Sweet Urchin

NeilLNeilL Registered Users Posts: 4,201 Major grins
edited January 26, 2011 in People
I reprocessed all these from the RAWS, carefully using Bibble to force the exposure and colours to behave. Most of the casts have been cast out, and I think I have got the best possible out of them considering my style with them. The background is not actually grey, but beige, which causes a bit of a viewing problem since it is quite close to grey in the images and I think the eye wants to see grey. Any further comments are very welcome as usual.:thumb




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  • jirojiro Registered Users Posts: 1,865 Major grins
    edited January 23, 2011
    It's nice that you kept her "naturalness" on these images, Neil. I like them. The skin is a bit bright but other than that I find them OK. thumb.gifthumbthumb.gif
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  • NeilLNeilL Registered Users Posts: 4,201 Major grins
    edited January 23, 2011
    jiro wrote: »
    It's nice that you kept her "naturalness" on these images, Neil. I like them. The skin is a bit bright but other than that I find them OK. thumb.gifthumbthumb.gif

    Appreciate your looking and commenting, jiro, thanks!

    I'm glad you find the naturalness attractive, it was something I aimed for. I also aimed for the lighting not to attract attention to itself yet to define the image. I got part of the way there with these, but as you say, on #2 & 4 the highlights are pushed a little too much. The reason is that I made an error in exposure and used ISO 400. I should have kept it to 200 and used a slower shutter, I had some slack there.

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  • reyvee61reyvee61 Registered Users Posts: 1,877 Major grins
    edited January 24, 2011
    This is how kids should be photographed.....being themselves.
    Bravo!
    The third is my fave
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  • NeilLNeilL Registered Users Posts: 4,201 Major grins
    edited January 24, 2011
    reyvee61 wrote: »
    This is how kids should be photographed.....being themselves.
    Bravo!
    The third is my fave

    Thanks for the kind words Rey.

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  • NeilLNeilL Registered Users Posts: 4,201 Major grins
    edited January 24, 2011
    When I looked at these under more neutral light than when I processed them first I saw the skin had a magenta cast. I've tried to correct it in these reposted versions.

    I'd be very grateful to get feedback about any colour cast anyone sees in them now. The skin colours don't seem right to me yet.:cry

    Also if anyone knows a good method or program/app for fine tuning skin tones I'd be very interested!:D For example, does anyone know if you can treat colour casts in Imagenomic's Portraiture, and does it support ProPhotoRGB?

    Neil
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  • VA64SkyhawkVA64Skyhawk Registered Users Posts: 34 Big grins
    edited January 24, 2011
    Sweet little one! I see a slight greenish cast; there should be a bit more warmth in her skin texture.
  • NeilLNeilL Registered Users Posts: 4,201 Major grins
    edited January 24, 2011
    VA64Skyhawk wrote: »
    Sweet little one! I see a slight greenish cast; there should be a bit more warmth in her skin texture.

    Yes, thanks, that 's what I thought I was seeing. thumb.gif

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  • divamumdivamum Registered Users Posts: 9,021 Major grins
    edited January 24, 2011
    Some of the best of your shots I've seen, Neil - really nice. The light is fantastic - so bright, but still soft on her face. The last one is a teeny bit Lolita-ish for me, but then again - that's what tween girls can be like! 1&3 are my favorites. Great job! thumb.gif
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  • NeilLNeilL Registered Users Posts: 4,201 Major grins
    edited January 24, 2011
    Thanks for the kind words and the encouragement dm! I needed that after a couple hours struggle with colour casts! I think I might still have to go right back and reprocess them from the RAWS. I'd still be aiming for much the same result overall, but with improved skin colour. Yes this first set was her Lolita persona peeping out!

