Is this a scam or worse?

NeilLNeilL Registered Users Posts: 4,201 Major grins
edited January 28, 2011 in Finishing School
http://apple-downloads.com/

It's slick and elaborately set up, but the English betrays a non-native user, and the purchase page is http:// not https:// despite claims that it is secure.

It's one of those too-good-to-be-true offers, but too-good-to-ignore!:D

Any ideas?

Neil
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Comments

  • Art ScottArt Scott Registered Users Posts: 8,959 Major grins
    edited January 27, 2011
    really hard to tell...I do not hold bad english against anyone....
    my own english typing is terrible and sometimes I have had to delete a whole post and
    redo after reading it on a forum and it actually sounded like someone from a 3rd world country......

    I would contact them about return / refund policy.....if there is absolutely no refunds then run fast..real fast....
    and only pay with CC or PAYPAL....at least with those 2 paymt types you can get your money back if it is pirated
    and you cannot register it with the software company....they also invite you to ask them questions.......

    Not all download companies are frauds.....just because they do not offer a hard copy with a purchase......I have used a company that is in Russia for e-books / manuals over 10yrs ago and then bought a piece of software from them...it registered and work fantastically and I forgot to upgrade it for a few years.....went back to the software company to buy an upgrade to the most current version and all went smoothly, no probs.....the original purchase saved me $300...but I make sure I can get a refund if the software is not registrable with proper key codes and such......

    Basically just use your buyer beware spidey sense and email them all sorts of questions.........some software comes with registration key codes and also authentication codes....make sure all is available..
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  • pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,708 moderator
    edited January 27, 2011
    Apples official download website is here - http://support.apple.com/downloads/

    I would never purchase from an http link, only https
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  • Art ScottArt Scott Registered Users Posts: 8,959 Major grins
    edited January 27, 2011
    pathfinder wrote: »
    Apples official download website is here - http://support.apple.com/downloads/

    I would never purchase from an http link, only https


    I agree but......A lot of http sites change to https once the purchase is actually started, as when they ask for CC number
    "Genuine Fractals was, is and will always be the best solution for enlarging digital photos." ....Vincent Versace ... ... COPYRIGHT YOUR WORK ONLINE ... ... My Website

  • NeilLNeilL Registered Users Posts: 4,201 Major grins
    edited January 27, 2011
    Thanks Art, Pathfinder!

    I am in communication with them. Will pop the question about whether the SW is registrable.

    Neil
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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited January 27, 2011
    Guys. It's a SCAM. C'mon, if it's too good to be true, etc etc.

    Stay away.
    Andy

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  • NeilLNeilL Registered Users Posts: 4,201 Major grins
    edited January 27, 2011
    Andy wrote: »
    Guys. It's a SCAM. C'mon, if it's too good to be true, etc etc.

    Stay away.

    Yep, that's the principle I'm working on! In the meanwhile...eek7.gif

    Neil
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  • NeilLNeilL Registered Users Posts: 4,201 Major grins
    edited January 27, 2011
    They say you receive serial number and can activate. No PayPal.

    Quote:

    Follow-Up: 152120

    Good Day,

    You have to realize, that online registration is not supported by OEM versions,
    but there is no limitation with software at all.
    You'll receive serial number and activation instructions. You can update your software from Adobe after activation without problems.

    Thank you for your interest in the Software Store. I hope this information has been helpful.
    Software Store Customer Support

    Here are my working hours: everyday (except Friday) from 11 PM to 7 AM (GMT)
    Any feedback you provide would be greatly appreciated.
    Respectfully, Scott


    Neil
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  • ziggy53ziggy53 Super Moderators Posts: 24,156 moderator
    edited January 27, 2011
    Andy told the truth, this is a scam. Stay away from it.
    ziggy53
    Moderator of the Cameras and Accessories forums
  • RichardRichard Administrators, Vanilla Admin Posts: 19,967 moderator
    edited January 28, 2011
    Hey Neil,

    Wanna buy a bridge?

    45125586_Nbxix-S-2.jpg

    rolleyes1.gifrofl

    Seriously, just do a Google search on "apple-downloads.com" and you'll find all the reasons to avoid this site.
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  • NeilLNeilL Registered Users Posts: 4,201 Major grins
    edited January 28, 2011
    Richard wrote: »
    Hey Neil,

    Wanna buy a bridge?

    45125586_Nbxix-S-2.jpg

    rolleyes1.gifrofl

    Seriously, just do a Google search on "apple-downloads.com" and you'll find all the reasons to avoid this site.


    Kind of you, R... but actually, I was looking for a blue one!mwink.gif

    Neil
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  • NeilLNeilL Registered Users Posts: 4,201 Major grins
    edited January 28, 2011
    ziggy53 wrote: »
    Andy told the truth, this is a scam. Stay away from it.

    Yeah!:cry

    And I want so much to believe I can buy PS CS5 for a hundred bucks!:D

    Neil
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  • sara505sara505 Registered Users Posts: 1,684 Major grins
    edited January 28, 2011
    I got an e-mail yesterday purporting to be from Apple, offering CS5 for $349. The return address is Apple [News-tigjuukhkeeloe@hotmail.com].

