Flashless Night Football

JacobovsJacobovs Registered Users Posts: 491 Major grins
edited October 6, 2010 in Sports
The lighting was bad but the D3s go some shots. iso 6400 and 8000

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Any CC is always welcome:D

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  • JSPhotographyJSPhotography Registered Users Posts: 552 Major grins
    edited September 27, 2010
    WOW, the things a 400 x 2.8 can do. Very cool
  • firewirefirewire Registered Users Posts: 32 Big grins
    edited September 27, 2010
    Very nice!
  • JacobovsJacobovs Registered Users Posts: 491 Major grins
    edited September 28, 2010
    WOW, the things a 400 x 2.8 can do. Very cool

    Thanks, I think it's the D3s myself, I've shot with the 400 f2.8 with the D3 and not seen results this good.
  • GringriffGringriff Registered Users Posts: 340 Major grins
    edited September 28, 2010
    Outstanding!
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  • offcamberoffcamber Registered Users Posts: 43 Big grins
    edited September 28, 2010
    I shot high school football for the first time over the last couple of weeks. Lots of fun as I don't normally shoot team sports. 7D with 100-400F4.5L and 70-200F2.8L IS

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  • Adobe_AndrewAdobe_Andrew Registered Users Posts: 14 Big grins
    edited September 28, 2010
    Nice shots. Really captures the action and essence of the game.
  • TdcomptonTdcompton Registered Users Posts: 212 Major grins
    edited September 29, 2010
  • TangoJulietTangoJuliet Registered Users Posts: 269 Major grins
    edited September 30, 2010
    offcamber wrote: »
    I shot high school football for the first time over the last couple of weeks. Lots of fun as I don't normally shoot team sports. 7D with 100-400F4.5L and 70-200F2.8L IS

    What ISO were you using? I've got the 7D and I'm renting the 70-200 2.8L for a few days for another purpose, but wanted to try some local HS Football games next Friday night for an NYIP assignment. I'd love to own the new 70-200 f2.8L IS II, but it's just not in the budget, renting works, for now.
  • offcamberoffcamber Registered Users Posts: 43 Big grins
    edited September 30, 2010
    Most of those were at ISO6400. I shot some at 3200 that night but most of the action stuff was shot at 6400...


    What ISO were you using? I've got the 7D and I'm renting the 70-200 2.8L for a few days for another purpose, but wanted to try some local HS Football games next Friday night for an NYIP assignment. I'd love to own the new 70-200 f2.8L IS II, but it's just not in the budget, renting works, for now.
  • toragstorags Registered Users Posts: 4,615 Major grins
    edited September 30, 2010
    offcamber wrote: »
    Most of those were at ISO6400. I shot some at 3200 that night but most of the action stuff was shot at 6400...

    Nice shots.

    It might be a good idea to post a link if you have a few snaps or start a new thread. Some might call this a thread hijack.

    Rags
    Rags
  • offcamberoffcamber Registered Users Posts: 43 Big grins
    edited September 30, 2010
    Seriously? Honestly, never really posted on Dgrin before, but if that's the way it works here, I guess maybe I'll stick to my normal forums. Normally posting pictures in a thread about the same subject wouldn't be considered a hijack everywhere else I've ever posted.
    torags wrote: »
    Nice shots.

    It might be a good idea to post a link if you have a few snaps or start a new thread. Some might call this a thread hijack.

    Rags
  • QarikQarik Registered Users Posts: 4,959 Major grins
    edited September 30, 2010
    offcamber wrote: »
    Seriously? Honestly, never really posted on Dgrin before, but if that's the way it works here, I guess maybe I'll stick to my normal forums. Normally posting pictures in a thread about the same subject wouldn't be considered a hijack everywhere else I've ever posted.

    not picking a fight and please continue posting here...you have some great shots...but just look what happened. Now folks are commenting on your shots instead of the OP..that's all.mwink.gif
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  • QarikQarik Registered Users Posts: 4,959 Major grins
    edited September 30, 2010
    dear lord..that D3s..

    be honest though..the stadium was enclosed in a giant soft box wasn't it?
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  • offcamberoffcamber Registered Users Posts: 43 Big grins
    edited September 30, 2010
    I assumed the comments were just on all of the shots, not necessarily mine. Seriously, if thats bad etiquette, here I'll pull them down. Some boards would have had an issue with me creating another thread with similiar shots to an existing thread...
    Qarik wrote: »
    not picking a fight and please continue posting here...you have some great shots...but just look what happened. Now folks are commenting on your shots instead of the OP..that's all.mwink.gif
  • JacobovsJacobovs Registered Users Posts: 491 Major grins
    edited September 30, 2010
    Qarik wrote: »
    dear lord..that D3s..

    be honest though..the stadium was enclosed in a giant soft box wasn't it?

    Unfortunately not, there are only 4 small light banks and no lighting at all in the endzones ( would be nice though )
  • TangoJulietTangoJuliet Registered Users Posts: 269 Major grins
    edited October 1, 2010
    Jacobovs wrote: »
    Unfortunately not, there are only 4 small light banks and no lighting at all in the endzones ( would be nice though )

    That's too bad. You'd think with all the money they spent on that fake grass, they would have it all lit up like a Pro stadium too.
  • action-picsaction-pics Registered Users Posts: 31 Big grins
    edited October 1, 2010
    Jacob, the colors look pretty good for those high of ISO.
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  • offcamberoffcamber Registered Users Posts: 43 Big grins
    edited October 1, 2010
    It's amazing that from a distance the stadiums look well lit. When you get down onto the field though and start shooting action you realize that there isn't as much light as you thought.

