CS5, Dye & a Slice

misterbmisterb Banned Posts: 601 Major grins
edited September 25, 2010 in Street and Documentary
Can't sleep.. so it's time to play around with CS5 and a photo..
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  • lizzard_nyclizzard_nyc Registered Users Posts: 4,056 Major grins
    edited September 23, 2010
    Ok...
    i'll bite--why the selective coloring?
    What is the reason for using it, and what are you trying to call attention to in the shot? Sure she has a nice smile, but why do I need to look at the pizza or her hair? Do those elements tell me anything?

    It might be an ok street portrait maybe, without those elements. As it is, it does not work for me ok? ok.
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  • misterbmisterb Banned Posts: 601 Major grins
    edited September 23, 2010
    Ahhh- I was just messing around with selective desaturating and such in PS5.. those are the actual colors, the rest was just changed to B&W.

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    Here's the link to how it was done.. actually some good info on youtube! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9TTHad_RxU
  • RichardRichard Administrators, Vanilla Admin Posts: 19,961 moderator
    edited September 23, 2010
    I much prefer the original. I completely missed Frankenstein and his wife in the background in the SC version. rolleyes1.gif
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  • misterbmisterb Banned Posts: 601 Major grins
    edited September 23, 2010
    Richard wrote: »
    I much prefer the original. I completely missed Frankenstein and his wife in the background in the SC version. rolleyes1.gif

    You mean the greenish hands??? ha ha ha.. I missed that. :D
  • misterbmisterb Banned Posts: 601 Major grins
    edited September 23, 2010
    lizzard_nyc wrote: »
    Ok...
    i'll bite--why the selective coloring?

    Who wants black & white constantly.. I like artistic shots/creative pp.

    This shot was just a practice.. won't go in my galleries.

    I was going through Patti's galleries and noticed she did a few of the selective desaturation with bright red on a few of her shots.

    I hope she doesn't mind my reposting.. her's are wayyyy better! clap.gif

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  • RichardRichard Administrators, Vanilla Admin Posts: 19,961 moderator
    edited September 23, 2010
    Patti--you've been outed. eek7.gifrolleyes1.gif
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  • bfjrbfjr Registered Users Posts: 10,980 Major grins
    edited September 23, 2010
    "Selective Color" oh dear oh dear aren't those fightin words !! rolleyes1.gifrolleyes1.gif

    I will admit to finding the feet, sexy :wow
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  • lizzard_nyclizzard_nyc Registered Users Posts: 4,056 Major grins
    edited September 23, 2010
    bfjr wrote: »
    "Selective Color" oh dear oh dear aren't those fightin words !! rolleyes1.gifrolleyes1.gif

    I will admit to finding the feet, sexy :wow

    Oh I'm dying here rolleyes1.gif. Patti outed!!! :)

    As I scrolled down before reading your words I was going to say that selective coloring can be gimmicky--then I noted the shoes and said to myself "although I do like the red shoes". Then I saw that it was Patti's :D.

    I think it rarely works. I guess it didn't work on yours, though I applaud you for trying something new to you.
    Her conversion rocks also. I think alot of times people do selective coloring and only work on the color part and don't fix the rest.

    I have a horrible horrendous color selective shot in my gallery myself (I mean it's sooooo bad, but I can't bring myself to delete it--but I will when I get home in case a potential client should see it), I guess we all gotta try it--we just don't post it rolleyes1.gif.
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  • misterbmisterb Banned Posts: 601 Major grins
    edited September 23, 2010
    lizzard_nyc wrote: »
    I think it rarely works.

    Here's two shot's from Schindlers list that I think worked:

    SCHINDLERS_LIST-12.jpg

    SCHINDLERS_LIST-19.jpg
  • RichardRichard Administrators, Vanilla Admin Posts: 19,961 moderator
    edited September 23, 2010
    Well, yeah, and people have been copying it ever since. The key word is rarely. Doesn't mean never, just means you need to have a pretty compelling reason to use it or you will face the wrath of ten thousand photographers who think it's a cliché. The main problem with it is that it usually calls too much attention to itself. In your pic, the selective color made me miss the hands altogether, not because I couldn't see their color. Now you would be right in pointing out that if I had been paying more attention I would have seen them, but the selective color treatment you used drew all my (limited) attention to the hair and the pizza.
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  • misterbmisterb Banned Posts: 601 Major grins
    edited September 23, 2010
    Here's a beautiful and *delicious* use of selective color..

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  • misterbmisterb Banned Posts: 601 Major grins
    edited September 23, 2010
    Richard wrote: »
    Well, yeah, and people have been copying it ever since. The key word is rarely. Doesn't mean never, just means you need to have a pretty compelling reason to use it or you will face the wrath of ten thousand photographers who think it's a cliché. The main problem with it is that it usually calls too much attention to itself. In your pic, the selective color made me miss the hands altogether, not because I couldn't see their color. Now you would be right in pointing out that if I had been paying more attention I would have seen them, but the selective color treatment you used drew all my (limited) attention to the hair and the pizza.

