I chose raw on the [poll....but you were actually missing an option...Raw+jpeg....which is what I actually shoot......
There are times when the sooc jpeg is good enuff for a client for printing but I want that raw file to work on if need be.....
I take lots of time in shot prep to cut down on PP...so I am ecstatic when I get great jpegs sooc......
Art, I agree with shooting both at the same time. Will save you one day. I'm just trying to impress on beginners the importance of shooting raw for a better file and to not be afraid of it.
Raw, unless there's a very compelling reason to shoot jpg (eg frame rate, problem with memory space, especially requested by auspices ie when I did the Strobist shoot, need to present many images without a chance to process manually etc)
Especially for the variable light in my theatre shoots it's very helpful.
Richy, sorry I took it the wrong way. You're correct on hard to read tone over the net. Anyway too old to worry about it. Have a great Merry Christmas to you and you group.
If your really smart and have the money you should shoot both. But in real life with beginngers thru professionals it is amazing how many do one or the other. Never meant to be scientific. Like in life.....you can't please everyone so one should stop trying.
I voted raw because I use the raw files 99.99% of the time. The only reason I shoot raw+jpg (instead of just raw) is so I can preview the images faster, and delete both raws and jpg (since jpgs are faster to view than raws). I then delete the jpgs and PP the raws.
This question can be a little misleading as it is not often a selection, it is decided by the hardware. I have a P & S that does not shoot RAW, so I shoot JPG with it. On my DSLR I shoot RAW most of the time, but not exclusively. There is always a trade off between the options. RAW requires a little more in the workflow; but since the information is not already decimated (true annotation, not connotation) it provides for less errors when doing mathematical adjustments (post processing). Is it better? Your choice and opinion, to me getting the shot in the first place is the important part. Prefer RAW but not going to go nuts if situational boundaries make it JPG as I have as many good JPG pictures as I do RAW.
My DMC-ZS7 does not shoot RAW, but but does shoot tiffs or jpgs. I use either depending on my intentions for the image. I can get grainless 8x10s from it.
I shoot jpg more and more these days. I use an expodisc and get near perfect results sooc, both white balance and exposure. Really saves time in post processing.
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I usually have someone do the post-processing and zipping up a ton of RAWs and transmitting them is no fun. I'll flip to RAW for a few shots if I don't feel I have good control of exposure or white balance in some situations.
But if it's a landscape or HDR? RAW at 100 ISO. Totally different from a wedding or other big event.
I usually have someone do the post-processing and zipping up a ton of RAWs and transmitting them is no fun. I'll flip to RAW for a few shots if I don't feel I have good control of exposure or white balance in some situations.
Who do you outsource your editing with? I've been thinking about doing this for a while.
I'm also interested, I'd still outsource suppin an tuppin before PP but it seems popular, perhaps time for a rethink lol
I hear shootdotedit is really good. and I have some photographer friends that do editing too.. Just curious if he uses a different company than what I'm checking out.
I started out shooting RAW but I found that it was too tedious to process. I'm sure there are a few good images that got away because I didn't shoot RAW, but the rest of the images I shot without having to convert them made it worthwhile. Not to say there isn't a benefit to shooting raw. I think if I were trying to eek out every detail in my image, I would be a RAW freak...
I started shooting only RAW a couple of years ago and just learned how to best work with that format. To me shooting jpegs is like shooting film and only getting 4x6 prints back from the lab without the negatives. There are too many options available when shooting RAW that are not as available with jpeg. I also prefer to process the images myself rather than let the camera decide what looks best. When we shoot jpeg the camera makes a lot of decisions about how the image will look, when we shoot RAW, we get to decide. Storage is my biggest problem with shooting RAW. I have plenty of storage and it costs less for external hard drives these days, it is more about connecting all the storage. I have about 16TB of external hard drives and it is a real pain to get them all cataloged in Lightroom. There is also an issue with daisy chaining all those drives, especially with Firewire 800. I'll still shoot RAW no matter what.
