C-Loop

Ric GrupeRic Grupe Registered Users Posts: 9,522 Major grins
edited November 23, 2010 in Accessories
C-Loop - Camera Strap Mount Solution

Looks interesting...don't know about this pledge stuff though.:scratch

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  • ivarivar Registered Users Posts: 8,395 Major grins
    edited November 17, 2010
    how is this different from something like the BlackRapid straps?
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  • Ric GrupeRic Grupe Registered Users Posts: 9,522 Major grins
    edited November 17, 2010
    ivar wrote: »
    how is this different from something like the BlackRapid straps?

    No strap...cheap effective solution. Watch the video.
  • ivarivar Registered Users Posts: 8,395 Major grins
    edited November 17, 2010
    Ric Grupe wrote: »
    No strap...cheap effective solution. Watch the video.
    I did, but I don't get it headscratch.gif
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  • cab.in.bostoncab.in.boston Registered Users Posts: 634 Major grins
    edited November 17, 2010
    Looks to me (but I didn't watch the video) as just an alternate location to attach your normal strap so it's less in the way when shooting. So you hang your camera upside down, but still around your neck as opposed to the nifty sliding of the BR or the like.
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  • Art ScottArt Scott Registered Users Posts: 8,959 Major grins
    edited November 17, 2010
    For $35 you get a special "bolt" that YOUR camera strap attaches too....

    as for the pledges.....they are trying to use YOUR money to start production....

    they could spend less than $5K on 1 small CNC mill and a couple of vises and be in business....
    cosrt to produce would probably be around $2-4 each.......but I do not want
    anything screwed into the bottom of my camera that keeps me from having my quick release
    on my camera................
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  • Ric GrupeRic Grupe Registered Users Posts: 9,522 Major grins
    edited November 17, 2010
    Art Scott wrote: »
    For $35 you get a special "bolt" that YOUR camera strap attaches too....

    as for the pledges.....they are trying to use YOUR money to start production....

    they could spend less than $5K on 1 small CNC mill and a couple of vises and be in business....
    cosrt to produce would probably be around $2-4 each.......but I do not want
    anything screwed into the bottom of my camera that keeps me from having my quick release
    on my camera................

    You're mostly right, Art. Where you are wrong is in the cost/unit due to the swivel aspect.

    BTW...in another life I was a machine builder/design engineer in a small shop.
  • Dan7312Dan7312 Registered Users Posts: 1,330 Major grins
    edited November 19, 2010
    Screw the C-loop into an Arca style quick release clamp instead of the camera. Then you can still leave the plate/l-bracket on the camera. That's what I do with my BR strap.
    Art Scott wrote: »
    anything screwed into the bottom of my camera that keeps me from having my quick release
    on my camera................
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  • mudanomanmudanoman Registered Users Posts: 1 Beginner grinner
    edited November 21, 2010
    Good idea Dan regarding the Arca Swiss QR.

    Ric - did you see a close up of the C-Loop gadget:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAb2rAggHvA

    Any thoughts as a machine builder / design engineer?
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited November 21, 2010
    For quite a long time I've been using OpTech Pro-Loop straps.
    Recently, however, I switched to BlackRapid R2 outdoors, no strap for the studio/minor trips - and have no desire to go back. I have no wish to feel several pounds hanging on my neck. And in a studio any strap is a only an obstacle that gets in your way and causes more harrasement than good (it's actually potentially dangerous).
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  • Ric GrupeRic Grupe Registered Users Posts: 9,522 Major grins
    edited November 23, 2010
    mudanoman wrote: »
    Good idea Dan regarding the Arca Swiss QR.

    Ric - did you see a close up of the C-Loop gadget:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAb2rAggHvA

    Any thoughts as a machine builder / design engineer?

    Thanks...I forgot about this thread.

    Looks good to me...simple designs are usually the best.

    I'll buy one if they become available. Inexpensive enough.
  • Ric GrupeRic Grupe Registered Users Posts: 9,522 Major grins
    edited November 23, 2010
    Nikolai wrote: »
    For quite a long time I've been using OpTech Pro-Loop straps.

    Me too.
    Recently, however, I switched to BlackRapid R2 outdoors, no strap for the studio/minor trips - and have no desire to go back.
    Ditto.
    I have no wish to feel several pounds hanging on my neck.
    Amen!

