DSS61 Does this make sense?

WhatSheSaw

So here is my brilliant idea. What do you think? Does it make sense? Too obscure?

Any nits?

angevin1

One things for certain: It is really beautiful!

No nits on the process.

Dare I ask, what is the intention of the invention that you photographed?:D

richtersl

Is that a light bulb inside there? It's not very clear to me what it is. If it's a light bulb, then you'd need to peel away more of the balloon so the viewer can make out exactly what it is.

I like the peeling effect very much but it needs some more refining to show dimension. The peeled parts look a little flat right now.

A hot air balloon is an invention in and of itself so a photo of one or more hot air balloons would also fit the theme.

travelways

Nice work - not sure about the sense...

JAG

IMO some inventions do not need to make sense! An artist invents all the time. Its like creating right? So you have invented an unique photo that works for me! My suggestion would be to make the lightbulb a little smaller with it touching the top inside of the balloon and try to show the bottom of the lightbulb screw part. Now I realize you probably took the lightbulb image with it plugged into a socket so you might have to get creative and take a show of another bulb held up so you can get the screw part and clone that into the image. Or not. Just a suggestion.

Also as a nit...I reconize the difficulty it was to get the peelings and all. But there are a few ragged edges I can see in this smaller version so you might need to take a smoothing brush and zoom in close to clean up the edges just a tad. Or not...just a suggestion.

sherstone

JAG wrote: »

IMO some inventions do not need to make sense! An artist invents all the time.

Agreed! In fact I was hoping that this theme would bring out everyones creative side instead of trying to conform to something.

WhatSheSaw

angevin1 wrote: »

One things for certain: It is really beautiful!

No nits on the process.

Dare I ask, what is the intention of the invention that you photographed?:D

Good question, Tom!

I was struck by how much the balloon looked like a lightbulb. So it is not really an invention, but more about the process of invention. I was thinking of calling it either, "A lightbulb moment" or "10% Inspiration" or something like that. Maybe Edison used the balloon as inspiration for the shape of the lightbulb he invented.

WhatSheSaw

richtersl wrote: »

Is that a light bulb inside there? It's not very clear to me what it is. If it's a light bulb, then you'd need to peel away more of the balloon so the viewer can make out exactly what it is.

I like the peeling effect very much but it needs some more refining to show dimension. The peeled parts look a little flat right now.

A hot air balloon is an invention in and of itself so a photo of one or more hot air balloons would also fit the theme.

Thanks, Linda! This is very useful. Yes, it is a lightbulb. When you say flat, do you mean that the light is flat?

And thanks for the suggestion to use the balloon as is. If I can't get the PP right, I will use that as a fallback. But I have to try to get the PP better.

WhatSheSaw

photo-bug wrote: »

Nice work - not sure about the sense...

Thanks, Tatiana! I was afraid I might lose some people. Sometimes I go too far afield to find a different take on the theme.

WhatSheSaw

JAG wrote: »

IMO some inventions do not need to make sense! An artist invents all the time. Its like creating right? So you have invented an unique photo that works for me! My suggestion would be to make the lightbulb a little smaller with it touching the top inside of the balloon and try to show the bottom of the lightbulb screw part. Now I realize you probably took the lightbulb image with it plugged into a socket so you might have to get creative and take a show of another bulb held up so you can get the screw part and clone that into the image. Or not. Just a suggestion.

Also as a nit...I reconize the difficulty it was to get the peelings and all. But there are a few ragged edges I can see in this smaller version so you might need to take a smoothing brush and zoom in close to clean up the edges just a tad. Or not...just a suggestion.

Wonderful comments, JAG! I think I will try pulling out the middle 2 sections to show more of the bulb. And I will get an image of the screw part - great idea! Hopefully, I can pull the sections more cleanly on the next attempt. This is a great exercise for me to work on PP skils.

angevin1

WhatSheSaw wrote: »

Maybe Edison used the balloon as inspiration for the shape of the lightbulb he invented.

That is profound!

richtersl

WhatSheSaw wrote: »

Thanks, Linda! This is very useful. Yes, it is a lightbulb. When you say flat, do you mean that the light is flat?

And thanks for the suggestion to use the balloon as is. If I can't get the PP right, I will use that as a fallback. But I have to try to get the PP better.

The peelings look a bit 2 dimensional rather than 3-dimensional. Also, the shading is off. To me the upper half of the long piece should be darker.

Maybe insert a photo of a more traditionally shaped bulb inside the balloon?

Have you seen this peeling tutorial? http://www.tutorials-photoshop.com/special-effects/peeling-objects/index.php

Or this: http://photoshopcontest.com/tutorials/21/the-peel-effect.html

WhatSheSaw

angevin1 wrote: »

That is profound!

That is high praise, coming from you!

