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WolfWolf Registered Users Posts: 154 Major grins
edited July 1, 2004 in Holy Macro
I was out taking a few shots last night and I grabbed this one. Any comments?
Not sure if I like it or not...

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    BodwickBodwick Registered Users Posts: 396 Major grins
    edited June 30, 2004
    Tracks
    How about using the corners of the frame to bring your tracks into line next time....
    I might have framed it as attached.

    Wolf wrote:
    I was out taking a few shots last night and I grabbed this one. Any comments?
    Not sure if I like it or not...
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    wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited June 30, 2004
    That's an interesting question, Wolf. I'm always interested in composition, and like to figure out why things work or don't work.

    IMHO the shot does not work. But if I believe that, I figure I should be able to say why. So here goes. I think there's about a third, maybe more, of the shot that's kinda wasted, doesn't feel like it belongs, is extraneous. It's the part to the right of tracks. The way the tracks run through the shot, leads the eye from the left corner, and eventually sort of to the upper middle. The left side is therefore embraced, but the right side is rejected. I think.

    Also, I'm not really sure that the shot begins in the left corner. The two rails are so split at the beginning, the feel like they start in two different neighborhoods. And where they ultimately end is kind of inconclusive as well.

    I guess I feel that the rails, instead of pulling the eye through the shot and holding everything together, instead split the frame into separate elements. So instead of feeling strong and unified, the shot feels fragmented.

    Think anyone else agrees? ne_nau.gif As I said, I think you're asking an interesting question. I'm really curious to hear what others have to say.
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    mercphotomercphoto Registered Users Posts: 4,550 Major grins
    edited June 30, 2004
    Rr
    Wolf wrote:
    I was out taking a few shots last night and I grabbed this one. Any comments?
    Not sure if I like it or not...

    I'm not sure either. The strong element is the right-hand rail, which runs nearly straight vertical, and nearly dead-center. This splits the image in two. The left rail runs a little diagonal and is somewhat interesting. So the left half of the picture has something interesting, but the right half does not.

    But I do like the asymetry in the two rails. In other words they are not both angled towards infinity -- one is vertical to infinity, the other is angled to infinity. That part I do like.
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    BoomerangNetwork.comBoomerangNetwork.com Registered Users Posts: 63 Big grins
    edited July 1, 2004
    Bodwick wrote:
    How about using the corners of the frame to bring your tracks into line next time....
    I might have framed it as attached.
    I agree. The image has more leading lines if the track connects to the corner.
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    DewrGleisionDewrGleision Registered Users Posts: 159 Major grins
    edited July 1, 2004
    Actually, I like the original composition, if I might be so bold as to say so...
    I like how the different lines of the same subject have different beginnings throughout the "latitude" (right term? Maybe vertical axis?), and I like how its a bit off-centered, revealing not oo much of any one thing... Of course, just my screwy tastes/perceptions, but I like it anywho.
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    cmr164cmr164 Registered Users Posts: 1,542 Major grins
    edited July 1, 2004
    Wolf wrote:
    I was out taking a few shots last night and I grabbed this one. Any comments?
    Not sure if I like it or not...
    Train tracks are hard. My take on your shot is that if you go with Bodwick's suggested crop that you leave a little more sky at the top. Alternately start with your original, leave the top/left/bottom alone and only crop from the right side enough to put the right hand track 1/3 from the right edge.

    My stab at doing tracks and perhaps good examples of other issues are:

    I like this idea but I do not think I did a good job of it.
    florida04feb45_s.jpg

    Or:

    From well from to the side this uses the flow of the buildings to balance the tracks
    http://www.iisc.com/dgrin/florida04feb42_s.jpg

    This has a lead from the left to slightly to the right of center.
    http://www.iisc.com/dgrin/florida04feb46_s.jpg

    This last is an example of the track leading from the left corner with the finish point at the 1/3 point.
    http://www.iisc.com/dgrin/florida04feb47_s.jpg
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    WolfWolf Registered Users Posts: 154 Major grins
    edited July 1, 2004
    Thanks for all of your comments. It is really good to get others ideas on perspective. I am going to work on this one some more. I really appreciate all of you taking the time to comment! Thanks so much!!
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    pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,699 moderator
    edited July 1, 2004
    cmr164 wrote:
    Train tracks are hard.
    I agree - tracks are not inherently that interesting - sometimes a human figure can help? Maybe??

    3248881-L.jpg

    or like this if your party is adventuresome.....

    3248884-L.jpg
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    wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited July 1, 2004
    That shadow has a lot of potential.
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    WolfWolf Registered Users Posts: 154 Major grins
    edited July 1, 2004
    oh, the possibilities...
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    pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,699 moderator
    edited July 1, 2004
    Wolf wrote:
    oh, the possibilities...
    The railroad trestle does have interesting possibilities for shadows and I hope to get there some time this year in the late afternoon and perhaps after a snowfall as well. This will have to suffice for now....

    3250372-L.jpg
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    mercphotomercphoto Registered Users Posts: 4,550 Major grins
    edited July 1, 2004
    RR Images
    Some cool other RR photos from people. Maybe the thing about RR track photos isn't the track itself, but what is around the tracks. Trestles and bridges, crossing guards, the landscape, maybe a boxcar or engine, etc. Anyone else getting that impression?

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    WolfWolf Registered Users Posts: 154 Major grins
    edited July 1, 2004
    For me, its the tracks.. lonely, desolate, vanishing in the distance...
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    pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,699 moderator
    edited July 1, 2004
    wxwax wrote:
    That shadow has a lot of potential.
    The fellow lying on the track has about 180 feet of vertical potential energy if he is not careful also.....Laughing.gif


    Shadows are better in B&W sometimes..


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