Lightroom 3.2 publish docs/release notes?

kwalshkwalsh Registered Users Posts: 223 Major grins
edited September 2, 2010 in SmugMug Support
Happy to see the final release of LR3.2 appears to have native publish support for smugmug. Good job guys!

But... can we expect some wiki docs or release notes to let us know what can be done, what doesn't work yet, etc? I saw in a recent post in an old thread syncing for certain things only working in one direction at the moment. Would be cool to have a wiki page, release note, blog post, something about this very cool new feature.

Thanks!

Ken


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  • devbobodevbobo Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 4,339 SmugMug Employee
    edited August 31, 2010
    G'day Ken,

    There will be release notes, blog post etc sometime this week, we are waiting for Adobe to finalise something with respect to marketing before we do though thumb.gif

    Cheers,

    David
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  • e-Scape Photoe-Scape Photo Registered Users Posts: 20 Big grins
    edited August 31, 2010
    Hooray! Just downloading it now! As much as I loved Jefferey's plugin, it would never work properly despite a rebuilt system and fresh installs.... just hope this one does work!!!!
  • JimClarkJimClark Registered Users Posts: 305 Major grins
    edited August 31, 2010
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  • VerulamVerulam Registered Users Posts: 13 Big grins
    edited August 31, 2010
    devbobo wrote: »
    G'day Ken,

    There will be release notes, blog post etc sometime this week, we are waiting for Adobe to finalise something with respect to marketing before we do though thumb.gif

    Cheers,

    David

    I upgraded from 3.0 to Lightroom 3.2 but no SmugMug.

    I only have Hard Drive, Flickr and Facebook under the Publish tab.
  • devbobodevbobo Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 4,339 SmugMug Employee
    edited August 31, 2010
    Verulam wrote: »
    I upgraded from 3.0 to Lightroom 3.2 but no SmugMug.

    I only have Hard Drive, Flickr and Facebook under the Publish tab.

    It sounds like you downloaded the release candidate and not the final version, try downloading from here...

    http://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal/2010/08/lightroom-3-2-and-camera-raw-6-2-now-available.html
    David Parry
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  • VerulamVerulam Registered Users Posts: 13 Big grins
    edited August 31, 2010
    devbobo wrote: »
    It sounds like you downloaded the release candidate and not the final version, try downloading from here...

    http://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal/2010/08/lightroom-3-2-and-camera-raw-6-2-now-available.html


    Many thanks. Yes I got the relese candidate.

    I will try again using your link.

    Cheers.
  • VerulamVerulam Registered Users Posts: 13 Big grins
    edited August 31, 2010
    devbobo wrote: »
    It sounds like you downloaded the release candidate and not the final version, try downloading from here...

    http://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal/2010/08/lightroom-3-2-and-camera-raw-6-2-now-available.html


    OK I have it working now.
  • Dan7312Dan7312 Registered Users Posts: 1,330 Major grins
    edited August 31, 2010
    Click on the "+" sign in the Publish Services tab. Then click on "set up..." for SmugMug, it should be neat the bottom of the mene that pops up.
    Verulam wrote: »
    I upgraded from 3.0 to Lightroom 3.2 but no SmugMug.

    I only have Hard Drive, Flickr and Facebook under the Publish tab.
    Dan

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  • IcebearIcebear Registered Users Posts: 4,015 Major grins
    edited August 31, 2010
    I upgraded to LR 3.2 and "poof" my Export to Smugmug plugin was gone. 'Course now I have the "Publish" thingy. Is it better? I've used it, but I really don't know why one would be better than the other. Guess I'm not too savvy.
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  • devbobodevbobo Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 4,339 SmugMug Employee
    edited September 1, 2010
    Icebear wrote: »
    I upgraded to LR 3.2 and "poof" my Export to Smugmug plugin was gone. 'Course now I have the "Publish" thingy. Is it better? I've used it, but I really don't know why one would be better than the other. Guess I'm not too savvy.

    John,

    The two SmugMug plugins are totally different and can coexist happily, if Jeffrey Friedl's doesn't appear it's most likely been disabled for some reason. From within LR, select File->Plug-In Manager... and you should be able to enable Jeffrey's plugin.

    Cheers,

    David
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  • VerulamVerulam Registered Users Posts: 13 Big grins
    edited September 1, 2010
    devbobo wrote: »
    John,

    The two SmugMug plugins are totally different and can coexist happily, if Jeffrey Friedl's doesn't appear it's most likely been disabled for some reason. From within LR, select File->Plug-In Manager... and you should be able to enable Jeffrey's plugin.