WhatSheSaw

richtersl wrote: »

The peelings look a bit 2 dimensional rather than 3-dimensional. Also, the shading is off. To me the upper half of the long piece should be darker.

Maybe insert a photo of a more traditionally shaped bulb inside the balloon?

Have you seen this peeling tutorial? http://www.tutorials-photoshop.com/special-effects/peeling-objects/index.php

Or this: http://photoshopcontest.com/tutorials/21/the-peel-effect.html

Thanks for the tutorials! This is a traditional incandescent bulb, but I think I may need to get a clear one instead of the soft white, so the filament will show up better. And I'll try some dodging and burning to add depth. Do you know of any tutorials to change a convex surface to a concave surface?

travelways

WhatSheSaw wrote: »

Do you know of any tutorials to change a convex surface to a concave surface?

That is something in PS: filters: distort: spherize - negative.

... and there was another method more recent, but I have to find it...

angevin1

WhatSheSaw wrote: »

Thanks for the tutorials! This is a traditional incandescent bulb, but I think I may need to get a clear one instead of the soft white, so the filament will show up better. And I'll try some dodging and burning to add depth. Do you know of any tutorials to change a convex surface to a concave surface?

You gals/guys...come up with the neatest Tutes! I'm interested in that one myself...SO far, I have to go to anther program to get in-to z space~

tinamarie52

This is very cool. I agree about using a clear bulb.

The tutes that Linda posted only peel in a spiral fashion. How did you get the peels to fall away?

I like where you are headed with this image.

Chris

WhatSheSaw

photo-bug wrote: »

That is something in PS: filters: distort: spherize - negative.

... and there was another method more recent, but I have to find it...

Thanks, Tatiana! I'll have to play with that.

WhatSheSaw

tinamarie52 wrote: »

This is very cool. I agree about using a clear bulb.

The tutes that Linda posted only peel in a spiral fashion. How did you get the peels to fall away?

I like where you are headed with this image.

Chris

Thanks, Chris! For the peels, I selected a section of the balloon and pasted it into a new layer. Then I played with various Distort options in PS Elements until I got it to look like I wanted - kind of a fluttering effect the way fabric would fall through air.

I am having a lot of fun with this! :ivar

ic4u

Very cool idea, I like the suggestions that have been made, can't really add to them, but can't wait to see what you come up with!

travelways

WhatSheSaw wrote: »

...Then I played with various Distort options in PS Elements until I got it to look like I wanted...

Hey, the other newer method was with Distort options

Froch

WhatSheSaw wrote: »

Thanks, Chris! For the peels, I selected a section of the balloon and pasted it into a new layer. Then I played with various Distort options in PS Elements until I got it to look like I wanted - kind of a fluttering effect the way fabric would fall through air.

I am having a lot of fun with this! :ivar

it looks great! terrific idea

WhatSheSaw

Thanks, Karin, Tatiana and Froch! I have been super busy this week and have not gotten back to my entry yet. I will make some time this weekend and be sure to get it in.

angevin1

WhatSheSaw wrote: »

Thanks, Karin, Tatiana and Froch! I have been super busy this week and have not gotten back to my entry yet. I will make some time this weekend and be sure to get it in.

I was wonderin!

WhatSheSaw

I'm running out of time. I couldn't figure out how to convert convex to concave, so I made the lightbulb larger to cover up more of the "inside" of the balloon.

Anyway, this is probably it. I'm not entirely happy with it, but I learned a lot.

tinamarie52

I love these peel-aways even better! You've really done a great job figuring this out.

Chris

Wil Davis

WhatSheSaw wrote: »

Good question, Tom!

I was struck by how much the balloon looked like a lightbulb. So it is not really an invention, but more about the process of invention. I was thinking of calling it either, "A lightbulb moment" or "10% Inspiration" or something like that. Maybe Edison used the balloon as inspiration for the shape of the lightbulb he invented.

Neat idea, but I think it's been done before. When I lived in the UK I remember seeing the Osram Hot air balloon, and yes it looked just like a giant incandescent light-bulb.

- Wil

travelways

Wonderful work, but to me it looks a little too compressed - can you stretch it up?

WhatSheSaw

Wil Davis wrote: »

Neat idea, but I think it's been done before. When I lived in the UK I remember seeing the Osram Hot air balloon, and yes it looked just like a giant incandescent light-bulb.

- Wil

Thanks, Wil! Nothing new under the sun.

WhatSheSaw

photo-bug wrote: »

Wonderful work, but to me it looks a little too compressed - can you stretch it up?

Thanks, Tatiana! Do you mean the lightbulb looks too squat?

WhatSheSaw

tinamarie52 wrote: »

I love these peel-aways even better! You've really done a great job figuring this out.

Chris

Thanks, Chris! It was a lot of work. It's much easier to get a concept in camera than to photoshop! I think next challenge, I will go for something SOOC.