Day of the Dead in Madrid

RichardRichard Administrators, Vanilla Admin Posts: 19,961 moderator
edited November 13, 2010 in Street and Documentary
Just pharting around...

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  • rainbowrainbow Registered Users Posts: 2,765 Major grins
    edited November 2, 2010
    clap.gifclapclap.gifscratcheek7.gifne_nau.gifthumbthumb.gifthumbwings.gifroflbowdown.gifbowbowdown.gif

    Did you freehand it in or take it from another shot? Absolutely love it!
  • lizzard_nyclizzard_nyc Registered Users Posts: 4,056 Major grins
    edited November 2, 2010
    Wow Richard bowdown.gif.

    Instant story came to mind--love it.
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  • RichardRichard Administrators, Vanilla Admin Posts: 19,961 moderator
    edited November 2, 2010
    rainbow wrote: »
    Did you freehand it in or take it from another shot? Absolutely love it!
    Don't you believe in ghosts? rolleyes1.gif
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  • DonRicklinDonRicklin Registered Users Posts: 5,551 Major grins
    edited November 2, 2010
    Another Excellent one, Richard! thumb.gif

    Keep it up! :D

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  • kdogkdog Administrators Posts: 11,681 moderator
    edited November 2, 2010
    Jeez, that's creepy! :uhoh
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  • M38A1M38A1 Registered Users Posts: 1,317 Major grins
    edited November 2, 2010
    thumb.gif Wow. That conjures up a lot of different interpretations.
  • rainbowrainbow Registered Users Posts: 2,765 Major grins
    edited November 2, 2010
    Richard wrote: »
    Don't you believe in ghosts? rolleyes1.gif

    Only dead ones... headscratch.gifscratchheadscratch.gifscratchheadscratch.gifscratch
  • RichardRichard Administrators, Vanilla Admin Posts: 19,961 moderator
    edited November 3, 2010
    Thanks guys. thumb.gif

    rainbow: It was a single shot and the girl was really there--I can't draw worth a damn. Just some heavy Photoshopping. This was a simplification of an even more bizarre thing I posted a couple of weeks ago in OCS.
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  • FlyingginaFlyinggina Registered Users Posts: 2,639 Major grins
    edited November 3, 2010
    This is definitely one that makes the viewer do a double (triple) take. Creepy in a good sort of way.

    Thanks for revealing how how you did it. But I gotta wonder if you have too much spare time on your hands. rolleyes1.gif

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  • misterbmisterb Banned Posts: 601 Major grins
    edited November 3, 2010
    Very trippy..
  • RichardRichard Administrators, Vanilla Admin Posts: 19,961 moderator
    edited November 3, 2010
    Thanks, misterb and Virginia.
    Flyinggina wrote: »
    But I gotta wonder if you have too much spare time on your hands. rolleyes1.gif

    Ya think? lol3.gif
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  • black mambablack mamba Registered Users Posts: 8,323 Major grins
    edited November 3, 2010
    Darn, Richard, you keep this sort of stuff up and old Rod Serling going to be raising his head again.

    Nice work.clap.gif

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  • bdcolenbdcolen Registered Users Posts: 3,804 Major grins
    edited November 4, 2010
    Richard wrote: »
    Just pharting around...

    1074726856_TESV8-XL.jpg

    mwink.gif

    Great example of what makes PS so potentially dangerous....mwink.gif
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  • RichardRichard Administrators, Vanilla Admin Posts: 19,961 moderator
    edited November 4, 2010
    black mamba wrote: »
    Darn, Richard, you keep this sort of stuff up and old Rod Serling going to be raising his head again.
    Tom
    lol3.gif Thanks, Tom.
    bdcolen wrote: »
    Great example of what makes PS so potentially dangerous....mwink.gif
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  • FlyingginaFlyinggina Registered Users Posts: 2,639 Major grins
    edited November 7, 2010
    bdcolen wrote: »
    Great example of what makes PS so potentially dangerous....mwink.gif

    In a sense you are right. BD.

    And if this had been included in Lens as one of the pj photos of the day (unless Lens was featuring altered photos, of course), then there would be a problem.

