Gallery stats - no prior months anymore?

Nikolai

I tried to acces August stats on some of my galleries only to find out that there is no such thing. Page text shows correct info ("Statisics for gallery XYZ for August 2005", but there is no image thumbs, even with zeros - the rest fo the page is empty, as if the gallery were empty.

Did you guys drop the idea of keeping the prior stats info?
I remember Don was saying "couple of months, no more than a year, we can't guarantee anything", but it seems that current month stats ONLY is pretty "thin":uhoh

Andy

Nikolai wrote:

I tried to acces August stats on some of my galleries only to find out that there is no such thing. Page text shows correct info ("Statisics for gallery XYZ for August 2005", but there is no image thumbs, even with zeros - the rest fo the page is empty, as if the gallery were empty.

Did you guys drop the idea of keeping the prior stats info?
I remember Don was saying "couple of months, no more than a year, we can't guarantee anything", but it seems that current month stats ONLY is pretty "thin":uhoh

nik, look again. it's there, in your control panel

rainforest1155

Actually Nik is referring to the detailed statistics of every picture in a gallery. That was never directly accessible through the SM interface, but Nik used it through providing the site with the appropriate parameters and it was great to have it in S*E.
Without the feature you would have to get the detailed statistics at the last day/hour of a month in order to get all of them and that would be not do-able if you want complete stats and no hassle with them.

Hope this is just a glitch, too.

Sebastian

Nikolai

What Sebastian said

rainforest1155 wrote:

Actually Nik is referring to the detailed statistics of every picture in a gallery. That was never directly accessible through the SM interface, but Nik used it through providing the site with the appropriate parameters and it was great to have it in S*E.
Without the feature you would have to get the detailed statistics at the last day/hour of a month in order to get all of them and that would be not do-able if you want complete stats and no hassle with them.

Hope this is just a glitch, too.

Sebastian

I know it was not neither official, nor documented, but it was working. People (including myself) were using it. Now it does not work. I wonder if this functionality can be restored, at least to a degree...

JamesJWeg

Yeah, I see that too, major bummer, I only checked them after the month to see it at as a whole, I hope this is a oops.

James.

Nikolai

Don, JT - any commments?

Nikolai wrote:

I tried to acces August stats on some of my galleries only to find out that there is no such thing. Page text shows correct info ("Statisics for gallery XYZ for August 2005", but there is no image thumbs, even with zeros - the rest fo the page is empty, as if the gallery were empty.

Did you guys drop the idea of keeping the prior stats info?
I remember Don was saying "couple of months, no more than a year, we can't guarantee anything", but it seems that current month stats ONLY is pretty "thin":uhoh

Is this functionality gone forever, or it's just a glitch while revamping for CSS?

We're talking about testing "new" beta.. It would be nice to have the original functionality maintained to begin with... This one been reported a week ago, confirmed by several people - yet no feedback..

Nikolai

SmugBump

Nikolai wrote:

Is this functionality gone forever, or it's just a glitch while revamping for CSS?

We're talking about testing "new" beta.. It would be nice to have the original functionality maintained to begin with... This one been reported a week ago, confirmed by several people - yet no feedback..

Don, time passes by.. Can I get a feedback on this? Please?

onethumb

Nikolai wrote:

I tried to acces August stats on some of my galleries only to find out that there is no such thing. Page text shows correct info ("Statisics for gallery XYZ for August 2005", but there is no image thumbs, even with zeros - the rest fo the page is empty, as if the gallery were empty.

Did you guys drop the idea of keeping the prior stats info?
I remember Don was saying "couple of months, no more than a year, we can't guarantee anything", but it seems that current month stats ONLY is pretty "thin":uhoh

It's gone.

We clear out detailed stats for past months from time to time, and this month was one of those times.

We'll try to keep album level data for months, at the very least, but image level data is disk and CPU intensive and needs to be flushed from time to time.

Don

rainforest1155

onethumb wrote:

We clear out detailed stats for past months from time to time, and this month was one of those times.

We'll try to keep album level data for months, at the very least, but image level data is disk and CPU intensive and needs to be flushed from time to time.