    I think this gadget would be nice for that FinePix X100.wings.gif
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited November 23, 2010
    While I'm sure they did some testing, an engineer in me is not liking the fact the the "ears" are parallel to the camera botton and as thus are most strong in the same plane, while the actual usage suggest the strap will be pulling at 90 degrees to the body, i.e. in the direction of the assembly' key element greatest weakness. ne_nau.gif
    I find BlackRapid connector much more elegant, engineeringly solid, while still very easy to use (and don't forget it has a nice carabiner for a quick release - a feature missing with C-loop:-)deal.gif
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  • Ric GrupeRic Grupe Registered Users Posts: 9,522 Major grins
    edited November 23, 2010
    Nikolai wrote: »
    While I'm sure they did some testing, an engineer in me is not liking the fact the the "ears" are parallel to the camera botton and as thus are most strong in the same plane, while the actual usage suggest the strap will be pulling at 90 degrees to the body, i.e. in the direction of the assembly' key element greatest weakness.

    Since the strap is mounted on both sides of center, the greatest force is being exerted on the bolt itself. The breaking strength of a 1/4 x 40 steel bolt is over 4000 lbs. No need to worry. The design is sound.

    Not that I'm real fond of that flip up piece for screwing. They could have just left that off completely. A knurled edge or a lip would do.
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited November 23, 2010
    Ric Grupe wrote: »
    Since the strap is mounted on both sides of center, the greatest force is being exerted on the bolt itself. The breaking strength of a 1/4 x 40 steel bolt is over 4000 lbs. No need to worry. The design is sound.
    I'm sure it'll hold. It's just not elegant. They're using material strength to overcome the inherent design flaw.ne_nau.gif
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  • Ric GrupeRic Grupe Registered Users Posts: 9,522 Major grins
    edited November 23, 2010
    Nikolai wrote: »
    They're using material strength to overcome the inherent design flaw.ne_nau.gif
    rolleyes1.gifif it works for the intended purpose....come on, Nik.
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited November 23, 2010
    Ric Grupe wrote: »
    rolleyes1.gifif it works for the intended purpose....come on, Nik.
    I't like using 10000000000 lumen light with a very dark filter in front of it cause all you need is f/2.8 mwink.gif
    Works, but there are better ways to achieve the results...ne_nau.gif
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  • Ric GrupeRic Grupe Registered Users Posts: 9,522 Major grins
    edited November 23, 2010
    Nikolai wrote: »
    I't like using 10000000000 lumen light with a very dark filter in front of it cause all you need is f/2.8 mwink.gif
    Works, but there are better ways to achieve the results...ne_nau.gif

    My point is that you are overstating an insignificant point...which can be summed up with "I don't like it". Which is fine.
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited November 23, 2010
    Ric Grupe wrote: »
    My point is that you are overstating an insignificant point...which can be summed up with "I don't like it". Which is fine.

    I didn't say that. :nono
    My summary is 'good idea, could have a better implementation'. deal.gifwinkrolleyes1.gif
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  • Ric GrupeRic Grupe Registered Users Posts: 9,522 Major grins
    edited November 23, 2010
    Nikolai wrote: »
    I didn't say that. :nono
    My summary is 'good idea, could have a better implementation'. deal.gifwinkrolleyes1.gif

    I don't think you know WHAT you are saying. headscratch.gif

    You just go in circles. I'm done here.
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited November 23, 2010
    Ric Grupe wrote: »
    I don't think you know WHAT you are saying. headscratch.gif

    You just go in circles. I'm done here.

    That's plain rude. deal.gif
    Relax, it's almost Thanskgiving! mwink.gif
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  • ian408ian408 Administrators Posts: 21,940 moderator
    edited November 23, 2010
    Nikolai wrote: »
    I't like using 10000000000 lumen light with a very dark filter in front of it cause all you need is f/2.8 mwink.gif
    Works, but there are better ways to achieve the results...ne_nau.gif

    Or like using 11 lights to light something where three would do?
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  • ian408ian408 Administrators Posts: 21,940 moderator
    edited November 23, 2010
    Ric Grupe wrote: »
    Not that I'm real fond of that flip up piece for screwing. They could have just left that off completely. A knurled edge or a lip would do.

    I'm not sure how long that "flip" piece will stay latched--I guess I see it losing it's tension (am I expressing that correctly?) and staying open after a while.

    It's an interesting idea and the notion of community funding to develop a product is pretty cool.
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