    Cheers,

    David

    Hi again David

    How do we use the Synchronize Hierarchy and Sync now button?
    I assume Lightroom will not bring in everything that is already uploaded to SmugMug and that all those galleries under Publish Services will remain at zero?

    What are the other sync options?

    Show Advanced Gallery Dialog
    Sync Gallery Settings before Edit


    I do like the way I can now drag and drop photos into galleries and then publish with a single click.
    　
  • e-Scape Photoe-Scape Photo Registered Users Posts: 20 Big grins
    edited September 1, 2010
    Am busy doing my first publish with the new Integrated plugin - good news is that it actually works - compared to continual errors using Jefferey's plugin. So far so good, although I do hope devbobo is right and an upgrade to 'reverse populate' publish collections is inbound soon - like that feature of Jefferey's.

    Only issue encountered so far is that the publish service does not filter keywords that are set not to export and uploads them all anyway - so all my workflow keywords appear in smugmug.
  • devbobodevbobo Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 4,339 SmugMug Employee
    edited September 1, 2010
    Verulam wrote: »
    How do we use the Synchronize Hierarchy and Sync now button?
    I assume Lightroom will not bring in everything that is already uploaded to SmugMug and that all those galleries under Publish Services will remain at zero?
    When you initially create the publish service instance, if 'Sync Hierarchy' was selected, when you click Save, we automatically sync the hierarchy.
    After that, it needs to be manually activated using the 'Sync Now' button...whether you need to do that really depends on how you use LR...whether you have multiple users accessing your SmugMug account or perhaps using multiple catalogs.

    At this point, the photo counts will remain at zero unless you manually add photos to those galleries within LR. I'm actively working on a new release that syncs photos that have been uploaded to SmugMug...when that goes live, there will be an additional option 'Sync Photos' that will determine if this new functionality is executed or not when 'Sync Now' is clicked.
    Verulam wrote: »
    What are the other sync options?

    Show Advanced Gallery Dialog

    With this option deselected the 'Create/Edit Gallery' dialog looks like this...
    20100901-8pycsy3pgbqsmg1e7qahggr1n2.png

    This is useful if you create most of your galleries using Quick Settings. To set a specific option, you need to select 'Advanced Settings...' from the Quick Settings menu which opens a modal dialog over the current window.

    With this option selected, the 'Create/Edit Gallery' dialog looks like this...
    20100901-qnc9fcpbe3kwmr2kj5hgpbh442.png

    Verulam wrote: »
    Sync Gallery Settings before Edit
    If this option is selected, when you open the Edit dialog for a gallery that has been published on SmugMug...the plugin makes a call in the background to retrieve the current gallery settings, the new settings are applied as the new defaults when the dialog opens. This could be useful if you change options directly on SmugMug or if you using multiple catalogs where you might be uploading to the same galleries.
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  • devbobodevbobo Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 4,339 SmugMug Employee
    edited September 1, 2010
    e-Scape Photo wrote: »
    Only issue encountered so far is that the publish service does not filter keywords that are set not to export and uploads them all anyway - so all my workflow keywords appear in smugmug.

    Can you please show me how/where I configure that ?

    Thanks,

    David
    David Parry
    SmugMug API Developer
    My Photos
  • VerulamVerulam Registered Users Posts: 13 Big grins
    edited September 1, 2010
    Many thanks David for all this useful information. It has been a great help.
  • e-Scape Photoe-Scape Photo Registered Users Posts: 20 Big grins
    edited September 1, 2010
    devbobo wrote: »
    Can you please show me how/where I configure that ?

    Thanks,

    David

    David,

    I use a whole set of keywords to manage my workflow using smart collections and they are all set to not export (by right clicking on the key word, selecting edit keyword tag and then deselecting 'include on export'.)

    I assume the publish functionality bypasses this bit, although it appears to still use the export engine given the first thign that happens is a dialogue box that says 'preparing to export' comes up!

    It's not a big deal for me, but I guess it could be for others. Once my system is up and running all my workflow keywords should be removed by the time I get to upload to smugmug anyway.

    Hope that helps :)
  • kwalshkwalsh Registered Users Posts: 223 Major grins
    edited September 1, 2010
    devbobo wrote: »
    Can you please show me how/where I configure that ?

