Arches @ Sunrise - Windows/Turret Arch pano

JimKarczewskiJimKarczewski Registered Users Posts: 969 Major grins
edited October 21, 2010 in Landscapes
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9 Image panorama, taken sunrise, 10/7/10 @ Arches National Park.


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  • QarikQarik Registered Users Posts: 4,959 Major grins
    edited October 20, 2010
    pretty damn cool
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  • squirl033squirl033 Registered Users Posts: 1,230 Major grins
    edited October 20, 2010
    wow... really a nice composition here! the HDR is just a tad overdone for my personal taste - a bit too saturated - but otherwise this is excellent!
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  • dlplumerdlplumer Registered Users Posts: 8,081 Major grins
    edited October 20, 2010
    Incredible panorama bowdown.gifbowbowdown.gif
  • yendikenoyendikeno Registered Users Posts: 214 Major grins
    edited October 20, 2010
    squirl033 wrote: »
    wow... really a nice composition here! the HDR is just a tad overdone for my personal taste, but otherwise this is excellent!

    Agreed. I really like this shot a lot, but it is just too saturated for me.
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  • kdogkdog Administrators Posts: 11,681 moderator
    edited October 20, 2010
    Ok, now I need to go back to Arches. :bash

    Oh yeah, amazing shot! I'm not sure about oversaturated though. If you've shot this scene, you know that's pretty much how it looks in that light. It does look a little oversharpened though maybe. Although that could also be excessive microdetail cause by HDR'ing. I'll bet it would look pretty awesome in print the way it is.
  • WillCADWillCAD Registered Users Posts: 722 Major grins
    edited October 20, 2010
    Awesome place. Nice capture.
    What I said when I saw the Grand Canyon for the first time: "The wide ain't wide enough and the zoom don't zoom enough!"
  • jackiejayjackiejay Registered Users Posts: 714 Major grins
    edited October 20, 2010
    So pretty:)What a beautiful place
  • JimKarczewskiJimKarczewski Registered Users Posts: 969 Major grins
    edited October 20, 2010
    squirl033 wrote: »
    wow... really a nice composition here! the HDR is just a tad overdone for my personal taste, but otherwise this is excellent!

    <big buzzer sound>

    NO, ABSOLUTELY NO HDR.

    Sharpening, Yes, some shadow recovery (15%), yes. HDR, Nope. Also a little work with Topaz Adjust, but decreased t only 20% visible.

    ETA- Reason I don't do HDR, lack of GOOD stitching software that supports it. I've tried it in PTGui, ehhh. Not worth it. So now I work to not blow highlights, not kill shadows and work somewhere in between HDR and single shot work. Not that I don't use HDR, which I do for single shot, non-pano images. Until someone comes out with a good cross between photomatix and PTGui, I'll stick with what I know best! It's all about the 16bit work flow!
  • TreyHoffTreyHoff Registered Users Posts: 388 Major grins
    edited October 20, 2010
    Wow, what a photo! I've got a lot to learn about stitching a pano together and digital processing.
  • JimKarczewskiJimKarczewski Registered Users Posts: 969 Major grins
    edited October 20, 2010
    TreyHoff wrote: »
    Wow, what a photo! I've got a lot to learn about stitching a pano together and digital processing.

    Trey-

    Stitching is easy. Pick yer poison. You can use the free (Microsoft Research's ICE) or purchase something (PTGui, Autopan Pro, AutoPan Giga, etc)

    Everything really started coming together better for me once I invested in a Really Right Stuff Pano head. I only have the single row version but will be upgrading to the multi-row as single has it's disadvantages... especially if you like shooting with a 50mm lens like I do. I shot this with my 16-35/2.8II, but it's rare for me to use, hell, even carry that lens when I hike. Guess it was a good call taking it that morning.
  • bryanj87bryanj87 Registered Users Posts: 859 Major grins
    edited October 20, 2010
    Fantastic pano! Love the colors and contrast and the sun flare. Wow!
  • CWSkopecCWSkopec Registered Users Posts: 1,325 Major grins
    edited October 20, 2010
    Jim, that is one incredible image! Gorgeous work! clap.gif
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  • stirinthesaucestirinthesauce Registered Users Posts: 293 Major grins
    edited October 21, 2010
    Amazing!
  • squirl033squirl033 Registered Users Posts: 1,230 Major grins
    edited October 21, 2010
    <big buzzer="" sound="">

    NO, ABSOLUTELY NO HDR.

    Sharpening, Yes, some shadow recovery (15%), yes. HDR, Nope. Also a little work with Topaz Adjust, but decreased t only 20% visible.

    ETA- Reason I don't do HDR, lack of GOOD stitching software that supports it. I've tried it in PTGui, ehhh. Not worth it. So now I work to not blow highlights, not kill shadows and work somewhere in between HDR and single shot work. Not that I don't use HDR, which I do for single shot, non-pano images. Until someone comes out with a good cross between photomatix and PTGui, I'll stick with what I know best! It's all about the 16bit work flow!

    now i'm confused... looking at that middle rock in the lower right foreground, that looks almost like the light's coming from over your left shoulder, yet the sun is straight in front... that rock should be in deep shadow! how'd you do that? i guess that's what throws me off... the shadows don't seem to match up with where they oughta be from the sun's position...