    The hair and pizza is what caught my eye and made me take the shot.

    My example wasn't the best example.. like I said- it was simply an exercise to use this technique, and my first attempt.

    First attempts are funny.. like do you remember your first real kiss? iloveyou.gif
  • lizzard_nyclizzard_nyc Registered Users Posts: 4,056 Major grins
    edited September 23, 2010
    misterb wrote: »
    Here's two shot's from Schindlers list that I think worked:

    SCHINDLERS_LIST-12.jpg

    SCHINDLERS_LIST-19.jpg


    I can't see the shots for some reason--little red xs on my computer. But it has to be the little girl in the red coat right? It helped to tell a story and it made her stand out, the director had reasons for wanting her to stand out.

    Like I said "rarely" works.
    Don't like the strawberry shot either. So maybe we just have different tastes.

    And yes I do remember my first kiss--all braces and sweetness.
    Liz A.
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  • misterbmisterb Banned Posts: 601 Major grins
    edited September 23, 2010
    lizzard_nyc wrote: »
    And yes I do remember my first kiss--all braces and sweetness.

    Was it perfect? :smooch Or did you, umm.. get better as time went on?

    That's what I was getting at. :D
  • travischancetravischance Registered Users Posts: 642 Major grins
    edited September 24, 2010
    misterb wrote: »
    Who wants black & white constantly.. I like artistic shots/creative pp.

    This shot was just a practice.. won't go in my galleries.

    I was going through Patti's galleries and noticed she did a few of the selective desaturation with bright red on a few of her shots.

    I hope she doesn't mind my reposting.. her's are wayyyy better! clap.gif

    The second shot of the womans shoes out the window looks pretty good.
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  • indiegirlindiegirl Registered Users Posts: 930 Major grins
    edited September 24, 2010
    selective color only works in schlinder's list. Not in real life.
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  • misterbmisterb Banned Posts: 601 Major grins
    edited September 24, 2010
    indiegirl wrote: »
    selective color only works in schlinder's list. Not in real life.

    You are wrong.. so wrong.

    The reason I beg to differ is that there are tons of excellent shots out there:

    http://smashinghub.com/25-beautiful-selective-color-photos.htm

    Of the 25 in the above thread, I see at least 10-15 keepers.

    If you see nothing that's appealing, your eyes need anti-depressants.

    While were at it, it's surprising what gets put up at galleries:

    http://andresserrano.org/
  • indiegirlindiegirl Registered Users Posts: 930 Major grins
    edited September 24, 2010
    Wait--are we talking about what gets put in galleries or the shot you've posted here?
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  • PattiPatti Registered Users Posts: 1,576 Major grins
    edited September 24, 2010
    Richard wrote: »
    Patti--you've been outed. eek7.gifrolleyes1.gif
    lizzard_nyc wrote: »
    Oh I'm dying here rolleyes1.gif. Patti outed!!! :)

    As I scrolled down before reading your words I was going to say that selective coloring can be gimmicky--then I noted the shoes and said to myself "although I do like the red shoes". Then I saw that it was Patti's :D.

    I think it rarely works. I guess it didn't work on yours, though I applaud you for trying something new to you.
    Her conversion rocks also. I think alot of times people do selective coloring and only work on the color part and don't fix the rest.

    I have a horrible horrendous color selective shot in my gallery myself (I mean it's sooooo bad, but I can't bring myself to delete it--but I will when I get home in case a potential client should see it), I guess we all gotta try it--we just don't post it rolleyes1.gif.


    rolleyes1.gifwink I'm outa the closet!! I have, on a very few occassions done a selective colour shot but you will notice that they have NEVER been posted here. I may be crazy but I'm not stupid ( no offense MisterB but I know the feelings here about selective colour and generally, I don't like them either).

    My friend's daughter's shoes were just screaming at me to do it. She and her mum love the shot so for them it works. The Red Rider shot is the first I ever tried.
    If you feel I must be excumunicated from the forum I will understand (hair shirt is on and I've put pebbles in my shoes for penance) bowdown.gifbowbowdown.gif
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  • PattiPatti Registered Users Posts: 1,576 Major grins
    edited September 24, 2010
    misterb wrote: »
    You are wrong.. so wrong.

    The reason I beg to differ is that there are tons of excellent shots out there:

    http://smashinghub.com/25-beautiful-selective-color-photos.htm

    Of the 25 in the above thread, I see at least 10-15 keepers.

    If you see nothing that's appealing, your eyes need anti-depressants.