JMichaelK, any need to keep all those images on-line at all times? One thing I always liked about iView Media Pro was how it would store thumbnails only locally and allow you to look at small versions of your images, still apply keywords and rankings, organize images into groups and collections, while the large files are offline on some disk in a closet somewhere. Very handy.
Can you have multiple Lightroom catalogs, one for each driver perhaps?
As per the camera making decisions for you, I agree. Remember everyone, ALL OF US SHOOT IN RAW. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US. The only differences is, is the RAW converter you use inside your camera, or is it on your computer? Once you get your head around this concept the whole question of "raw versus jpg" takes on a whole new slant.
JMichaelK, any need to keep all those images on-line at all times? One thing I always liked about iView Media Pro was how it would store thumbnails only locally and allow you to look at small versions of your images, still apply keywords and rankings, organize images into groups and collections, while the large files are offline on some disk in a closet somewhere. Very handy.
Can you have multiple Lightroom catalogs, one for each driver perhaps?
As per the camera making decisions for you, I agree. Remember everyone, ALL OF US SHOOT IN RAW. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US. The only differences is, is the RAW converter you use inside your camera, or is it on your computer? Once you get your head around this concept the whole question of "raw versus jpg" takes on a whole new slant.
I have my Lightroom set to discard the 1:1 previews after a week, which I believe means that only a preview image is stored. I also start a new catalog with every new hard drive. The issue is that when hard drives go bad and that happens more than I prefer, I end creating a new catalog of the same images on a new hard drive. It is more about keeping up with everything and maintaining some order. I keep most of my hard drives turned off when not in use, but sometimes I need them all on when searching for a certain image. After spending quite a bit of time talking with the tech guys at different hard drive manufacturers I have discovered that daisy chaining lots of hard drives is bad for the drives, especially when using firewire 800. There is a new USB 3 coming out which hopefully eliminate some of the issues I am having.
I'm one of those people that usually shoots RAW only, but sometimes
switches over to .jpg only for action shots on a bright and sunny day
where I'm taking burst multiple images to freeze action. Sports, usually.
The only time this has been a problem is when I forget to change
back to RAW when I change scenes or subject matter. Invariably,
there's a capture that I wish was a RAW capture.
when i am doing some fancy work and am taking less than 300 shots i will use raw. if i am at the track and shooting i will use jpg cause i will have about 2600 shots before the day is out
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There are times when the sooc jpeg is good enuff for a client for printing but I want that raw file to work on if need be.....
I take lots of time in shot prep to cut down on PP...so I am ecstatic when I get great jpegs sooc......
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Thank you for that link! Best article on RAW vs JPEG I ever read.
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Especially for the variable light in my theatre shoots it's very helpful.
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My DMC-ZS7 does not shoot RAW, but but does shoot tiffs or jpgs. I use either depending on my intentions for the image. I can get grainless 8x10s from it.
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I usually have someone do the post-processing and zipping up a ton of RAWs and transmitting them is no fun. I'll flip to RAW for a few shots if I don't feel I have good control of exposure or white balance in some situations.
But if it's a landscape or HDR? RAW at 100 ISO. Totally different from a wedding or other big event.
Who do you outsource your editing with? I've been thinking about doing this for a while.
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I hear shootdotedit is really good. and I have some photographer friends that do editing too.. Just curious if he uses a different company than what I'm checking out.
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Can you have multiple Lightroom catalogs, one for each driver perhaps?
As per the camera making decisions for you, I agree. Remember everyone, ALL OF US SHOOT IN RAW. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US. The only differences is, is the RAW converter you use inside your camera, or is it on your computer? Once you get your head around this concept the whole question of "raw versus jpg" takes on a whole new slant.
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switches over to .jpg only for action shots on a bright and sunny day
where I'm taking burst multiple images to freeze action. Sports, usually.
The only time this has been a problem is when I forget to change
back to RAW when I change scenes or subject matter. Invariably,
there's a capture that I wish was a RAW capture.
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In your experience, how do JPEGs handle the post-processing?
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