    </big>
    ~ Rocky
    "Out where the rivers like to run, I stand alone, and take back something worth remembering..."
    Three Dog Night

    www.northwestnaturalimagery.com
  • squirl033squirl033 Registered Users Posts: 1,230 Major grins
    edited October 21, 2010
    kdog wrote: »
    If you've shot this scene, you know that's pretty much how it looks in that light.

    i've shot some stuff in that part of the country, and i agree, the red rock definitely gets pretty colorful around dawn and dusk, but this just seems a bit over saturated even for that. maybe it's the Topaz processing, which i've never tried, but my sunrise/sunset shots from places like Arches, Monument Valley, etc., aren't quite that saturated. the tone is right, the shade of red-orange, just seems there's a bit to much of it... headscratch.gif
    ~ Rocky
    "Out where the rivers like to run, I stand alone, and take back something worth remembering..."
    Three Dog Night

    www.northwestnaturalimagery.com
  • JimKarczewskiJimKarczewski Registered Users Posts: 969 Major grins
    edited October 21, 2010
    Tomorrow when I get a sec, I'll post an image direct out of C1 before stitching...
  • Stella7dStella7d Registered Users Posts: 201 Major grins
    edited October 21, 2010
    Wow! What an AWE inspiring shot!! Really beautiful!! I love the canyons of Utah, and Arches being a favorite!!:D
  • jamesljamesl Registered Users Posts: 642 Major grins
    edited October 21, 2010
    squirl033 wrote: »
    now i'm confused... looking at that middle rock in the lower right foreground, that looks almost like the light's coming from over your left shoulder, yet the sun is straight in front... that rock should be in deep shadow! how'd you do that? i guess that's what throws me off... the shadows don't seem to match up with where they oughta be from the sun's position...

    </BIG>

    Having shot there about a week before this shot, I think I can help explain. What you are seeing is probably over 180 degrees of total view, and maybe closer to 240 or so. The sun is, in fact, pretty close to being over your left shoulder in this location. My shot is very similar to this, and was shot with my 20mm prime in vertical orientation. This leads to a very large field of view, and the perspective that it's not a large field of view. ;-)

    Great shot, btw! Maybe a bit oversharpened for my tastes, but it looks good. <img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029383/emoji/thumb.gif&quot; border="0" alt="" >

    James
  • JimKarczewskiJimKarczewski Registered Users Posts: 969 Major grins
    edited October 21, 2010
    jamesl wrote: »
    Having shot there about a week before this shot, I think I can help explain. What you are seeing is probably over 180 degrees of total view, and maybe closer to 240 or so. The sun is, in fact, pretty close to being over your left shoulder in this location. My shot is very similar to this, and was shot with my 20mm prime in vertical orientation. This leads to a very large field of view, and the perspective that it's not a large field of view. ;-)

    Great shot, btw! Maybe a bit oversharpened for my tastes, but it looks good. thumb.gif

    James

    Correct. Looking at the satellite images in Google Maps, I'd guesstimate 210-220 degree view. I was literally hanging off the edge of the rocks I was on..

    Yeah, sharpening is a bit much, I shouldn't had gone so heavy handed when I sized it down for posting online.
  • squirl033squirl033 Registered Users Posts: 1,230 Major grins
    edited October 21, 2010
    jamesl wrote: »
    Having shot there about a week before this shot, I think I can help explain. What you are seeing is probably over 180 degrees of total view, and maybe closer to 240 or so. The sun is, in fact, pretty close to being over your left shoulder in this location. My shot is very similar to this, and was shot with my 20mm prime in vertical orientation. This leads to a very large field of view, and the perspective that it's not a large field of view. ;-)

    Great shot, btw! Maybe a bit oversharpened for my tastes, but it looks good. thumb.gif

    James


    okay, now it makes sense... thanks!
    ~ Rocky
    "Out where the rivers like to run, I stand alone, and take back something worth remembering..."
    Three Dog Night

    www.northwestnaturalimagery.com
  • JimKarczewskiJimKarczewski Registered Users Posts: 969 Major grins
    edited October 21, 2010
    So here is one of the pre-stitched, right from C1 images. Had to do a little editing/creative cropping to get rid of the Tripod leg stabilizing the image, but other than that, this was my starting point for exposure. So this is one of the 9 shots, 16mm on a 16-35. Next time I'm taking a picture of my setup with my phone or something, because it definitely was a tricky little spot I was in!

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  • jamesljamesl Registered Users Posts: 642 Major grins
    edited October 21, 2010
    So here is one of the pre-stitched, right from C1 images. Had to do a little editing/creative cropping to get rid of the Tripod leg stabilizing the image, but other than that, this was my starting point for exposure. So this is one of the 9 shots, 16mm on a 16-35. Next time I'm taking a picture of my setup with my phone or something, because it definitely was a tricky little spot I was in!

    Were you on top of that little nub of rock? That almost looks like you were to the left of it. It is definitely a tricky spot, regardless of where you are! Doing it in the near dark is fun. :)
  • JimKarczewskiJimKarczewski Registered Users Posts: 969 Major grins
    edited October 21, 2010
    jamesl wrote: »
    Were you on top of that little nub of rock? That almost looks like you were to the left of it. It is definitely a tricky spot, regardless of where you are! Doing it in the near dark is fun. :)

    Left of the nub (assuming you are looking through the north window @ Turret Arch)! There were 2 people on the nub, 2 tripods, so I had to find another spot. If you slide down next to the nub, you are right on the edge, room to work, but very little....
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