    I'll get to have a look at your latest tomorrow - it's 1.16am here now!eek7.gif

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  • SenecaSeneca Registered Users Posts: 1,661 Major grins
    edited January 24, 2011
    Number two is beautiful, I would almost like to see that one in B&W. Also, I would remove the stray-strands of hair from her face. She is a beautiful child. Good job.
  • briandelionbriandelion Registered Users Posts: 512 Major grins
    edited January 24, 2011
    thumb.gifVery nice portraits, Neil. 3 & 4 are my favorites. As far as color cast, I only notice the greenish cast on the left side on 1,2 & 3. Did you mix indoor and outdoor lighting? It's easy enough to select that area only and adjust if you're using Hue Saturation in PS. I agree w/ Seneca, some of these might look timeless in b&w.
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  • jdryan3jdryan3 Registered Users Posts: 1,353 Major grins
    edited January 24, 2011
    Nice shots Neil. The monitor I am using now is not calibrated but the fisrt 3 seem to have a green tint in part of the hair, less so in the skin, which may be an over-correction of your magenta issue, the way her black hair is coming out in the light/highlights, or maybe just this monitor.
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  • reyvee61reyvee61 Registered Users Posts: 1,877 Major grins
    edited January 24, 2011
    NeilL wrote: »
    When I looked at these under more neutral light than when I processed them first I saw the skin had a magenta cast. I've tried to correct it in these reposted versions.

    I'd be very grateful to get feedback about any colour cast anyone sees in them now. The skin colours don't seem right to me yet.:cry

    Also if anyone knows a good method or program/app for fine tuning skin tones I'd be very interested!:D For example, does anyone know if you can treat colour casts in Imagenomic's Portraiture, and does it support ProPhotoRGB?

    Neil

    The first three look similar in skin tone but the last one does appear more on the magenta side
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  • NeilLNeilL Registered Users Posts: 4,201 Major grins
    edited January 24, 2011
    Seneca wrote: »
    Number two is beautiful, I would almost like to see that one in B&W. Also, I would remove the stray-strands of hair from her face. She is a beautiful child. Good job.

    Thank you for looking and your very kind remarks, Seneca! I take your point about the stray hairs, and I tussled with to keep them or not. When I've got clear of the colour issue I'll get on to it!

    Neil
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  • NeilLNeilL Registered Users Posts: 4,201 Major grins
    edited January 24, 2011
    briandelion wrote: »
    thumb.gifVery nice portraits, Neil. 3 & 4 are my favorites. As far as color cast, I only notice the greenish cast on the left side on 1,2 & 3. Did you mix indoor and outdoor lighting? It's easy enough to select that area only and adjust if you're using Hue Saturation in PS. I agree w/ Seneca, some of these might look timeless in b&w.

    Appreciate your kind comments and the tips, briandelion! Yes looking again at them in the light of a new day I see the green tint and that the skin is washed out. The lighting was uncovered shade in the latter part of a sunny day. I've put your ideas in my growing collection!

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  • NeilLNeilL Registered Users Posts: 4,201 Major grins
    edited January 24, 2011
    jdryan3 wrote: »
    Nice shots Neil. The monitor I am using now is not calibrated but the fisrt 3 seem to have a green tint in part of the hair, less so in the skin, which may be an over-correction of your magenta issue, the way her black hair is coming out in the light/highlights, or maybe just this monitor.

    Good to get your feedback jdryan3! After sleeping on it I see now this morning the green tint, and the washed out skin colour, so I've got more challenge ahead of me! You're right that I didn't handle the magenta correction very expertly. The hair does have some colour in it, partly from the strong blue light from the sky - these were taken in open shade in late afternoon on a sunny day. There was a large tree in full leaf to one side so some green light would have been contributed by that. She also has a mix of browns and blacks naturally in her hair. I found the colours in her hair attractive and will try to keep them while I correct the skin.

    Neil
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  • NeilLNeilL Registered Users Posts: 4,201 Major grins
    edited January 24, 2011
    @ briandelion

    You are mightily perceptive and you have a mighty display to have picked the green tint on the left because there was a large tree in full leaf lit by the sun on the left of where we were shooting and that green light would have been on the skin and hair on that side.

    Marvelous pick up!clap.gif

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  • NeilLNeilL Registered Users Posts: 4,201 Major grins
    edited January 24, 2011
    reyvee61 wrote: »
    The first three look similar in skin tone but the last one does appear more on the magenta side

    Yes, I agree about the last one Rey, thanks!

    Neil
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  • NeilLNeilL Registered Users Posts: 4,201 Major grins
    edited January 26, 2011
    All now reprocessed, and I think better, thanks to your feedback!
    I reprocessed all these from the RAWS, carefully using Bibble to force the exposure and colours to behave. Most of the casts have been cast out, and I think I have got the best possible out of them considering my style with them. The background is not actually grey, but beige, which causes a bit of a viewing problem since it is quite close to grey in the images and I think the eye wants to see grey. Any further comments are very welcome as usual.thumb.gif
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