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FotobyMoMoFotobyMoMo Registered Users Posts: 98 Big grins
edited October 31, 2010 in Weddings
I see a lot of wedding shots use + EC and I wanted to know is this something done from camera or is it being done through Camera Raw? Would one be better than other? Such as, doing it from camera would be better than to do it through PP? :dunno
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    Moogle PepperMoogle Pepper Registered Users Posts: 2,950 Major grins
    edited October 28, 2010
    It's not a stupid question. Most of this is done via a tilt shift dedicated lens.
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    FotobyMoMoFotobyMoMo Registered Users Posts: 98 Big grins
    edited October 28, 2010
    Moogle Pepper wrote: »
    It's not a stupid question. Most of this is done via a tilt shift dedicated lens.

    Well, that's the thing, it's being done with a 24-105 4L lens or a 50mm 1.4 or 1.2 lens or even a 70-200 lens

    Reading a lot of EXIFs it seems as people are simply moving the exposure to the right. Jut not sure if it's straight from camera or from PP
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    SamSam Registered Users Posts: 7,419 Major grins
    edited October 28, 2010
    FotobyMoMo wrote: »
    Well, that's the thing, it's being done with a 24-105 4L lens or a 50mm 1.4 or 1.2 lens or even a 70-200 lens

    Reading a lot of EXIFs it seems as people are simply moving the exposure to the right. Jut not sure if it's straight from camera or from PP

    The EXIF data is the camera info. Has nothing to do with tilt shift.

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    FotobyMoMoFotobyMoMo Registered Users Posts: 98 Big grins
    edited October 28, 2010
    Sam wrote: »
    The EXIF data is the camera info. Has nothing to do with tilt shift.

    Sam

    I'm confused now. The EXIF data tells you what camera and lens is being used. Wouldn't it say if it was a tilt shift lens if it was? headscratch.gif
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    Ed911Ed911 Registered Users Posts: 1,306 Major grins
    edited October 28, 2010
    Moogle Pepper wrote: »
    It's not a stupid question. Most of this is done via a tilt shift dedicated lens.

    Just wondering why you mentioned the TS lens for +EC...am I wrong...or is the OP talking about added exposure compensation?
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    FotobyMoMoFotobyMoMo Registered Users Posts: 98 Big grins
    edited October 28, 2010
    Ed yes, I am speaking of added exposure. I like that look, when you have the bright image look for weddings. But I wasn't sure if they were taking the images like that or simply doing it during post production
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    urbanariesurbanaries Registered Users Posts: 2,690 Major grins
    edited October 28, 2010
    Most weddings have a big white dress in the scene:D which tends to throw off the "smart" camera meter which is programmed to expose everything as 18% grey. So +EC allows consistent "overexposure" of the metered scene in camera, which should yield in a properly exposed white dress and not a "grey" one.

    +EC in camera will require more light (in the form of slower shutter speed or wider aperture). So if you have enough light, go for it in camera for the highest quality image. If not, you are choosing between boosting ISO in camera and boosting exposure in PP, I have seen many debate but personally I don't see much of a difference. They both add some grain.

    FotoMoMo...it seems you are new to this and I would strongly recommend learning the basics of exposure and lighting (Bryan Peterson's Understanding Exposure was my bible the first year of dSLRing) as attempting to "reverse engineer" from others wedding EXIF shots might not be the best investment of your time. Best of luck and keep posting!
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    Art ScottArt Scott Registered Users Posts: 8,959 Major grins
    edited October 28, 2010
    NOT a stupid question at all...........

    for me EC has always meant EXPOSURE COMPENSATION.......which yes a lot of photographers
    use a lot...and it does seem to make better photos if the exposure is just a bit right of dead center....
    most of the time dead center exposure makes for flat photos with no snap pop poof or whatever you want
    to call it......

    Tilt Shift lens are normally used for Landscape and Architecture photography
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    urbanariesurbanaries Registered Users Posts: 2,690 Major grins
    edited October 28, 2010
    Maybe Ted only had one cup of coffee today, we'll give him a free pass...this time!!! mwink.gifrofl
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    Moogle PepperMoogle Pepper Registered Users Posts: 2,950 Major grins
    edited October 28, 2010
    urbanaries wrote: »
    Maybe Ted only had one cup of coffee today, we'll give him a free pass...this time!!! mwink.gifrofl

    Yeah. One cup. I was thinking about nikon's tilt shift lens. Lol
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    urbanariesurbanaries Registered Users Posts: 2,690 Major grins
    edited October 28, 2010
    Moogle Pepper wrote: »
    Yeah. One cup. I was thinking about nikon's tilt shift lens. Lol

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    Moogle PepperMoogle Pepper Registered Users Posts: 2,950 Major grins
    edited October 28, 2010
    urbanaries wrote: »
    WTH! Are their ads getting to you after all? BE STRONG!

    These emails!! D: I must be strong!!


    [Sorry, FotobyMomo, I was totally thinking about Nikon's tiltshift lens when reading the thread. :( ]
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    FotobyMoMoFotobyMoMo Registered Users Posts: 98 Big grins
    edited October 28, 2010
    Thanks guys. I am reading this one book about wedding photography and soon as I'm done I'll start reading the book mentioned above. A lot of people mention that book and at least see that name come up every other day in different forums Laughing.gif

    So I grabbed the wife and went to do some practice outside and shot in AV mode with EC and here are couple results I got

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    and this one is intentionally done to over expose which maybe too much but I wanted to get this look, may not work for some (sorry in advance)

    73699_10150311689415226_882565225_15618922_7418898_n.jpg
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    Matthew SavilleMatthew Saville Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 3,352 Major grins
    edited October 31, 2010
    Exposure compensation is overrated, in my opinion. If you need something other than what the light meter is automatically giving you, maybe it's time to shoot in manual mode. I use aperture priority a lot, and I use manual exposure mode a lot. I use matrix (evaluative) metering a lot, and I use spot metering a lot. Sometimes when I'm completely NUTS, I'll combine spot metering and aperture priority, which requires serious metering and focus point skills.

    However, even with all this OCD control, I hardly ever use +/- compensation. Maybe only a little, if I'm shooting a backlit situation using center-weighted metering. Otherwise, if I'm going to disobey my camera's light meter, I'm going to do it in manual mode.

    I LOVE low-key and high-key images, which would be the equivalent to negative and positive compensation, but I'd bet that 99.9% of the time, I'm doing so in manual mode, and not fiddling with the +/- button...

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