Fujifilm intros FinePix X100

insanefredinsanefred Registered Users Posts: 604 Major grins
edited September 23, 2010 in Cameras
When I saw this...
http://www.finepix-x100.com/


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  • craig_dcraig_d Registered Users Posts: 911 Major grins
    edited September 19, 2010
    This is being discussed all over the place today. The finepix-x100.com web site is on its knees under the weight of millions of requests. It's a pretty little camera and it could be very cool. But from the images I've seen of it today, it looks to me like the camera is autofocus-only; the knurled ring on the lens appears to be for adjusting the aperture, not for manual focus. That and the non-interchangeable lens will probably dissuade me from buying one.
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  • WinsomeWorksWinsomeWorks Registered Users Posts: 1,935 Major grins
    edited September 19, 2010
    insanefred wrote: »
    When I saw this...
    http://www.finepix-x100.com/


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    I couldn't get through to the website. What's going on, exactly? There's some excitement about this whatever-it-is??!
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  • craig_dcraig_d Registered Users Posts: 911 Major grins
    edited September 19, 2010
    Do a Google search for "fuji x100" and you'll be able to keep yourself busy for hours reading about it. To make a long story short, it's a new digital camera (available early next year) that looks like it will be competition for the Leica X1. It is styled like a classic rangefinder camera, but is basically a modern large-sensor digital P&S (APS-C 1.5x format). It comes with a 23mm f/2 Fujinon lens (not interchangeable), so the field of view will be roughly equivalent to a 35mm lens on a full-frame camera. They don't seem to have announced a price yet. Probably not cheap.
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  • misterbmisterb Banned Posts: 601 Major grins
    edited September 19, 2010
    http://dpreview.com/news/1009/10091910fujifilmx100.asp
  • insanefredinsanefred Registered Users Posts: 604 Major grins
    edited September 19, 2010
    craig_d wrote: »
    This is being discussed all over the place today. The finepix-x100.com web site is on its knees under the weight of millions of requests. It's a pretty little camera and it could be very cool. But from the images I've seen of it today, it looks to me like the camera is autofocus-only; the knurled ring on the lens appears to be for adjusting the aperture, not for manual focus. That and the non-interchangeable lens will probably dissuade me from buying one.

    I wounder what those knobs on the side of the lens is for?
    http://www.fujifilm.com/photokina2010/images/finepix_x100.jpg
  • craig_dcraig_d Registered Users Posts: 911 Major grins
    edited September 19, 2010
    insanefred wrote: »
    I wounder what those knobs on the side of the lens is for?
    http://www.fujifilm.com/photokina2010/images/finepix_x100.jpg

    Good question. It's hard to be sure, but looking closely, those wide projections may be textured for gripping. I suppose it's possible that those are for adjusting aperture, in which case the knurled ring would probably be for manual focusing. We'll have to wait for more information to be sure. If manual focus is supported, my next question will be whether it's real mechanical manual focusing, or fly-by-wire like the 4/3 lenses.
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  • OverfocusedOverfocused Registered Users Posts: 1,068 Major grins
    edited September 19, 2010
    insanefred wrote: »
    I wounder what those knobs on the side of the lens is for?
    http://www.fujifilm.com/photokina2010/images/finepix_x100.jpg


    Aperture ring?

    Eww, manual focus isn't listed as a feature at dpreview... is this an omission, or a mistake by Fuji? The 2/3 is amazing but no manual focus is a deal breaker for me
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  • InsuredDisasterInsuredDisaster Registered Users Posts: 1,132 Major grins
    edited September 20, 2010
    Hmmm, my wife wants a new point and shoot. Think I could convince her that this is what she really wants?
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  • craig_dcraig_d Registered Users Posts: 911 Major grins
    edited September 20, 2010
    richy wrote: »
    They lost me at fixed lens, otherwise a great camera. It wouldnt have killed them to make a couple more primes and make them interchangeable.

    Actually that's a pretty big deal because you have to define mechanical and electrical standards for how the lens connects to the camera, whether the AF motor and IS are in the body or the lens, etc. -- and you have to be sure that the standards are adequate to support a wide range of lenses. For a fixed-lens camera you just have to make it work.
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  • Ric GrupeRic Grupe Registered Users Posts: 9,522 Major grins
    edited September 20, 2010
    Fujifilm intros FinePix X100
    I love the looks of this! Hope it doesn't end up costing too much.

    EDIT: I see this was moved....I tend to ignor titles with "crap" in them...so I missed it.
  • ZanottiZanotti Registered Users Posts: 1,411 Major grins
    edited September 20, 2010
    A couple forums peg it at $1500!

    I think the Canon S95 is a better value.

    Fixed lens is also an issue, do you really want a 35mm lens all the time?

    Reminds me of the Sigma DP2 - not really a blockbuster success.

    Pretty, though!

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  • Ric GrupeRic Grupe Registered Users Posts: 9,522 Major grins
    edited September 20, 2010
    Zanotti wrote: »
    A couple forums peg it at $1500!

    I think the Canon S95 is a better value.

    Fixed lens is also an issue, do you really want a 35mm lens all the time?

    Reminds me of the Sigma DP2 - not really a blockbuster success.

    Pretty, though!

