Still underground....

bdcolenbdcolen Registered Users Posts: 3,804 Major grins
edited January 21, 2011 in Street and Documentary
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And..... Color?

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Or black and white?

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  • damonffdamonff Registered Users Posts: 1,894 Major grins
    edited January 19, 2011
    color - I love the red and yellow lines that she's between
  • FlyingginaFlyinggina Registered Users Posts: 2,639 Major grins
    edited January 19, 2011
    Color!
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  • rainbowrainbow Registered Users Posts: 2,765 Major grins
    edited January 20, 2011
    First one seems just to be a little too disconnected between the inside and outside views.

    Color on the second -- the red, yellow, orange and flesh stand out in stark contrast to the rest of the frame.
  • billseyebillseye Registered Users Posts: 847 Major grins
    edited January 20, 2011
    damonff wrote: »
    color - I love the red and yellow lines that she's between

    15524779-Ti.gif... with maybe a tad less saturation?
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  • bdcolenbdcolen Registered Users Posts: 3,804 Major grins
    edited January 20, 2011
    Thanks for the thoughtful comments. Rainbow, I get the comment, but the photo is about the disconnect - or is it a disconnect - look at the heavy clothing, the huddled riders, etc?

    As to the votes for color - and I was genuinely asking and amundecided myself...Note that you all voted for color commenting on the red and yellow lines. But the photo is not a photo of red and yellow lines, it is a photo of an isolated individual in the sterile emptiness of the subway station. So, does the color make the photo a photo of colored lines, and does that defeat its purpose. OR, is it a better photo of red and yellow lines than of what I thought it was of?

    As to the comment about over-saturation...I was responding to a request by my daughter that I make it darker. Here's the way I saw it originally.

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  • FlyingginaFlyinggina Registered Users Posts: 2,639 Major grins
    edited January 20, 2011
    For me, the red and yellow lines frame the subject sitting there alone on the bench. There is no doubt in my mind what the subject of the photograph is. For me, the background/surroundings enhance my experience of the subject's solitude and make it a more interesting - even more powerful - photograph.

    Va

    Oh and I love the first one - it is one of the best I have seen taken on that stretch of track.
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  • bdcolenbdcolen Registered Users Posts: 3,804 Major grins
    edited January 20, 2011
    Flyinggina wrote: »
    For me, the red and yellow lines frame the subject sitting there alone on the bench. There is no doubt in my mind what the subject of the photograph is. For me, the background/surroundings enhance my experience of the subject's solitude and make it a more interesting - even more powerful - photograph.

    Va

    Oh and I love the first one - it is one of the best I have seen taken on that stretch of track.

    Thanks, Virginia -
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  • RichardRichard Administrators, Vanilla Admin Posts: 19,961 moderator
    edited January 20, 2011
    I prefer the color over B&W mainly because her face stands out somewhat better. But for me the saturation works against the feeling of isolation and sterility, especially because red and yellow are warm colors. I would desaturate and darken the stripes a bit and see whether that works better for you.
  • sara505sara505 Registered Users Posts: 1,684 Major grins
    edited January 20, 2011
  • sara505sara505 Registered Users Posts: 1,684 Major grins
    edited January 20, 2011
    sara505 wrote: »
    Bw.
    Oh, and PS - as small and seemingly insignificant detail that it is, the "danger third rail" really is the frosting on the cake for this photo.

    Try covering it up with your thumb and you may agree.
  • bdcolenbdcolen Registered Users Posts: 3,804 Major grins
    edited January 20, 2011
    sara505 wrote: »
    Oh, and PS - as small and seemingly insignificant detail that it is, the "danger third rail" really is the frosting on the cake for this photo.

    Try covering it up with your thumb and you may agree.

    Absolutely. mwink.gif
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  • pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,708 moderator
    edited January 20, 2011
    Color, absolutely.

    But the picture is of the lady sitting there. Cover here up and the color photo collapses.

    I think the warm colors are a nice contrast to the cold sterility of the white porcelain walls and the green fluorescent light of the tunnel.

    I agree that "danger third rail" is a nice grace note in the foreground too. Not sure the fluorescent lights at the top are needed...
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  • JuanoJuano Registered Users Posts: 4,890 Major grins
    edited January 21, 2011
    rainbow wrote: »
    First one seems just to be a little too disconnected between the inside and outside views.

    Color on the second -- the red, yellow, orange and flesh stand out in stark contrast to the rest of the frame.

    I agree with Rainbow on both her comments. I really like the color one.
  • sara505sara505 Registered Users Posts: 1,684 Major grins
    edited January 21, 2011
    pathfinder wrote: »
    Color, absolutely.

    But the picture is of the lady sitting there. Cover here up and the color photo collapses.

    I think the warm colors are a nice contrast to the cold sterility of the white porcelain walls and the green fluorescent light of the tunnel.

    I agree that "danger third rail" is a nice grace note in the foreground too. Not sure the fluorescent lights at the top are needed...

    The lights do add another design element. The simplicity is nice, but remove the lights and it gets a little too simple, imo. I like them.
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