Rally and Counter Protest

christinamaechristinamae Registered Users Posts: 484 Major grins
edited November 22, 2010 in Street and Documentary
There was a neo-N*** rally in Phoenix, AZ on Saturday. I knew it would be an interesting experience!

(The publishing of these photos should not be misunderstood as an endorsement of any group or their actions in these photos. I was merely documenting the event.)

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Comments appreciated! Thank you for looking!

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  • lizzard_nyclizzard_nyc Registered Users Posts: 4,056 Major grins
    edited November 16, 2010
    I am struck by their youth! They are practically children.
    Also although there is tension in #1, it just seems like such a tiny amount of protestors for the kind of police reaction they got (size wise).
    They all have their face covered except for the last shot with the guy in the suit--is he a protestor? how odd. The last one also makes me chuckle with all the cops in reflective eyeware:)

    Out of curiosity, why can't you spell out nazi?

    Wish you had more...I want to see the size of this protest.

    Thanks for sharing.
    Liz A.
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  • rainbowrainbow Registered Users Posts: 2,765 Major grins
    edited November 17, 2010
    These are an excellent set of the event. I like the first with the face-off between the police and protesters. I am trying to figure out what she is carrying. It looks like a rolled up poster to hit them on the helmet with.ne_nau.gif
  • misterbmisterb Banned Posts: 601 Major grins
    edited November 17, 2010
    If you come at cops in NY with a stick (like shot #1) you are in for a world of hurt.
  • christinamaechristinamae Registered Users Posts: 484 Major grins
    edited November 17, 2010
    lizzard_nyc wrote: »
    I am struck by their youth! They are practically children.
    Also although there is tension in #1, it just seems like such a tiny amount of protestors for the kind of police reaction they got (size wise).
    They all have their face covered except for the last shot with the guy in the suit--is he a protestor? how odd. The last one also makes me chuckle with all the cops in reflective eyeware:)

    Out of curiosity, why can't you spell out nazi?

    Wish you had more...I want to see the size of this protest.

    Thanks for sharing.

    Thanks! I have many many more photos, but I've been swamped with work and have had little time to process them.

    I should have put captions on the photos. The first 3 shots are of the protesters. The last shot is of the Nazi group leader and the men with reflective glasses are fellow Nazis.

    rainbow wrote: »
    These are an excellent set of the event. I like the first with the face-off between the police and protesters. I am trying to figure out what she is carrying. It looks like a rolled up poster to hit them on the helmet with.ne_nau.gif

    Thank you! She was carrying a piece of wood. They banged them on the ground while walking toward the police. The group of Nazis are behind the police.
    misterb wrote: »
    If you come at cops in NY with a stick (like shot #1) you are in for a world of hurt.

    Well, she got a good dose of pepper spray from the police. I missed the shot of it as I was dodging the pepper spray!
  • senorjaxsenorjax Registered Users Posts: 298 Major grins
    edited November 17, 2010
    Great set in general but for me #3 is one of my pics of the year. Outstanding!!! The juxtaposition of their relative 'shields' is genius. And it just struck me that this kid should appreciate a phalanx of heavily armed, humorless, authoritarian, mostly white guys more than anybody eh?
    Jay
  • christinamaechristinamae Registered Users Posts: 484 Major grins
    edited November 18, 2010
    senorjax wrote: »
    Great set in general but for me #3 is one of my pics of the year. Outstanding!!! The juxtaposition of their relative 'shields' is genius. And it just struck me that this kid should appreciate a phalanx of heavily armed, humorless, authoritarian, mostly white guys more than anybody eh?

    Thank you!
  • NyarthlopicNyarthlopic Registered Users Posts: 274 Major grins
    edited November 18, 2010
    I like this set as well, and you did an amazing job of capturing it. You managed to capture the protest without really 'favoring' one side or the other. You managed not to paint the police as brutally beating the poor unarmed protesters. You also managed not to make it look like the heroic policemen defending the populace against the bloodthirsty mob. You managed to tell a story of the protest in a very neutral, unbiased manner. Photographing a scene like this without 'taking sides' is very difficult. I applaud your efforts there.

