another sunset

Blues fanBlues fan Registered Users Posts: 67 Big grins
edited September 16, 2005 in Landscapes
I took this photo while passing through Ventura CA on vacation and wanted to know some other opinions on this sunset. I am not sure which I like better. I like portions of both but not dead set on one or the other. It is the same picture just different levels of post work done on them.

1. Closest to the original shot.
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2. with more post work

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Any ideas on how to make the photo better. I can't reshoot it since I am in Kansas but for the next trip I take or next similar photo op I get I would like to take some better pics.

Thanks ahead of time.
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  • thdizzythdizzy Registered Users Posts: 262 Major grins
    edited September 15, 2005
    Less post work...I live in Ventura County, know the spot, and the first capture was right on.
    Todd Disraeli - Star, Idaho

    Disraeli Photography

    "Only when the last tree has died, the last river poisoned, and the last fish been caught will we realize we cannot eat money" Cree Indian Proverb
  • gubbsgubbs Registered Users Posts: 3,166 Major grins
    edited September 15, 2005
    I like elements of both too, the sky and sea from the 1st and the sand with a little more detail from the 2nd. You could blend the 2 together. :D
  • DixieDixie Registered Users Posts: 1,497 Major grins
    edited September 15, 2005
    I think that Gubbs means something similar to the example below.

    Create an adjustment layer. In this case the bottom layer was lightened and then I selectively erased the top (darker) layer to allow the lighter beach and some of the water to show throught. Then merge the two layers into the finished photo. Much easier to do if you do the adjustments prior to adding the frame. :D
    Dixie
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  • USAIRUSAIR Registered Users Posts: 2,646 Major grins
    edited September 15, 2005
    Dixie wrote:
    I think that Gubbs means something similar to the example below.

    Create an adjustment layer. In this case the bottom layer was lightened and then I selectively erased the top (darker) layer to allow the lighter beach and some of the water to show throught. Then merge the two layers into the finished photo. Much easier to do if you do the adjustments prior to adding the frame. :D
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  • AngeloAngelo Super Moderators Posts: 8,937 moderator
    edited September 15, 2005
  • grimacegrimace Registered Users Posts: 1,537 Major grins
    edited September 15, 2005
    Great work Dixie!!
    Unbelievable work Dixie. I think I need to spend an hour or two with you in front of the computer and steal some ideas/tricks!!

    What software are you using to enhance your photos?

    -Adam

    www.adamstravelphotoghaphy.com
  • Blues fanBlues fan Registered Users Posts: 67 Big grins
    edited September 16, 2005
    grimace wrote:
    What software are you using to enhance your photos?
    grimace, Is this for me or Dixie, I am assuming me, if so I am using photoshop CS
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  • thdizzythdizzy Registered Users Posts: 262 Major grins
    edited September 16, 2005
    Blues fan wrote:
    grimace, Is this for me or Dixie, I am assuming me, if so I am using photoshop CS
    The question was for Dixie I believe.
    Todd Disraeli - Star, Idaho

    Disraeli Photography

    "Only when the last tree has died, the last river poisoned, and the last fish been caught will we realize we cannot eat money" Cree Indian Proverb
  • DixieDixie Registered Users Posts: 1,497 Major grins
    edited September 16, 2005
    grimace wrote:
    Unbelievable work Dixie. I think I need to spend an hour or two with you in front of the computer and steal some ideas/tricks!!

    What software are you using to enhance your photos?

    -Adam

    www.adamstravelphotoghaphy.com
    Adam, I use Adobe Photoshop CS2. I think it was PS v2 that I originally started with years ago. My trip took me through versions 3, 4, 5, 5.5, 7, CS and finally CS2. Don't remember why, but I never liked v6 so skipped it.
    Dixie
    Photographs by Dixie
    | Canon 1Ds | Canon 5D Mark II | Canon 5D | Canon 50D | Canon 10D | Canon EOS Elan 7 | Mamiya Pro S RB67 |
    ...and bunches of Canon lenses - I'm equipment rich and dollar poor!
  • DRT-MaverickDRT-Maverick Registered Users Posts: 476 Major grins
    edited September 16, 2005
    Heya dixie, I like the conversion you did. Have you tried using the Highlights/Shadows tool? How does that work in comparison to what you've done?
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  • DixieDixie Registered Users Posts: 1,497 Major grins
    edited September 16, 2005
    I use highlight/shadows, but prefer using curves and levels first. You have to watchout for haloing (lightening of an area immediately adjacent to where dark and light areas join) when using h/s if the differences are extreme. I know that there is probably an official name for what happens, but it eludes me at this hour. ...and of course, it depends upon the photo as well. Some are more suited for h/s and others for curves and levels. If a photo has highlights and shadows heavily mixed then I tend to use h/s. Of course, I do as much as I can during the initial import of the RAW file into PS working with exposure, shadows, brightness, contrast, etc. with the goal being to have to do as few adjustments as possible when the import is completed in PS.

    In this particular case, I used levels and curves because the entire photo was dark. If I had been working with a RAW file I would have probably made two imports of the same file for the two layers adjusting the exposure for each with one for the areas I wanted to lighten and the other for the layer I wanted to keep dark.

    One of the beauties (or disadvantages depending upon how you look at it) of PS is that there is usually more than one way to get the same results and sometimes more than two ways. Each person has to determine the workflow which works best for them. Again, there is no one correct way to achieve the end result you wish and in many cases there are several. A person just has to pick what works best for them.
    Dixie
    Photographs by Dixie
    | Canon 1Ds | Canon 5D Mark II | Canon 5D | Canon 50D | Canon 10D | Canon EOS Elan 7 | Mamiya Pro S RB67 |
    ...and bunches of Canon lenses - I'm equipment rich and dollar poor!
  • DRT-MaverickDRT-Maverick Registered Users Posts: 476 Major grins
    edited September 16, 2005
    Well I actually need training in the area of Curves. Any chance you could help me out?
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  • DixieDixie Registered Users Posts: 1,497 Major grins
    edited September 16, 2005
    Here are a few links which will get you started.

    Curves for Contrast

    Curves for Color Balance

    Curves for Adjusting Exposure

    There are other links on the pages which should help. Curves do so much that it is really hard to get into the nuances in a discussion forum, but if you have specific questions I (and I know others) will do what they can to try and help you find the answers.

    Here is a general link to the PS Tutorial page on the web site.
    Dixie
    Photographs by Dixie
    | Canon 1Ds | Canon 5D Mark II | Canon 5D | Canon 50D | Canon 10D | Canon EOS Elan 7 | Mamiya Pro S RB67 |
    ...and bunches of Canon lenses - I'm equipment rich and dollar poor!
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