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  • b08rsab08rsa Registered Users Posts: 216 Major grins
    edited October 1, 2010
    I am jealous, my Oly 510 only shoots at 1600 ISO. I have been thinking on something different but have not really started to research a better camera that shoots good at night.
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  • jpcjpc Registered Users Posts: 840 Major grins
    edited October 1, 2010
    offcamber wrote: »
    Seriously? Honestly, never really posted on Dgrin before, but if that's the way it works here, I guess maybe I'll stick to my normal forums. Normally posting pictures in a thread about the same subject wouldn't be considered a hijack everywhere else I've ever posted.

    I'm actually glad you thread-jacked, because we get to see the D3S crush the 7D.
  • toragstorags Registered Users Posts: 4,615 Major grins
    edited October 1, 2010
    Jacobovs wrote: »
    Unfortunately not, there are only 4 small light banks and no lighting at all in the endzones ( would be nice though )

    You might like to look into this Better Beemer flash attachment for longer lenses.

    This guy morris does real good with birds (Off setting dynamic range) My SB800 is supposed to be OK upto 100' (which doesn't mean much with a 400mm)

    http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/941721/0#lastmessage
    Rags
  • johngjohng Registered Users Posts: 1,658 Major grins
    edited October 1, 2010
    jpc wrote: »
    I'm actually glad you thread-jacked, because we get to see the D3S crush the 7D.

    One of the nice things about dgrin is the lack of this type of thing. Let's keep the gear snobbery away from the sports forum here. Stick to the images and technique and leave the 'my system is better than your system' stuff for other places.

    as far as hijacking, every forum is different. Unlike other forums, the sports forum here at dgrin actively provides critique and feedback. So, it's always good to start a new thread with your own photos unless you're using a photo of your own to demonstrate advice. So, offcamber, please stick around - but next time just start a new thread. That way each thread starter gets the benefit of peoples' feedback.
  • offcamberoffcamber Registered Users Posts: 43 Big grins
    edited October 1, 2010
    Laughing.gif..no offense, but I don't see much difference noise wise in these shots and I paid $1500 for my 7D as opposed to what, about $4500 for the D3s?
    jpc wrote: »
    I'm actually glad you thread-jacked, because we get to see the D3S crush the 7D.
  • JacobovsJacobovs Registered Users Posts: 491 Major grins
    edited October 2, 2010
    offcamber wrote: »
    Laughing.gif..no offense, but I don't see much difference noise wise in these shots and I paid $1500 for my 7D as opposed to what, about $4500 for the D3s?

    You have to appreciate that the conditions were not the same so it's hard to compare. There are probably more scientific comparisons somewhere.:D
  • offcamberoffcamber Registered Users Posts: 43 Big grins
    edited October 2, 2010
    Jacobovs wrote: »
    You have to appreciate that the conditions were not the same so it's hard to compare. There are probably more scientific comparisons somewhere.:D


    How were the conditions that different? Shooting at night in poor light. The only way I could keep my shutter speed up was by shooting at ISO6400 and 12,800. Seems pretty apple to apple to me.

    And BTW, i'm not saying that the 7d matches up to the D3S, just that in this situation there isn't a lot of difference..
  • jpcjpc Registered Users Posts: 840 Major grins
    edited October 2, 2010
    offcamber wrote: »
    Laughing.gif..no offense, but I don't see much difference noise wise in these shots and I paid $1500 for my 7D as opposed to what, about $4500 for the D3s?

    It's not just about low noise. It's also about the detail that the D3s is able to retain at 6400. That's why it's so amazing. And I think you're right about the situations being similar. The OP was just being nice.
  • QarikQarik Registered Users Posts: 4,959 Major grins
    edited October 3, 2010
    Jacobovs wrote: »
    You have to appreciate that the conditions were not the same so it's hard to compare. There are probably more scientific comparisons somewhere.:D

    *shrugs* I see quite a bit of difference.
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  • JacobovsJacobovs Registered Users Posts: 491 Major grins
    edited October 5, 2010
    Qarik wrote: »
    *shrugs* I see quite a bit of difference.

    It's also probably hard to see the detail difference of the web sized shots.ne_nau.gif
  • jpcjpc Registered Users Posts: 840 Major grins
    edited October 6, 2010
    Jacobovs wrote: »
    It's also probably hard to see the detail difference of the web sized shots.ne_nau.gif

    No, actually, it's not. Stop being nice! Look at their eyes.
  • jmphotocraftjmphotocraft Registered Users Posts: 2,987 Major grins
    edited October 6, 2010
    I own a 7D and I have to say the D3s certainly did out-perform it in this comparison. As it should, for the 300% price premium. No surprise here. Noise-wise, the 7D did pretty well, but the D3s retained a lot more detail and sharpness.

    As for the thread-jack, I don't mind it at all, I think it made this thread a lot more interesting and useful. Otherwise it would have been just another thread of "wow, great shots". But offcamber if you do want critique of your own pictures on their own, and not relative to some other camera, I agree it would be good to start your own thread. No need to take your ball and leave.
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