    And the photos themselves...very, very good. I like #3 as well. The kid looks like he's mocking the phalanx. Just funny. Though I do have a question about #3. In the background, you can see someone holding a sign. What does the sign say?
  • christinamaechristinamae Registered Users Posts: 484 Major grins
    edited November 19, 2010
    Nyarthlopic wrote: »
    I like this set as well, and you did an amazing job of capturing it. You managed to capture the protest without really 'favoring' one side or the other. You managed not to paint the police as brutally beating the poor unarmed protesters. You also managed not to make it look like the heroic policemen defending the populace against the bloodthirsty mob. You managed to tell a story of the protest in a very neutral, unbiased manner. Photographing a scene like this without 'taking sides' is very difficult. I applaud your efforts there.

    And the photos themselves...very, very good. I like #3 as well. The kid looks like he's mocking the phalanx. Just funny. Though I do have a question about #3. In the background, you can see someone holding a sign. What does the sign say?

    Thank you! I appreciate your comments.

    This is the sign in the background. The Nazi's were directly behind the police line in #3.

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  • Quincy TQuincy T Registered Users Posts: 1,090 Major grins
    edited November 20, 2010
    senorjax wrote: »
    Great set in general but for me #3 is one of my pics of the year. Outstanding!!! The juxtaposition of their relative 'shields' is genius. And it just struck me that this kid should appreciate a phalanx of heavily armed, humorless, authoritarian, mostly white guys more than anybody eh?

    I concur. This shot gave me goosebumps...I mean that is just something else. They are all excellent, but 3 is just out of this world.
  • christinamaechristinamae Registered Users Posts: 484 Major grins
    edited November 22, 2010
    Sword and Scales wrote: »
    I concur. This shot gave me goosebumps...I mean that is just something else. They are all excellent, but 3 is just out of this world.

    Thank you! I wish I had been closer for the shot, but I also wanted to stay out of the pepper spray!
  • misterbmisterb Banned Posts: 601 Major grins
    edited November 22, 2010
    christinamae wrote: »
    Thank you! I wish I had been closer for the shot, but I also wanted to stay out of the pepper spray!

    I want to point out (speaking as one who ate my share of Pepper Spray) that these anarchists often copy tactics of Inmates with regards to pepperspray.

    They will often take cayanne pepper and crush it down in a mixture of baby oil or other liquids (including urine) and put it in a container to use against the officers. Look at shot #2- do you see the containers they have? Nope- it's not Starbucks. In addition, they all have glasses to shield the cops OC (oleoresin capsicum- pepper spray) and covered mouths and noses.

    Nice group, huh!
  • christinamaechristinamae Registered Users Posts: 484 Major grins
    edited November 22, 2010
    misterb wrote: »
    I want to point out (speaking as one who ate my share of Pepper Spray) that these anarchists often copy tactics of Inmates with regards to pepperspray.

    They will often take cayanne pepper and crush it down in a mixture of baby oil or other liquids (including urine) and put it in a container to use against the officers. Look at shot #2- do you see the containers they have? Nope- it's not Starbucks. In addition, they all have glasses to shield the cops OC (oleoresin capsicum- pepper spray) and covered mouths and noses.

    Nice group, huh!

    They were throwing the cans, rocks and other items at the cops and Nazis. I was amazed that they had their own medics with milk and watered down dish soap for the pepper spray.
  • M38A1M38A1 Registered Users Posts: 1,317 Major grins
    edited November 22, 2010
    lizzard_nyc wrote: »
    The last one also makes me chuckle with all the cops in reflective eyeware:)

    If you look close, I'm not sure cops have "SS" insignia on their uniforms or the WWII German emblem on their caps. Those three shaded main characters and 'the suit' are part of the protest group I believe.


    Great series as I almost feel as if I was there to experience the event. thumb.gif
  • christinamaechristinamae Registered Users Posts: 484 Major grins
    edited November 22, 2010
    M38A1 wrote: »
    If you look close, I'm not sure cops have "SS" insignia on their uniforms or the WWII German emblem on their caps. Those three shaded main characters and 'the suit' are part of the protest group I believe.


    Great series as I almost feel as if I was there to experience the event. thumb.gif

    Thank you!

    Actually, those are the Nazis that were holding the rally. The man in the suit is the group leader. The first 3 photos are of the protesters that were upset about the Nazis holding a rally here.
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