that the bride and groom had never so much as seen the other in thier underwear. Yes, unusual by today's standards. They had known each other for years, and had nothing against holding hands touching etc.

    But the love, commitment, and friendship between these two infused the entire day with an atmosphere unlike any other I have felt.

    The best way to describe it would be a spiritually magic day.

    Sam
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    SamSam Registered Users Posts: 7,419 Major grins
    edited August 27, 2010
    Malte wrote: »
    With all due respect Angie, let's not get neurotic about it either. One guy was a bit offended, the other guy apologised, why get into it? I suspect you reacted to the religious nature but religion is a part of life, and I say that as an atheist. Not that I'm eager to discuss religion on a photography board but if I can't, I don't want to be here.

    Malte

    Please note, I am not addressing religion!!!!

    That is up to each of us individually.

    Sam
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    aj986saj986s Registered Users Posts: 1,100 Major grins
    edited August 27, 2010
    I'm no pro, but found the challenge intriguing.

    Are there any hobbies or interests the couple have in common? Maybe capture them doing something they enjoy doing together, like riding in a car, or bicycling (2 bikes or a tandem), riding a rollercoaster, watching a movie in a theater, cooking a meal, walking pets, etc. Maybe enjoying time at a wine tasting or county fair. Or maybe taking pictures of each other. :D
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    AgnieszkaAgnieszka Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 3,263 Major grins
    edited August 27, 2010
    Hey, did you see Jessica's newest post? Right down your alley for this shoot :D
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    heatherfeatherheatherfeather Registered Users Posts: 2,738 Major grins
    edited August 27, 2010
    Sam wrote: »
    Now....the rest of the story..................

    Last year I was a second shooter at a wedding. When shooting the groom, and groomsmen getting ready I learned that the bride and groom had never so much as seen the other in thier underwear. Yes, unusual by today's standards. They had known each other for years, and had nothing against holding hands touching etc.

    But the love, commitment, and friendship between these two infused the entire day with an atmosphere unlike any other I have felt.

    The best way to describe it would be a spiritually magic day.

    Sam

    I have had several couples that haven't ever kissed until the literal first kiss during ceremony...and even more that are vergins. Blame it on wonderful conservative Alaska. rolleyes1.gifBut for one bride it was a real problem because every time he kissed her after the ceremony she would swoon a bit... he had to hold her steady. That made photos a bit tricky.
    Every time I have a couple that is willing to physically sacrifice their desires like that for their beliefs, those moments when they finally get what they have waited for are so extra sweet. I think it is the anticipation that adds to it. Magical is the perfect way to describe it, like Sam said.
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    MalteMalte Registered Users Posts: 1,181 Major grins
    edited August 27, 2010
    Agnieszka wrote: »
    Hey, did you see Jessica's newest post? Right down your alley for this shoot :D

    Great find! My faves:

    orthodox_jewish_wedding_photos-21.jpg

    orthodox_jewish_wedding_photos-26.jpg

    Malte
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    marikrismarikris Registered Users Posts: 930 Major grins
    edited August 27, 2010
    Easy for me to figure out a "favorite" when I only have one session to look through lol!

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    Matthew SavilleMatthew Saville Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 3,352 Major grins
    edited August 27, 2010
    Maybe I read wrong, or didn't read enough, but a lot of these pics have people *touching* in them. Ehh?

    I had to go back to 2009 to find a picture of a couple not touching, Laughing.gif, but here's one. Actually these are models, who aren't actually engaged, which is probably the ONLY reason they're not touching.

    Interesting concept and task, though. If you don't know how to create an interesting portrait without making people touch, you probably won't be shooting any of these clients any time soon! I don't know about others, but my target market (adventurous couples) really has nothing to do with religion or tradition.

    :-)

    =Matt=


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    l.k.madisonl.k.madison Registered Users Posts: 542 Major grins
    edited August 27, 2010
    I know of several couples who didn't even kiss until their wedding day, some religions don't even allow kissing during the ceremony.

    I do agree with the camera analogy, a little too conservative for my blood, but whatever floats your boat.

    As far as not touching each other... hmm.. that would be a toughie. I'd see how close they could be to each other without breaking any rules and go from there. I'd see if I couldn't get a lot of them smiling at each other, maybe some of her blushing while he whispers something in her ear, anything that shows intimacy without any physical contact.

    Good luck, we're all curious to see what you'll come up with!
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    heatherfeatherheatherfeather Registered Users Posts: 2,738 Major grins
    edited August 27, 2010
    Ok, I realize this is not an engagement photo...and not even close to the worlds best photo. It is just a couple kids at a reception having fun with bubbles. But it could be totally cute idea to play at an e-shesh without touching.937690829_F4XsG-M.jpg
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    The MackThe Mack Registered Users Posts: 602 Major grins
    edited August 27, 2010
    esc2476 wrote: »
    Was it my comment that offended you? If so, I am sorry.