    The way I look at it is that on this forum we are all adults. We know that the photo was altered. It is perhaps better described as graphic art. But it is fun to see it and think about how it was done.

    Also, for many of us it is fun to play once in awhile and share our results with friends.

    That said, it is always good to keep in mind the unanswerable questions about the relationship between our photos and reality and the many ways, many of which take place before we even get to the pp, we influence the story our photos tell.

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  • RichardRichard Administrators, Vanilla Admin Posts: 19,961 moderator
    edited November 8, 2010
    Flyinggina wrote: »
    The way I look at it is that on this forum we are all adults. We know that the photo was altered. It is perhaps better described as graphic art. But it is fun to see it and think about how it was done.
    Yes. Different standards apply to forensic photography, photojournalism and fine art photography. We know that some things are straight photography and others are pure graphic art, but the boundary is fuzzy, to say the least. I like to use the term "images," which sidesteps the issue.

    This business of truth is pretty complicated, I think. One of Robert Capa's most famous images, The Fallen Soldier, is of dubious authenticity. It has pretty well been established that it was shot 60 kilometers away from where it was claimed, and there was no fighting going on in that area at the time. Some have claimed that it was staged altogether, but there is no proof of that. Nevertheless, it is an enormously powerful image. It's not entirely facetious to say that it's true whether it happened or not.
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  • PhotoDavid78PhotoDavid78 Registered Users Posts: 939 Major grins
    edited November 8, 2010
    Cool idea but if the shadow was upsidedown and matched the direction of the real shadows in the photo it would be even creepier.
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  • RichardRichard Administrators, Vanilla Admin Posts: 19,961 moderator
    edited November 8, 2010
    dtw78 wrote: »
    Cool idea but if the shadow was upsidedown and matched the direction of the real shadows in the photo it would be even creepier.
    Thanks, David. I considered that, but there was a problem with the overlap of the actual feet and shadow. I don't think it would have looked as good. The biggest problem with this whole idea is getting the right shot to work with. I took over a hundred before selecting two to work on. I never realized shadows were so complex lol3.gif.
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  • PhotoDavid78PhotoDavid78 Registered Users Posts: 939 Major grins
    edited November 8, 2010
    Richard wrote: »
    Thanks, David. I considered that, but there was a problem with the overlap of the actual feet and shadow. I don't think it would have looked as good. The biggest problem with this whole idea is getting the right shot to work with. I took over a hundred before selecting two to work on. I never realized shadows were so complex lol3.gif.

    Understood. Also, I think a hint of blur might make thhe shadow look more realistic.
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  • AgnieszkaAgnieszka Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 3,263 Major grins
    edited November 12, 2010
    WOW! What a fuuun idea!! Absolutely love it!
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  • FlyingginaFlyinggina Registered Users Posts: 2,639 Major grins
    edited November 12, 2010
    Richard wrote: »
    This business of truth is pretty complicated, I think. One of Robert Capa's most famous images, The Fallen Soldier, is of dubious authenticity. It has pretty well been established that it was shot 60 kilometers away from where it was claimed, and there was no fighting going on in that area at the time. Some have claimed that it was staged altogether, but there is no proof of that. Nevertheless, it is an enormously powerful image. It's not entirely facetious to say that it's true whether it happened or not.

    Yes, I think of the Capa photograph often when this issue comes up.

    Did he capture truth? I think yes.

    Did he capture "the" truth - I appears that the answer is no.

    Does the end justify the means? Maybe..... Sometimes .... Yes??????

    Virginia

    PS - Despite your photo, Richard, I still don't believe in ghosts!!rolleyes1.gif
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  • RichardRichard Administrators, Vanilla Admin Posts: 19,961 moderator
    edited November 13, 2010
    Flyinggina wrote: »

    Does the end justify the means? Maybe..... Sometimes .... Yes??????
    For me, it comes down to how an image is presented. I am probably as adamant as BD that photojournalism must adhere to strict standards regarding image manipulation. OTOH, all's fair in art, I believe, as there are no rules. The really interesting question is whether art or journalism is the better source of truth, but I'll leave that one till I've had a second glass of wine. mwink.gif
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