What do pressure changes do to a camera?

ivarivar Registered Users Posts: 8,395 Major grins
edited December 1, 2010 in Cameras
What do pressure changes do to a camera? Some cameras are already weatherproof, cameras in general and lenses are manufactured to tight specs, how much air does come through?

Let's say I take my camera flying for about an hour; pressure goes down, pressure goes up.

Can it 'suck in' dust when the surrounding pressure goes up again? can it damage/shift lens-alignment?



I'm not sure it does, it may not do anything. I was just wondering, if anyone had any more knowledge/info about it :ear

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  • ziggy53ziggy53 Super Moderators Posts: 24,130 moderator
    edited November 24, 2010
    I have not heard of any lenses damaged due to changes in atmospheric pressure, even rapid changes. Yes, there could be an introduction of dust as the lens "breathes", but I have not heard of this being a specific problem.

    If anything, some camera cases are sealed well enough that I have heard of them being difficult to open after flying at altitude and returning to sea level (for instance). I have a Doskocil Seal-Tight case with a "pressure control valve" for just that occasion. (I believe that cockpit/cabin pressure is generally at 14,000 feet or better but that some luggage compartments are less sealed, causing more of any barometric problems.)
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  • ivarivar Registered Users Posts: 8,395 Major grins
    edited November 24, 2010
    ziggy53 wrote: »
    (I believe that cockpit/cabin pressure is generally at 14,000 feet or better but that some luggage compartments are less sealed, causing more of any barometric problems.)
    It's actually 8000' or lower, so even better. At 14000 you'd be wearing oxygen masks lol3.gif Depending on the aircraft, I guess, but most aircraft cargo compartments are also pressure controlled.

    Thanks for the info, Ziggy thumb.gif I didn't think it would cause too many problems, but it was just wondering about it for some reason.
  • insanefredinsanefred Registered Users Posts: 604 Major grins
    edited November 24, 2010
    ivar wrote: »
    What do pressure changes do to a camera? Some cameras are already weatherproof, cameras in general and lenses are manufactured to tight specs, how much air does come through?

    Let's say I take my camera flying for about an hour; pressure goes down, pressure goes up.

    Can it 'suck in' dust when the surrounding pressure goes up again? can it damage/shift lens-alignment?



    I'm not sure it does, it may not do anything. I was just wondering, if anyone had any more knowledge/info about it ear.gif


    You mean, "environmental seals", not weather proof.
    environmental seals means nothing to users, no camera except possibly custom batches like what Nikon makes for NASA, are pressure resistant.
    It just means that drop of water won't go straight to the circuit board, it will just have one more obstacle.
    As for sheer pressure levels, there shouldn't be any obvious changes, thing like temperature, humidity and etc.. will effect the camera first. Unless, of course, what Ziggy says, 14,000'.
  • ivarivar Registered Users Posts: 8,395 Major grins
    edited November 24, 2010
    insanefred wrote: »
    You mean, "environmental seals", not weather proof.
    environmental seals means nothing to users, no camera except possibly custom batches like what Nikon makes for NASA, are pressure resistant.
    It just means that drop of water won't go straight to the circuit board, it will just have one more obstacle.
    As for sheer pressure levels, there shouldn't be any obvious changes, thing like temperature, humidity and etc.. will effect the camera first. Unless, of course, what Ziggy says, 14,000'.
    I know weatherproofing (Canon term; okay, not the same as 'weatherproof', but understandable enough for most I think) doesn't make the camera/lens comletely airtight/pressure resistant/etc, but I was wondering to what degree it does, if any, since I fly regularly with a camera.

    The difference, pressure-wise, between ground level and 8000' is relatively small so I'm not to worried, really.
    Humidity in the airplane is really low which doesn't affect the camera in a bad way I think. Temperature stays fairly constant, so I'm not worried about those in this case. (14,000' is a 'known' altitude in aviation with regards to oxygen but has to do with requirements only)
  • NeilLNeilL Registered Users Posts: 4,201 Major grins
    edited November 24, 2010
    Make its ears pop!

    No, seriously, there's a use for that DP space Richy has been expatiating on - a pressure equaliser button! (Well, doesn't it make as much sense as more megapixels on the APC and a third processor to treat the noise?!)

    Neil
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  • time2smiletime2smile Registered Users Posts: 835 Major grins
    edited November 26, 2010
    Never heard of an issue ether, and being a former CAP (Cival Air Patrol) member, spotters have never reported their lens were damaged in flights.
    Ted....
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  • pilotdavepilotdave Registered Users Posts: 785 Major grins
    edited November 29, 2010
    ivar wrote: »
    What do pressure changes do to a camera? Some cameras are already weatherproof, cameras in general and lenses are manufactured to tight specs, how much air does come through?

    Let's say I take my camera flying for about an hour; pressure goes down, pressure goes up.

    I have some experience in this area:

    111533050_AHAdE-L-3.jpg

    No problems with rather sudden pressure changes... repeated hundreds of times. Tested thoroughly on a Rebel XT, XTi, 50D, and 7D. :D

    They also all do fine when exposed to 120+ mph wind, in case anyone needed to know.

    Dave
  • NeilLNeilL Registered Users Posts: 4,201 Major grins
    edited November 29, 2010
    pilotdave wrote: »
    I have some experience in this area:No problems with rather sudden pressure changes... repeated hundreds of times. Tested thoroughly on a Rebel XT, XTi, 50D, and 7D. :D

    They also all do fine when exposed to 120+ mph wind, in case anyone needed to know.

    Dave

    Thanks, Dave, dramatic photo!

    Tell me, did you try the print button at the same time?mwink.gif

    Neil
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  • pilotdavepilotdave Registered Users Posts: 785 Major grins
    edited November 29, 2010
    NeilL wrote: »
    Thanks, Dave, dramatic photo!

    Tell me, did you try the print button at the same time?mwink.gif

    Neil

    Ha, when I find a long enough USB cable, I'll give it a try. :D

    Dave
  • ian408ian408 Administrators Posts: 21,939 moderator
    edited November 29, 2010
    I've never looked but the manual might give you this detail in both operating and non-operating conditions. Or maybe the website?
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  • roakeyroakey Registered Users Posts: 81 Big grins
    edited November 30, 2010
    Though not directly related to your question I once traveled from 7,000+ feet in Colorado to sea level with a Nikonos with a lens mounted. Absolutely no way to get the back open when I arrived (remember when the backs opened on cameras? :-)), and getting the lens off was a bear, but once I did everything was fine.

    That was a learning experience!

    Roak
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  • dbddbd Registered Users Posts: 216 Major grins
    edited November 30, 2010
    ivar wrote: »
    What do pressure changes do to a camera?

    I'm not sure it does, it may not do anything. I was just wondering, if anyone had any more knowledge/info about it ear.gif

    Pressure doesn't seem to be required by some cameras:

    http://www.myspacemuseum.com/apollocams.htm

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  • PhotoskipperPhotoskipper Registered Users Posts: 453 Major grins
    edited December 1, 2010
    I don't think there is any problem with the pressure changes.
    My 5D and mark II have been travelling with me for hundred trips without any issue. I carried it from sealevel straight to Tibet (3500 meters or 10,000 ft), all lens (24-105, 70-200 and 17-40) worked fine.

    the only problem I had was the lenses got condensation when returned to the tropical island country. Transferred direct from the bag to dry box resolved the problem.
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