    Yeah, right.
    Sara

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  • aj986saj986s Registered Users Posts: 1,100 Major grins
    edited January 28, 2011
    NeilL wrote: »
    Kind of you, R... but actually, I was looking for a blue one!mwink.gif

    Neil

    Then perhaps we can talk.......mwink.gif
    BayBridge-Blue.jpg
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  • RichardRichard Administrators, Vanilla Admin Posts: 19,967 moderator
    edited January 28, 2011
    aj986s wrote: »
    Then perhaps we can talk.......mwink.gif
    Damn...you beat me to it. rolleyes1.gif
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  • arodneyarodney Registered Users Posts: 2,005 Major grins
    edited January 28, 2011
    Andy wrote: »
    Guys. It's a SCAM. C'mon, if it's too good to be true, etc etc.
    Stay away.

    Absolutely a scam! Apple sells Photoshop CS5 upgrade for $199. If it seems too good to be true...
    Andrew Rodney
    Author "Color Management for Photographers"
    http://www.digitaldog.net/
  • SamSam Registered Users Posts: 7,419 Major grins
    edited January 28, 2011
    Oh boy, just try tracking these guys down.........:boid

    Sam


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  • aj986saj986s Registered Users Posts: 1,100 Major grins
    edited January 28, 2011
    Blue bridge is still for sale. rolleyes1.gif
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  • pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,708 moderator
    edited January 28, 2011
    Darn, Sam - you really know your stuff, and prove it.

    I am impressed, dude! WTG!
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  • angevin1angevin1 Registered Users Posts: 3,403 Major grins
    edited January 28, 2011
    NeilL wrote: »
    http://apple-downloads.com/

    It's slick and elaborately set up, but the English betrays a non-native user, and the purchase page is http:// not https:// despite claims that it is secure.

    It's one of those too-good-to-be-true offers, but too-good-to-ignore!:D

    Any ideas?

    Neil


    Adobe's official ( World-Wide) retailers: Here

    I don't see that store listed.
    tom wise
  • SamSam Registered Users Posts: 7,419 Major grins
    edited January 28, 2011
    pathfinder wrote: »
    Darn, Sam - you really know your stuff, and prove it.

    I am impressed, dude! WTG!

    Jim,

    Good lord.....don't spread it around! I have a rep to keep up.

    Sam
    www.samlinvillephotography.com
  • MarkRMarkR Registered Users Posts: 2,099 Major grins
    edited January 28, 2011
    aj986s wrote: »
    Blue bridge is still for sale. rolleyes1.gif

    Hey, that's not a blue bridge! It's a red bridge that someone painted blue! I smell a scam! :D
  • RichardRichard Administrators, Vanilla Admin Posts: 19,967 moderator
    edited January 28, 2011
    MarkR wrote: »
    Hey, that's not a blue bridge! It's a red bridge that someone painted blue! I smell a scam! :D

    Buy with confidence:

    1170405071_izzrF-M.jpg

    mwink.gif
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  • NeilLNeilL Registered Users Posts: 4,201 Major grins
    edited January 28, 2011
    aj986s wrote: »
    Then perhaps we can talk.......mwink.gif
    BayBridge-Blue.jpg

    Did you use real Adobe software to do that??!!mwink.gif

    Neil
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  • NeilLNeilL Registered Users Posts: 4,201 Major grins
    edited January 28, 2011
    Sam wrote: »
    Oh boy, just try tracking these guys down.........:boid

    Sam

    ...And the verdict is... GUILTY!

    Sam the Super Sleuth, this is mighty!thumb.gifthumbthumb.gif

    Neil
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  • NeilLNeilL Registered Users Posts: 4,201 Major grins
    edited January 28, 2011
    angevin1 wrote: »
    Adobe's official ( World-Wide) retailers: Here

    I don't see that store listed.

    No surprise, is it, Tom!!

    Neil
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  • NeilLNeilL Registered Users Posts: 4,201 Major grins
    edited January 28, 2011
    Richard wrote: »
    Buy with confidence:

    1170405071_izzrF-M.jpg

    mwink.gif

    I dunno... I see a bit of grey in placesheadscratch.gif... could be a grey market Chinese knock off. Ya gotta be careful buying stuff on the internet!

    neil
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  • kdogkdog Administrators Posts: 11,681 moderator
    edited January 28, 2011
    That's way too expensive. This guy's got a running ad for CS5 Creative Suite Master Collection for $50 here: mwink.gifhttp://lasvegas.craigslist.org/pho/2184074613.html
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  • NeilLNeilL Registered Users Posts: 4,201 Major grins
    edited January 28, 2011
    kdog wrote: »
    That's way too expensive. This guy's got a running ad for CS5 Creative Suite Master Collection for $50 here: mwink.gifhttp://lasvegas.craigslist.org/pho/2184074613.html

    rolleyes1.gif

    Neil
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