I guess we all know this, but why flushing all data at once?
I always thought you were keeping it for the last 6 months or so - that meant for me that the data from January is availiable until the end of July and the February data until the end of August. This way you would only have to keep 6 months of data and still giving us enough time to acquire this data. It even would be sufficient if you only keep it for 5 or 4 or 3 months, but flushing everything on one day and start over fresh is not a good idea in my point of view.
How we're supposed to know when you're hitting the toilet flush? Even the IE got an option to keep the history for a certain amount of days/weeks without flushing all at once!

Thanks,
Sebastian

JamesJWeg

rainforest1155 wrote:

I guess we all know this, but why flushing all data at once?
I always thought you were keeping it for the last 6 months or so - that meant for me that the data from January is availiable until the end of July and the February data until the end of August. This way you would only have to keep 6 months of data and still giving us enough time to acquire this data. It even would be sufficient if you only keep it for 5 or 4 or 3 months, but flushing everything on one day and start over fresh is not a good idea in my point of view.
How we're supposed to know when you're hitting the toilet flush? Even the IE got an option to keep the history for a certain amount of days/weeks without flushing all at once!

Thanks,
Sebastian

Yeah, it would be nice to have it for x months, I personally would have gone and pulled mine if I had known it was going away, I am trying to pay close attention to traffic as a startup biz to see what people actually like, for that I need per photo stats. I would love to have a years worth myself, but wouldn't mind if I had to use star explorer to pull and store it, we just need to know what will be happening.

James.

rainforest1155

Any comment to our additional thoughts?

Thanks,
Sebastian

Nikolai

JT, Onethumb, Baldy?

rainforest1155 wrote:

Any comment to our additional thoughts?

Thanks,
Sebastian

bump..

Nikolai

Bump for Don:-)
Any chance to check this one out?

Nikolai

Bump

Nikolai wrote:

Any chance to check this one out?

Bump

rainforest1155

Hey Nik, I saw you bumping this every day now. I'm also waiting for an answear on this and I can see your frustration, but I think Don isn't around or really busy as I can't see any posts from him at the moment. I'm sure he'll be back when his schedule allows for it or at least I hope it.

Sebastian

Andy

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luke_church

andy wrote:

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I have such a program written on my hard drive. It needs patching into a Windows service and it can even do clever analysis things.

Cunningly called 'SmugAnalyser'

It's waiting for the real API bugs, as opposed to this one, which is a feature request.

Once they are done, I can release the library, and then release the application.

Luke

luke_church

I've just realised, I've just admitted to being able to read 3lit3 speak...

Hangs head in shame...



Luke

Andy

luke_church wrote:

Hangs head in shame...



Luke

rainforest1155

andy wrote:

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A littlebit hard to read, but I get your idea.
The problem with it is that you need to know when SM clears the data so you can really get all your visitors up to the last day. Then there are the timezones resulting in some confusion when the day in California ends. For me here in Germany it's then 9 am, which is not a bad time, but others might not be so lucky. Also I need to let my PC ran the whole time at the last day so that the program can do its work. What happens when I'm not at home for some weeks etc. ?

It would be much easier when SM would store the data for some weeks in the new month or at least inform us about the exact date/time when they delete the data. Something like they did for the maintenance window.

Sebastian

Andy

rainforest1155 wrote:

A littlebit hard to read, but I get your idea.
The problem with it is that you need to know when SM clears the data so you can really get all your visitors up to the last day. Then there are the timezones resulting in some confusion when the day in California ends. For me here in Germany it's then 9 am, which is not a bad time, but others might not be so lucky. Also I need to let my PC ran the whole time at the last day so that the program can do its work. What happens when I'm not at home for some weeks etc. ?

It would be much easier when SM would store the data for some weeks in the new month or at least inform us about the exact date/time when they delete the data. Something like they did for the maintenance window.

Sebastian

at the beginning of a month, the prior month's stats are availalble, yes? so it would seem to me, that grabbing them on the first of the month would make sense?

rainforest1155

andy wrote:

at the beginning of a month, the prior month's stats are availalble, yes? so it would seem to me, that grabbing them on the first of the month would make sense?

This is correct for the overall gallery stats, but not for the individual image usage statistics which were deleted for the last months when Nik posted this issue.
Using the SM interface you could only access them for the running month, but the API allowed for image stats up to 6 months and that's what Nik's S*E was using.

Sebastian

rainforest1155

Any comment on this from our favorite support team?

Thanks,
Sebastian