Varsity Football in the dark
I know that Football with bad lighting is what it is but can anyone tell me how they get the great photos? I push the limits of my camera and end up with a few like the one posted that I think is pretty good though I want more....is it possible? If so what camera settings are you using? ISO, F/Stop, Shutter Speed? that's all I need. I am not looking for 5X7 photo good I would like to see 13X19 at least. Thanks for your help and insight. This is the first game of my second season shooting Football and it makes me crazy. I am not a photoshop user over my head. I use noise ninja and lightroom 2 make some adjustments in Lightroom first I crop, then Tone Curve (highlights, Lights, darks, and shadows) then I ad some Vibrance and saturation back in maybe a little more noise reduction from lightroom and call it good.
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I see a few options:
1) You can use a flash to freeze your action (allowing you to drop your ISO, get better lighting under the helmet and eliminate WB issues)
2) switch to manual mode, bump up your ISO, allowing you to increase your shutter speed. (chk out Hockeytown74's photos at "http://dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=177822"
regards, Kevin
Canon 1DM4, 300mm 2.8, 70-200mm 2.8, 200mm 1.8, 24-70mm 2.8, 85mm 1.8
Hello Kevin,
You are good 1D Mark 111 so I am out of ISO at 6400 ISO that was the best I could and 800 shutter speed. I will need to try the flash I guess just a long way to try to get light. Its dark not like College level here. I noticed that Northern Cal football compared to the South or East the lighting at the high school level anyway is much better.
Would you white balance I do in the gyms but don't in the dark
Can you give me an idea of you setting for that shot. I don't think I good get that much light out of a 580EXII .
The general feel for what I am hearing is that I am at my limits.
Thanks for the help and the direction.
Why not? That was the flash I used. It's more than capable of providing enough light for 300mm range (40 yards or less).
Of course you want to use external battery pack so you get faster recycle times.
Okay,
Talk to me John
I really would like to learn and I have alot of Football to shot this year.
I have never really used my flash for anything.
Can you give me an idea of setting I know that all places are different but the basics are the same.
Also what battery pack would you recommend?
Thanks for your help and insight.
PS I have a 580EXII and it works great across the field especially with the 300mm 2.8 You will need a battery pack, I bought Canon pack
Canon 1DM3, 20D & 40D, Canon f/2.8 70-200mm IS, Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8
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Troy, MI
D700/200, SB800(4), 70-200, 300 2.8 and a few more
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I guess I need to figure something out like that.
I see money tied to a monopod.
Yeah, you can get away with a single flashgun tethered with a cord and a bogen superclamp.
I no longer used the SD8a battery packs but I do have 3 pocketwizards and two clamps and two speedlights....
Troy, MI
D700/200, SB800(4), 70-200, 300 2.8 and a few more
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Those are great..I got to try flash.
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The flash are great on still photos do you have any action with the flash. I have success with basketball bouncing the flash off a wall or ceiling. But football I tried the SB-800 on my monopod and hate the limit on shots. With a quick pass play I feel i loose the shot and get frustrated.
Nikon D70,D2H,D300,Nikkor 300mm f2.8,Nikkor 80-200 f2.8, Nikkor 24-70 AF-S f2.8,Nikkor 50 f1.8
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Troy, MI
D700/200, SB800(4), 70-200, 300 2.8 and a few more
www.sportsshooter.com/tjk60
Very nice I do like These but maby it's just me and don't have the patience. I feel I just miss a lot on pass plays and it drives me crazy!!
But I do like the ones you posted:D
Nikon D70,D2H,D300,Nikkor 300mm f2.8,Nikkor 80-200 f2.8, Nikkor 24-70 AF-S f2.8,Nikkor 50 f1.8
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It has been my experience that I miss a lot of short pass plays anyway with a 300mm prime. At the HS level the passes are just too fast and short to be able to acquire the target, regardless of flash, before the pass is complete. However, anything 15yds and over I have found very little difference in being able to snag a pass play with a flash, in some cases I even find that the AF assist fm the flash gives me a better shot at acquiring the shot.
That being said, I certainly would prefer to be able to grab a pass play without a flash, when the available lighting permits, just so I can get multiple shots of the event, not just one.
regards, Kevin
Canon 1DM4, 300mm 2.8, 70-200mm 2.8, 200mm 1.8, 24-70mm 2.8, 85mm 1.8
I haven't been here much this year, but I thought I'd add a photo of my homebake version of the monopod setup. Lead Acid Batteries are lead acid batteries wether you pay $20 or $200.
full res version
http://donek.smugmug.com/Other/flash-experiments/6016134_Z8jeE#997611862_8HACf-O-LB
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