Fish

SyncopationSyncopation Registered Users Posts: 341 Major grins
edited January 30, 2011 in Street and Documentary
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Syncopation

The virtue of the camera is not the power it has to transform the photographer into an artist, but the impulse it gives him to keep on looking. - Brook Atkinson- 1951

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  • PattiPatti Registered Users Posts: 1,576 Major grins
    edited January 26, 2011
    I really enjoyed studying this shot enlarged via smugmug. There's so much going on - the young boy in the lower left risking injury to grab a fish by the man's foot, the action of the basket of fish falling from the man's hands on the right, the colour of the cases, the fishermen's rain gear. I also like the slope of the walkway. Wonderful!
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  • pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,708 moderator
    edited January 26, 2011
    Patti, would this be as good in B&W? Is the color essential, and if so, what is it about the yellow?

    I ask, because I have a suspicion that the yellow is important to this image...

    If you convert this image to B&W with a blue filter, the bright yellow tonality disappears, and the yellow rain gear all turns black, and that doesn't work nearly as well. Likewise a yellow filter conversion in PS, will convert the yellow raingear to a bright white, and again, it offends my eye. A green filter of some sort seems to work better, but I find I still miss the color.

    I am just curious if other folks react to this image similarly, because there is so much going on like you pointed out, but without the color........
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  • PattiPatti Registered Users Posts: 1,576 Major grins
    edited January 26, 2011
    pathfinder wrote: »
    Patti, would this be as good in B&W? Is the color essential, and if so, what is it about the yellow?

    I ask, because I have a suspicion that the yellow is important to this image...

    If you convert this image to B&W with a blue filter, the bright yellow tonality disappears, and the yellow rain gear all turns black, and that doesn't work nearly as well. Likewise a yellow filter conversion in PS, will convert the yellow raingear to a bright white, and again, it offends my eye. A green filter of some sort seems to work better, but I find I still miss the color.

    I am just curious if other folks react to this image similarly, because there is so much going on like you pointed out, but without the color........

    I'd agree that the yellow is important to the image. That's ok with me. I'd be interested to see it in B&W. I'm curious why you'd bother with filters in the conversion?
    The use of a camera is similar to that of a knife. You can use it to peel potatoes, or carve a flute. ~ E. Kahlmeyer
    ... I'm still peeling potatoes.

    patti hinton photography
  • pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,708 moderator
    edited January 27, 2011
    It is simple, fast, direct, and I wanted to see the different tonalities of the yellow displayed as dark, light, and mid-toned greys.



    Image>Adjustment>B&W> color sliders -- This used to be called Channel Mixer in older versions of Photoshop

    I agree, I think the warmth of the yellow is really important in this image.
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  • DonRicklinDonRicklin Registered Users Posts: 5,551 Major grins
    edited January 27, 2011
    This reminds me a lot of old oil paintings depicting everyday life scene, like this, with a Whole lot of Content!

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    Well seen and captured!

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  • RichardRichard Administrators, Vanilla Admin Posts: 19,961 moderator
    edited January 27, 2011
    pathfinder wrote: »
    I ask, because I have a suspicion that the yellow is important to this image...
    I don't exactly know why but yellow seems to be immensely appealing, even more than red. Yellow predominates in this shot, but it complements the blues and goes well with red, brown and green. I can't imagine this shot being as attractive in B&W.
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  • SyncopationSyncopation Registered Users Posts: 341 Major grins
    edited January 28, 2011
    I tried converting the shot to B&W and since the tonality of many of the colours is similar, much of the impact and detail is lost. For example the boy at the bottom left almost disappears.

    Colour wins hands down for me on this one.
    Syncopation

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  • jasonstonejasonstone Registered Users Posts: 735 Major grins
    edited January 28, 2011
    I agree with Don - it could almost be one of the oil paintings of everyday life - but with heaps packed in to one little image for maximum impact

    nice capture thumb.gif
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  • zoomerzoomer Registered Users Posts: 3,688 Major grins
    edited January 28, 2011
    Really like this shot. Lots of action and color.
    Feels like if it had been taken from just a bit further back and more of a pano....maybe next time :).
    My thought is that without the color, this would not be as interesting.
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  • DonRicklinDonRicklin Registered Users Posts: 5,551 Major grins
    edited January 28, 2011
    jasonstone wrote: »
    I agree with Don - it could almost be one of the oil paintings of everyday life - but with heaps packed in to one little image for maximum impact

    nice capture thumb.gif

    An alternative treatment maybe to take advantage of the similarity I spoke if and partially desaturate the image so they are not so garish.

    As with HDR many will prefer one way over the other. thumb.gifrolleyes1.gif

    :D

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  • pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,708 moderator
    edited January 28, 2011
    Modest desaturation might actually work rather nice, while retaining the tonalities associated with the yellow overalls.
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  • M38A1M38A1 Registered Users Posts: 1,317 Major grins
    edited January 28, 2011
    Really nice shot with all the colors going on. I have to say, the yellow makes the shot very appealing to me as well.
  • lizzard_nyclizzard_nyc Registered Users Posts: 4,056 Major grins
    edited January 28, 2011
    zoomer wrote: »
    Really like this shot. Lots of action and color.
    Feels like if it had been taken from just a bit further back and more of a pano....maybe next time :).
    My thought is that without the color, this would not be as interesting.


    Zoomer--I'm starting to notice your preference for panos.

    I really wish you had posted larger, there is definately so much to see!
    I like the one basket of fish in mid air.
    I can look at this photo for a while just to see what else I might be missing.
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  • DonRicklinDonRicklin Registered Users Posts: 5,551 Major grins
    edited January 28, 2011
    lizzard_nyc wrote: »
    Zoomer--I'm starting to notice your preference for panos.

    I really wish you had posted larger, there is definately so much to see!
    I like the one basket of fish in mid air.
    I can look at this photo for a while just to see what else I might be missing.
    Click on the image which takes you to the gallery and view O! :D

    Don
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  • bbjonesbbjones Registered Users Posts: 234 Major grins
    edited January 29, 2011
    I like the shark. :D

    And the seagulls, waiting for their chance.
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  • PattiPatti Registered Users Posts: 1,576 Major grins
    edited January 29, 2011
    lizzard_nyc wrote: »
    Zoomer--I'm starting to notice your preference for panos.

    I really wish you had posted larger, there is definately so much to see!
    I like the one basket of fish in mid air.
    I can look at this photo for a while just to see what else I might be missing.

    View it in his smugmug gallery Liz. When it's huge the details are incredible.
    The use of a camera is similar to that of a knife. You can use it to peel potatoes, or carve a flute. ~ E. Kahlmeyer
    ... I'm still peeling potatoes.

    patti hinton photography
  • rainbowrainbow Registered Users Posts: 2,765 Major grins
    edited January 30, 2011
    Love the shot, especially with the colors displayed. I do notice a slight leftward tilt to the shot -- not sure if this is deliberate or not.
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