Star trails

doctorsoupdoctorsoup Registered Users Posts: 49 Big grins
edited October 13, 2010 in Landscapes
Hi all,

I've been playing with star trails recently. Here is one that I also posted at flickr that got some attention. I have uploaded a folder here on smugmug with a few shots, and would love some feedback.

1019597947_Abaei-L.jpg

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  • MileHighAkoMileHighAko Registered Users Posts: 413 Major grins
    edited September 30, 2010
    Very cool stuff. Would love to hear more about your setup and process. I love this pic.
  • jpcjpc Registered Users Posts: 840 Major grins
    edited September 30, 2010
    Wow. This is really excellent. Very nice work.
  • kdogkdog Administrators Posts: 11,681 moderator
    edited September 30, 2010
    Excellent composition for a star trails shot! I love that setting. thumb.gif

    Was there a moon out? Looks like quite a bit of ambient light there.

    Cheers,
    -joel
  • ritewingerritewinger Registered Users Posts: 243 Major grins
    edited October 1, 2010
    Great stuff. I'm guessing a number of 30 second exposures, please give us more details, and more pics like this.....thumb.gif
  • doctorsoupdoctorsoup Registered Users Posts: 49 Big grins
    edited October 1, 2010
    Thank you all!

    This link:

    http://www.liquidinplastic.com/2008/06/startrails/

    by Dan Newton is a great starting point for the "how-to" on shooting star trails.

    This image started out as 37 separate 30 second exposures. I stacked them together using the PS action mentioned in the article. There was about a 1/4 moon, coming from camera right, providing some illumination to the old farmhouse. I did some exposure masking to bring up the exposure on the house and the field. Then I converted the final image to sepia toning.

    I have some more star trail shots in my smugmug account, conveniently located in a separate folder called "Star Trails."

    http://pmcphotos.smugmug.com/Photography/Star-Trails/13896419_GG9er#1019597947_Abaei
    ritewinger wrote: »
    Great stuff. I'm guessing a number of 30 second exposures, please give us more details, and more pics like this.....thumb.gif
  • nazquelnazquel Registered Users Posts: 181 Major grins
    edited October 1, 2010
    awesome
    Navin Sarma

    Washington, D.C., based landscape and fine art photographer

    http://navinsarmaphotography.com/
  • JCJC Registered Users Posts: 768 Major grins
    edited October 2, 2010
    doctorsoup wrote: »
    Thank you all!

    This link:

    http://www.liquidinplastic.com/2008/06/startrails/

    by Dan Newton is a great starting point for the "how-to" on shooting star trails.

    ails."

    http://pmcphotos.smugmug.com/Photography/Star-Trails/13896419_GG9er#1019597947_Abaei

    Very nice work. One nit-pick though. I don't think the gaps that Dan Newton mentions are really due to a time lapse between shots as he says. I found those gaps in my startrail photos, and I was shooting consecutively, and there was no way the stars were moving that far between shots, especially with my wide angle shots.

    Its an image processing effect. Google for the screen lighten startrails method, I think there are some posts here on DG about it. I took the same stacks I had processed with lighten only and reprocessed them first stacking consecutive shots in screen mode, then stacking the whole lot in lighten mode, and the between-shot gaps disapeared. This only worked for the set I had shot in raw- for the ones I had shot in jpg, I couldn't get rid of the gaps. That tells me that the jpg compression is a contributing factor.

    Your gallery doesn't have high res enough versions to see if you are plagued by the gaps- very nice shots though.

    Now all I need is a programming guru to write a Gimp script to process a folder of images automatically by the screen-lighten method.
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  • doctorsoupdoctorsoup Registered Users Posts: 49 Big grins
    edited October 3, 2010
    kolibri wrote: »
    Very nice work. One nit-pick though. I don't think the gaps that Dan Newton mentions are really due to a time lapse between shots as he says. I found those gaps in my startrail photos, and I was shooting consecutively, and there was no way the stars were moving that far between shots, especially with my wide angle shots.

    Its an image processing effect. Google for the screen lighten startrails method, I think there are some posts here on DG about it. I took the same stacks I had processed with lighten only and reprocessed them first stacking consecutive shots in screen mode, then stacking the whole lot in lighten mode, and the between-shot gaps disapeared. This only worked for the set I had shot in raw- for the ones I had shot in jpg, I couldn't get rid of the gaps. That tells me that the jpg compression is a contributing factor.

    Your gallery doesn't have high res enough versions to see if you are plagued by the gaps- very nice shots though.

    Now all I need is a programming guru to write a Gimp script to process a folder of images automatically by the screen-lighten method.


    Thanks for the kind words Kolibri and steering me towards the screen-lighten method. This image has the gap problem, even though I did 30 sec exposures with only 1 sec in between each exposure, using a 20mm lens on a full frame camera. I tried this processing technique as per Floris' directions, but it did not eliminate the gaps. Now I'm perplexed, what to do next??? eek7.gif
  • JCJC Registered Users Posts: 768 Major grins
    edited October 4, 2010
    doctorsoup wrote: »
    Thanks for the kind words Kolibri and steering me towards the screen-lighten method. This image has the gap problem, even though I did 30 sec exposures with only 1 sec in between each exposure, using a 20mm lens on a full frame camera. I tried this processing technique as per Floris' directions, but it ..did not eliminate the gaps. Now I'm perplexed, what to do next??? eek7.gif

    Hmm. Did you shoot raw or jpg? The screen then lighten workflow worked for me. I'm out of the country, and don't have my images with me, or I'd post the difference.

    My set up: 28mm, full frame, 1 minute exposure, 1 second in between, shot with a timer- usually 60 to 90 shots.
    Workflow:
    -Shoot raw, batch convert using Bibble 1 stop under exposed. In file manager, duplicate all files except first and last- rename to add "screened" to the second file.
    -Open as layers in Gimp- it opens by name in this order:
    last
    last-1
    last-1screened
    last-2
    last-2screened
    first
    -then I combine consecutive shots with screen mode: ex
    last
    last-1
    last-1screened
    last-2
    last-2screened
    first
    That gives me three files instead of my 4 original files, and I combine them all using the lighten only mode.

    Remember (in gimp) you have to set the blending mode for each layer separately, and you can't do a combine all for the screen method for it to work, you have to do it 2 by 2. Once you've got all the pairs done, you can then set each layer mode to lighten only, make each one visible, can merge all visible layers. It does take a long time if you have to do it manually (gimp programmers, anyone want to write me a script???)

    this works for me, no gaps, so now i can print out my photos HUGE.

    If I try this with photos originally shot in jpg, or with a non linear stretch applied during raw conversion, it doesn't work, there must be an averaging of the final star streak pixel in each photo with the background during compression.

    hope this helps- it did me.
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  • doctorsoupdoctorsoup Registered Users Posts: 49 Big grins
    edited October 13, 2010
    Follow-up
    Thanks for trying to help, kolibri! I tried this again, following your directions, but using Photoshop CS5. (I haven't used Gimp.) The original files are shot in raw. I did the raw conversion using Adobe Camera Raw to .psd files. No better results. :cry

    I didn't follow this comment:

    What is a "nonlinear stretch applied during raw conversion" -- ??? eek7.gif
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