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Nikon Grumble
Icebear
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Every time I make a new "discovery" regarding Nikon software, it's something else to piss me off. My latest find is that Nikon View NX will not show your focus point if you convert your NEF files to DNG. Oh, wait . . . it won't show your DNG file AT ALL and won't show the focus point on tiffs produced from DNGs. Nikon, you make great cameras, but your software marketing people SUCK.
"Oh, you bought our latest and greatest D700? Oh thank you very much, but now your Capture NX (that you bought after Capture wouldn't work with your D300) won't work with your new camera." "What's that you say? You want us to just let you download a software update so it will?? Oh, no. You'll need to BUY our new Capture NX2. Upgrade price? No, no, no, you have to pay full price." You should be ashamed.
"Oh, you bought our latest and greatest D700? Oh thank you very much, but now your Capture NX (that you bought after Capture wouldn't work with your D300) won't work with your new camera." "What's that you say? You want us to just let you download a software update so it will?? Oh, no. You'll need to BUY our new Capture NX2. Upgrade price? No, no, no, you have to pay full price." You should be ashamed.
John :
Natural selection is responsible for every living thing that exists.
D3s, D500, D5300, and way more glass than the wife knows about.
Natural selection is responsible for every living thing that exists.
D3s, D500, D5300, and way more glass than the wife knows about.
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its a piece of crap
even most freeware app's are better
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I'm really impressed that you are still making discoveries in Nikon's software advancements. Somewhere along the line you musta found something you liked. I never did.
And now owning both Canon and Nikon eq. I can say all the hoopla about Canon's included software is well placed!
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yep, its about as crappy as the Nikon software! If you have photoshop or lightroom, then there isnt much need for it, or reason to use it.
You can do most basic edits to your photos with the software, but it is more like getting you started software if your new to a slr or photography, and dont yet have anything better
You didn't mention tethered shooting...and with so many folks not really knowin how to or what to adjust in RAW files much less what software to then purchase, I think adding that kind of software in the box is awesome!
You'd think they could throw it in with the higher end bodies. Heck, Leica includes a license for LR with their serious cameras, and lots of companies throw in PSE. Nikon's greedy.
Natural selection is responsible for every living thing that exists.
D3s, D500, D5300, and way more glass than the wife knows about.
they should give it free , with purchase of camera
giving trial-versions is fake , sort of like advertising
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Yeah...and what I intended by my commentary on the Canon piece is....
It comes with tethered Shooting Software!
I have Nikon cam control pro...no worky on 64 bit machines! And I'll be damned if I'll buy it again!
oops , works fine on windows7 64bit
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Capture One 5 Pro..
I am a long time user of NX2, View NX... I switched and I am very happy.
You have LR3, and CS5. What are you looking for or expecting in the Nikon software that you don't have in these two programs?
Sam
1: focus point visibility (no big thing)
2: ability to control the camera from the laptop, not just fire the shutter (big thing)
Natural selection is responsible for every living thing that exists.
D3s, D500, D5300, and way more glass than the wife knows about.
My bad!! It won't work with my D700.
Actually ( and thanks to basfit) I got CCPro2 working with both my D700 And my Computer.
All it took was a search, and a back-date from Nikon-Eu. Nice~
True, there are other solutions. The freeware EXIF viewer PhotoME will display this info.
It is even possible to show the Nikon (and maybe Canon) focus points in CS4/5. It takes some work but I have prototyped a script to do it so I do know it's possible.
Thanks for the tip on PhotoMe. I've been using Opanda IExif for a while and like it. PhotoMe seems a bit "feature-richer."
Neither will show the focus point on a DNG or a TIFF or JPG created from a DNG. Once you convert the NEF to DNG, the focus point is gone. This is a minor irritant at worst. I still will continue to convert everything to DNG on import. And no, I don't keep the NEF file somewhere else. Some things can be taken to extremes.
Natural selection is responsible for every living thing that exists.
D3s, D500, D5300, and way more glass than the wife knows about.
PhotoME is great, IMO. Be sure to check out the "Find filter"; it makes finding a specific item a snap.
I'm not sure what's going on with the focus point meta data and Adobe/DNG. PhotoME displays the focus point on JPEG's converted with Capture NX (not with CS4/5). I guess should look into that at some point.
However, these is a fundamental issue with the focus point data once the original camera image has been touched by other software. Many/most programs implement auto-rotation based on the EXIF Orientation data. Once the image has been rotated, they generally reset the orientation data so that the image doesn't get rotated again and again. Once the orientation data has been cleared, it's not possible to unambiguously interpret the focus point data :-( Think about a portrait shot taken using one of the focus points at the top of the frame (nearest the popup flash). Is that on the left or right of the rotated image? There's no way to tell from the EXIF. You might be able to make a good guess based on the photographer's habits, but that's about it!
Thanks,
Yes, and no. Not sure about the other custom settings, unless you mean D-lighting and so forth, which your D70s doesn't have and LR cannot do.
LR3 is a terrific upgrade for you and your camera. You can get a trial version by signing-up at the Adobe Website. trial it and decide! Basically you could shoot an entire CF card with WB off and change said WB for the entire group with one click once selected. And of course it does individual shots just as easily. WB is only the beginning though, it will allow you to get very creative with tones, colors, light and lighting, adding shadow and light where-ever you'd like it.
Also if you like it, you might want to keep an eye on SmugMug Pro's FB page. They gave away three copies just two weeks ago.
Natural selection is responsible for every living thing that exists.
D3s, D500, D5300, and way more glass than the wife knows about.
Camera Control has nothing to do with View / Capture
they can work independently from each other
Nikon Camera Control is good
Nikon View / Capture is lousy
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Of course. I agree, CC Pro2 is a nice program. But one of CC's options is to open a captured image directly in View, so they DO have some interface, which could be useful if someone did not have LR.
The intent of my last post post was to compare LR3's Tethered Capture feature with CameraControl.
The intent of the thread was to bitch about Nikon's approach to software in general. I think I've had to buy Camera Control, Camera Control Pro, and now Camera Control Pro 2, just so my newer cameras will work with the program. That pisses me off. Nikon is prolly laughing 'cause they suckered me into buying the same program three times. Pure profit.
Natural selection is responsible for every living thing that exists.
D3s, D500, D5300, and way more glass than the wife knows about.
But yes I'm certainly upgrading software to. LR3 will most likely win
Thanks Tom and everyone for the advice.