    While were at it, it's surprising what gets put up at galleries:

    http://andresserrano.org/


    The only ones that I find tolerable are

    young girl with the umbrella

    earth marble in the hand

    The rest look really tacky & overdone to my taste but that's just me. I've seen a few where the reflection only is in colour and they've been a bit interesting. One thing I absolutely detest are selectively coloured wedding shots. They REALLY look gimmicky and tacky to me. Just my 2 cents.
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  • RichardRichard Administrators, Vanilla Admin Posts: 19,961 moderator
    edited September 24, 2010
    Patti wrote: »
    If you feel I must be excumunicated from the forum I will understand (hair shirt is on and I've put pebbles in my shoes for penance) bowdown.gifbowbowdown.gif

    lol3.gif Hey, I took some knocks myself for one I posted last year. You're just lucky Rutt isn't around. mwink.gif
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  • PattiPatti Registered Users Posts: 1,576 Major grins
    edited September 24, 2010
    Richard wrote: »
    lol3.gif Hey, I took some knocks myself for one I posted last year. You're just lucky Rutt isn't around. mwink.gif


    SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH or he'll hear you!!! :tiptoe:whew
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    ... I'm still peeling potatoes.

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  • misterbmisterb Banned Posts: 601 Major grins
    edited September 24, 2010
    indiegirl wrote: »
    Wait--are we talking about what gets put in galleries or the shot you've posted here?

    I'm not talking about my shot- which was a first attempt at selective color, and the actual first usage of CS5.

    I'm disputing your blanket statement that selective color "only works in Shindlers List"- which is a faulty statement.

    Clearly there are many examples of selective color the DO work quite well, and you are simply giving your narrow opinion/personal preference.

    Just like Hot Dogs -or- Hamburgers.. whatever floats your boat.
  • lizzard_nyclizzard_nyc Registered Users Posts: 4,056 Major grins
    edited September 24, 2010
    Richard wrote: »
    lol3.gif Hey, I took some knocks myself for one I posted last year. You're just lucky Rutt isn't around. mwink.gif


    I remember this one! and I almost brought it up in the conversation as one of those rare times that it works. I thought it worked, Rutt thought otherwise :).

    Here is my attempt at selective coloring.
    http://lizzardnyc.smugmug.com/Other/Andy-and-Sofia/10504968_mFxdM#729250588_toWC9-A-LB

    I figure you can all use a belly laugh and tears streaming down your face.
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  • misterbmisterb Banned Posts: 601 Major grins
    edited September 24, 2010
    Patti wrote: »
    rolleyes1.gifwink I'm outa the closet!! I have, on a very few occassions done a selective colour shot but you will notice that they have NEVER been posted here. I may be crazy but I'm not stupid ( no offense MisterB but I know the feelings here about selective colour and generally, I don't like them either).

    My friend's daughter's shoes were just screaming at me to do it. She and her mum love the shot so for them it works. The Red Rider shot is the first I ever tried.
    If you feel I must be excumunicated from the forum I will understand (hair shirt is on and I've put pebbles in my shoes for penance) bowdown.gifbowbowdown.gif

    Ha ha ha.. well I'm sorry I opened Pandora's Box! :D

    I like the usage of selective color.. despite this forums prevailing mindset of "If it ain't grainy, gritty, and from the city- it's shitty!"
  • misterbmisterb Banned Posts: 601 Major grins
    edited September 24, 2010
    Richard wrote: »
    lol3.gif Hey, I took some knocks myself for one I posted last year. You're just lucky Rutt isn't around. mwink.gif

    I like that- but I'm a non-conformist. :D
  • misterbmisterb Banned Posts: 601 Major grins
    edited September 24, 2010
    lizzard_nyc wrote: »
    I remember this one! and I almost brought it up in the conversation as one of those rare times that it works. I thought it worked, Rutt thought otherwise :).

    Here is my attempt at selective coloring.
    http://lizzardnyc.smugmug.com/Other/Andy-and-Sofia/10504968_mFxdM#729250588_toWC9-A-LB

    I figure you can all use a belly laugh and tears streaming down your face.

    Actually.. that's pretty nice, too.

    Then again- I like Bull Dogs playing poker on black velvet..
  • lizzard_nyclizzard_nyc Registered Users Posts: 4,056 Major grins
    edited September 24, 2010
    misterb wrote: »
    Actually.. that's pretty nice, too.

    Then again- I like Bull Dogs playing poker on black velvet..


    rolleyes1.gifenough said :)
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  • KennySKennyS Registered Users Posts: 85 Big grins
    edited September 24, 2010
    "If it ain't grainy, gritty, and from the city- it's shitty!"
    Lol nice!
    Then again- I like Bull Dogs playing poker on black velvet..
    That's fine art! What's wrong with that?:D
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  • PattiPatti Registered Users Posts: 1,576 Major grins
    edited September 24, 2010
    misterb wrote: »
    "If it ain't grainy, gritty, and from the city- it's shitty!"


    Which takes us back to the other link you posted of that abstract scupture of pooh rolleyes1.gif
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    ... I'm still peeling potatoes.

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