    Z

    I could live with the fixed lens...but not at that price for what I would use it for...fun. If it is say $600 or less...I'll have one.
  • r3t1awr3ydr3t1awr3yd Registered Users Posts: 1,000 Major grins
    edited September 20, 2010
    Ric Grupe wrote: »
    I could live with the fixed lens...but not at that price for what I would use it for...fun. If it is say $600 or less...I'll have one.
    I'm in this boat. I love AF cus I'm blind (I have no idea what all you MF people are yelling about lol). I also don't mind the fixed lens part. I want a p/s to be the furthest thing from my SLR as possible.
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  • craig_dcraig_d Registered Users Posts: 911 Major grins
    edited September 20, 2010
    A heartfelt THANK YOU to whatever passing moderator changed the unfortunate title of this discussion... thumb.gif

    I have to agree with Ric. At $600 this would be an interesting package. Unfortunately it will probably be at least double that, if not triple. Now that I'm used to paying $200 or less for fully-functional vintage film cameras with lenses, the idea of paying $1200+ for a digital camera that will be obsolete within five years, and probably dead and unrepairable within ten to fifteen years, is starting to seem a bit silly to me. I was out shooting this morning with a 1957 Konica III rangefinder loaded with Ilford FP4+. Will the X100 still be usable in 2063? I doubt it.
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  • Ric GrupeRic Grupe Registered Users Posts: 9,522 Major grins
    edited September 20, 2010
    craig_d wrote: »
    Will the X100 still be usable in 2063? I doubt it.

    We'll discuss it then! I'll be 114! :D
  • colourboxcolourbox Registered Users Posts: 2,095 Major grins
    edited September 20, 2010
    Zanotti wrote: »
    Fixed lens is also an issue, do you really want a 35mm lens all the time?

    On an APS-C sensor, sure. I own a couple really expensive zooms for my Canon 7D SLR, but the most fun I've had with it lately have been when I leave the fast, affordable 35mm prime on it (35mm in APS-C is roughly equal to the standard 50mm that came with film SLRs for decades). This has taught me that I could live with a compact camera with nothing but a normal equivalent lens...as long as it's fast and has decent bokeh. If the x100 has that kind of lens and is well under $1000, I might take a look at it.
  • Ric GrupeRic Grupe Registered Users Posts: 9,522 Major grins
    edited September 20, 2010
    colourbox wrote: »
    If the x100 has that kind of lens and is well under $1000, I might take a look at it.

    thumb.gif

    Let's hope the they are reading this.

    Looks like a simple elegant camera to me.
  • OverfocusedOverfocused Registered Users Posts: 1,068 Major grins
    edited September 20, 2010
    For $1500 I'd rather have a 4/3 system
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  • misterbmisterb Banned Posts: 601 Major grins
    edited September 20, 2010
    Olympus strikes back...

    http://www.dpreview.com/news/1009/10092010olyzuikolenscompact.asp

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  • CSGCSG Registered Users Posts: 4 Beginner grinner
    edited September 20, 2010
    That's not striking back. All Oly or Panasonic need to do is put a rangefinder in the EP or GF1. In other words give Leica something to think about.

    The problem with the Fuji is the fixed lens and a somewhat odd choice of 35mm equivalent. I know there's a certain love of a 35mm for street shooting but a 45-50mm is probably more generally useful as an all-around lens IMO. On the other hand, the VF looks really great!

    What photographers like me want is an affordable M9. Failing a full frame RF give us an APS or M4/3.
  • Ric GrupeRic Grupe Registered Users Posts: 9,522 Major grins
    edited September 21, 2010
    Fujifilm's FinePix X100 ships March 2011
    Ric Grupe wrote: »
    I love the looks of this! Hope it doesn't end up costing too much.

    Fujifilm's FinePix X100 ships March 2011



    $1000. :cry
  • craig_dcraig_d Registered Users Posts: 911 Major grins
    edited September 21, 2010
    Actual street prices can be expected to be somewhat less than that, right? Though the actual street price will depend on supply and demand.
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  • NikonsandVstromsNikonsandVstroms Registered Users Posts: 990 Major grins
    edited September 21, 2010
    Zanotti wrote: »
    A couple forums peg it at $1500!

    I think the Canon S95 is a better value.

    Fixed lens is also an issue, do you really want a 35mm lens all the time?

    Reminds me of the Sigma DP2 - not really a blockbuster success.

    Pretty, though!

    Z

    The S95's sensor is tiny though and wont come anywhere near the performance of this camera. Plus that viewfinder is really interesting.
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  • PindyPindy Registered Users Posts: 1,089 Major grins
    edited September 22, 2010
    Yes, it certainly IS a sexy beast. At this point, the only thing I can find wrong with it is the (apparent) lack of manual focusing. If it's anything like the E-P1, then it's probably not for me.
  • insanefredinsanefred Registered Users Posts: 604 Major grins
    edited September 23, 2010
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOqsDVuxT2s&feature=player_embedded

    Check out 1:30...
    looks like those knobs on the side of the lens are for the aperture ring. That should mean the knurling that we see on the lens is for manual focusing.
  • misterbmisterb Banned Posts: 601 Major grins
    edited September 23, 2010
    insanefred wrote: »
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOqsDVuxT2s&feature=player_embedded

    Check out 1:30...
    looks like those knobs on the side of the lens are for the aperture ring. That should mean the knurling that we see on the lens is for manual focusing.

    http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/camera/specification/2690/show.html

    Chart shows manual focus.. :D
  • Ric GrupeRic Grupe Registered Users Posts: 9,522 Major grins
    edited September 23, 2010
    misterb wrote: »
    http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/camera/specification/2690/show.html

    Chart shows manual focus.. :D

    I think we'll have to wait and see what they make...that chart says no optical viewfinder which the video clearly indicates that there is.
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