    Don't be sorry. There is nothing to be sorry about.
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    ssersser Registered Users Posts: 233 Major grins
    edited August 28, 2010
    kyeezie wrote: »
    I think location and props are going to be helpful in this situation. Also knowing exactly what they can and can't do, like can they get close and romantic without touching? Try to get them to show love in their eyes and body language. How about sitting them on a park bench next to each other with their feet dangling. Sit the guy on the table part and the woman on the bench part, have him maybe leaning back and looking relaxed and her, with her legs crossed towards him and maybe her head to the side like she is almost going to rest her head on his knee. Body language is going to be key. Is she crosses her legs or feet, make sure they are towards him. Have him picking a flower and handing it to her. Find something they like and get a pictures of their hands close to each other on it. I saw one like this, where their hands were next to each other on bicycle handle or have them reaching for a cup of coffee at the same time. If you can get them to lie on their backs, one with their feet one way, the other with their feet the other direction, basically cheek to cheek, some looking at the camera, so facing each other. If you have a doorway, a lot of people are doing the one person leaning against one side and the other leaning on the other and facing each other. Maybe you can get them with their feet next to each other, not touching, but kinda almost like they are going to play footsy. A picture with them sitting both relaxed and leaning back, hands close to each other, take the picture from behind and of their hands. Again, I don't even know if these are appropriate so make sure you know what they would feel comfortable doing and are able to do. I hope I didn't ramble too much and I hope it helps. Good luck and I want to see the outcome! Here are some images that have no touching or minimal touching that you can work with to get no touching. [IMG][/img]827948465dsc0078.th.jpg
    829002169dsc0060.th.jpg
    829002544dsc0087a.th.jpg
    829882784dsc0060.th.jpg
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    829896599dsc0053.th.jpg
    924637324dsc0033.th.jpg
    925857153dsc0053a.th.jpg
    925859835dsc0080a.th.jpg
    kimlarry2.th.jpg

    Thanks for the ideas but when they say no touching they mean no TOUCHING! hah
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    ssersser Registered Users Posts: 233 Major grins
    edited August 28, 2010
    I have had several couples that haven't ever kissed until the literal first kiss during ceremony...and even more that are vergins. Blame it on wonderful conservative Alaska. rolleyes1.gifBut for one bride it was a real problem because every time he kissed her after the ceremony she would swoon a bit... he had to hold her steady. That made photos a bit tricky.
    Every time I have a couple that is willing to physically sacrifice their desires like that for their beliefs, those moments when they finally get what they have waited for are so extra sweet. I think it is the anticipation that adds to it. Magical is the perfect way to describe it, like Sam said.


    I know what you mean I feel it is in alot of ways a very beautiful moment and when I shot theyre wedding and get that kiss my markII is gonna be on full extreme burst most to capture that first kiss moment!! hah
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    ssersser Registered Users Posts: 233 Major grins
    edited August 28, 2010
    Maybe I read wrong, or didn't read enough, but a lot of these pics have people *touching* in them. Ehh?

    I had to go back to 2009 to find a picture of a couple not touching, Laughing.gif, but here's one. Actually these are models, who aren't actually engaged, which is probably the ONLY reason they're not touching.

    Interesting concept and task, though. If you don't know how to create an interesting portrait without making people touch, you probably won't be shooting any of these clients any time soon! I don't know about others, but my target market (adventurous couples) really has nothing to do with religion or tradition.

    :-)


    =Matt=


    721564394_o7qhN-O.jpg


    I know you never realize how hard it is to find a pic of a couple not touching each other and that is why I am so excited for this shoot cause it'll really be sucking up my creative juices for sure! I love a challenge
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    ssersser Registered Users Posts: 233 Major grins
    edited August 28, 2010
    Agnieszka wrote: »
    Hey, did you see Jessica's newest post? Right down your alley for this shoot :D

    Thanks looks great
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    kyeeziekyeezie Registered Users Posts: 290 Major grins
    edited August 30, 2010
    I know that some of my posts have people touching, and I did say that some of those poses would have to be altered some but would still be a good outcome. Like the one with the shells in front and the people behind, those people don't need to be touching. The feet picture can be with their feet close and leaned in towards each other but not touching (something I also said). Apparently the non touching ones got skipped over, because there are some of those too. I did write some examples and I posted some of the pictures that were similar to those examples, just to kind of get the idea. That blog was awesome!!!
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    KinkajouKinkajou Registered Users Posts: 1,240 Major grins
    edited August 30, 2010
    Here are some ideas...

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    I think you could pull this off without touching:
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    If you just don't have them hold hands, something like this could work too:
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    Again, without holding hands:
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    I would also google Sarah Rhodes's blog. Really creative stuff.
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