Two bar shots

RichardRichard Administrators, Vanilla Admin Posts: 20,012 moderator
edited October 29, 2010 in Street and Documentary
The San Miguel Market in Madrid used to be a great place for food shopping. It was renovated recently and turned into something like one big tapas bar.
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  • M38A1M38A1 Registered Users Posts: 1,317 Major grins
    edited October 25, 2010
    I'm becoming a fan of these types of shots. I really like the warmth/colors and feel of depth for #1. thumb.gif
  • FlyingginaFlyinggina Registered Users Posts: 2,639 Major grins
    edited October 25, 2010
    Richard, I commented on these this morning. Have no idea where that comment went. It's been happening to me a lot lately.

    #2 is the winner for me. I would consider a crop (just because I want to see more of the woman), but suspect that it works best overall as is.

    #1 made me smile.

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  • lizzard_nyclizzard_nyc Registered Users Posts: 4,056 Major grins
    edited October 25, 2010
    #2 is definately my favorite Richard. I like the conversion and the grainy feel as well as the lines and shapes you captured here. I like her body language with arms behind her back and her expression is a little hard to read. It's a little far away so it's hard to see her face in detail, but the shot works for me.

    #1--I like the color and warmth.
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  • RichardRichard Administrators, Vanilla Admin Posts: 20,012 moderator
    edited October 26, 2010
    Many thanks. I considered a crop in #2, but what caught my attention in the first place was how alone she seemed in an otherwise busy place, so I left the space. ne_nau.gif
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  • rainbowrainbow Registered Users Posts: 2,765 Major grins
    edited October 28, 2010
    I like the second with the solitude feeling in what should be a busy place. Gives the sense that she is waiting for the place to open so she can get her first drink of the day...

    Q: Is the black diagonal line on her neck a processing artifact? Also, in another thread you mentioned combining a b/w layer with the color. What effect does that have?
  • RichardRichard Administrators, Vanilla Admin Posts: 20,012 moderator
    edited October 28, 2010
    rainbow wrote: »
    Q: Is the black diagonal line on her neck a processing artifact?
    Yes. It's the shadow of the cords in her neck, but it was exaggerated by the sharpening. Between the original noise, the conversion and the added grain, detail in her face was pretty much obliterated, so I used HIRALOAM sharpening to at least have some contour there.
    rainbow wrote:
    Also, in another thread you mentioned combining a b/w layer with the color. What effect does that have?
    The goal is to work with color and brightness separately. I used to work in LAB mode for that reason, but I discovered that I can get better control if I set the contrast I want on a separate B&W layer, then blend the B&W in luminosity, multiply or one of the overlay modes. By putting a channel mask on the B&W layer and varying the mask density and layer opacity, you can fine tune the highlights and shadows separately. As for the color part, ACR does everything I need with rare exceptions.
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  • misterbmisterb Banned Posts: 601 Major grins
    edited October 28, 2010
    That boy in #1 needs to step *away* from the Tapas.. he's at the age where you can lose weight before it becomes forever.
  • imgsrcimgsrc Registered Users Posts: 17 Big grins
    edited October 28, 2010
    #1 is my favorite. The colors slap me in the face without the shot looking too post-processed. The little boy is great. Seems to be waiting somewhat impatiently for his Mom to finish the conversation so they can get moving. Like the composition. But I hate that the bartender is looking at the camera.

    #2 is great as well. Love all the extra space, really puts the theme of isolation in the spotlight. Her face seems strange when you look at it closely though... kinda unfortunate.
  • RichardRichard Administrators, Vanilla Admin Posts: 20,012 moderator
    edited October 29, 2010
    imgsrc wrote: »
    #1 is my favorite. The colors slap me in the face without the shot looking too post-processed. The little boy is great. Seems to be waiting somewhat impatiently for his Mom to finish the conversation so they can get moving. Like the composition. But I hate that the bartender is looking at the camera.

    #2 is great as well. Love all the extra space, really puts the theme of isolation in the spotlight. Her face seems strange when you look at it closely though... kinda unfortunate.

    First of all, welcome to Dgrin wave.gif.

    I understand what you mean about the bartender. I've become a little more tolerant about direct looks as it also means the person is looking at the viewer of the pic, which can be a good thing sometimes. I didn't much care for it here, but I didn't think it utterly ruined the shot. ne_nau.gif.

    Regarding the face in #2, you are correct--the face is a mess, even more of a mess than may be apparent in a small Web size. Nevertheless, I liked the overall feeling of the shot, so I didn't toss it.

    I appreciate the feedback thumb.gif.
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