    While in the library module right click on a keyword in the keyword list panel and then click on "Edit keyword tag..." in the pop up.

    In the pop up you'll see check boxes for export options for this keyword and relations to it.

    This is a very vital feature for anyone that makes any sort of serious use of keywording. Most would use both "private" keywords for internal library management and "public" keywords for improved searching on smugmug. A classic example might be for a photographer to have client based keywords they wouldn't want public. I don't know whether the problem would be on your end or LRs.

    For me not a huge deal at the moment, the vast majority of my keywords are set to export anyway and I don't have any clients :)
  • devbobodevbobo Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 4,339 SmugMug Employee
    edited September 1, 2010
    kwalsh wrote: »
    While in the library module right click on a keyword in the keyword list panel and then click on "Edit keyword tag..." in the pop up.

    In the pop up you'll see check boxes for export options for this keyword and relations to it.

    This is a very vital feature for anyone that makes any sort of serious use of keywording. Most would use both "private" keywords for internal library management and "public" keywords for improved searching on smugmug. A classic example might be for a photographer to have client based keywords they wouldn't want public. I don't know whether the problem would be on your end or LRs.

    For me not a huge deal at the moment, the vast majority of my keywords are set to export anyway and I don't have any clients :)

    From what I can see, I'm doing the right thing...I'll follow up with the Lightroom QE team.

    Thanks,

    David
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  • devbobodevbobo Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 4,339 SmugMug Employee
    edited September 1, 2010
    Verulam wrote: »
    I do like the way I can now drag and drop photos into galleries and then publish with a single click.

    Also, you don't have to drag and drop files into galleries... here's another method..

    1. Right-click on the gallery that you want to upload photos to.
    2. Select 'Set as Target Collection' ..

    20100901-mfcd6kx5fr5h8jchk1x7pfmfbe.png

    3. This will add a plus sign next to the selected gallery...

    20100901-fkbq9hqaw55ewg1u1xqkjsje7f.png

    4. Now select the photo(s) you want to add to this gallery.
    5. Right-click and select 'Add to Target Collection' or just press B...

    20100901-8ih6msn4juyjqxntnug6c8ipqx.png
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  • hoffmcshoffmcs Registered Users Posts: 125 Major grins
    edited September 1, 2010
    Great work David. Very nice!
  • Dan7312Dan7312 Registered Users Posts: 1,330 Major grins
    edited September 1, 2010
    Now that I've had a chance to try out the smugmug publish stuff it is really neat. Good stuff David!thumb.gif


    devbobo wrote: »
    G'day Ken,

    There will be release notes, blog post etc sometime this week, we are waiting for Adobe to finalise something with respect to marketing before we do though thumb.gif

    Cheers,

    David
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  • jh4wvujh4wvu Registered Users Posts: 169 Major grins
    edited September 1, 2010
    I am just curious...

    What are folks setting the JPEG Quality at for uploads from Raw files?

    80% 90% 100%???

    What settings do Smugmug folks recommend?

    Thanks,
    Chris
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited September 1, 2010
    jh4wvu wrote: »
    I am just curious...

    What are folks setting the JPEG Quality at for uploads from Raw files?

    80% 90% 100%???

    What settings do Smugmug folks recommend?

    Thanks,
    Chris

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  • e-Scape Photoe-Scape Photo Registered Users Posts: 20 Big grins
    edited September 1, 2010
    If you look at Jeffery's Blog there is a really good article on JPEG quality and the actual impact it has... indedd his own plugin does not allow publ;ish/export above 90!
  • devbobodevbobo Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 4,339 SmugMug Employee
    edited September 2, 2010
    e-Scape Photo wrote: »
    Only issue encountered so far is that the publish service does not filter keywords that are set not to export and uploads them all anyway - so all my workflow keywords appear in smugmug.

    The Lightroom QE team confirmed that if 'Write Keywords as Lightroom Hierarchy' is selected, that keywords get exported regardless of whether they had been set not to export.
    David Parry
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  • e-Scape Photoe-Scape Photo Registered Users Posts: 20 Big grins
    edited September 2, 2010
    devbobo wrote: »
    The Lightroom QE team confirmed that if 'Write Keywords as Lightroom Hierarchy' is selected, that keywords get exported regardless of whether they had been set not to export.

    OK - thanks for the clarification. I can live with that :)
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited September 2, 2010
    Thread closed, discussion continues here:
    http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=176963

    Thanks!
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