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Sigma 70-300 F/4.0-F/5.6 DG Macro [First impression / Images] ***Heavy Post***

elfving73elfving73 Registered Users Posts: 941 Major grins
edited April 5, 2008 in Holy Macro
Howdy guys!

Got my Sigma 70-300 f4.0-f5.6 DG Macro a couple of days ago. Just wanted to share my first impression. First I was happily surprised by the "quality feel" of it, very sturdy and well built. (Quite the opposite to the rumours I've heard about it - perhaps I'm mixing it up with the previous version?). It didn't take long to realize that this lens isn't suitable for indoor photography unless you have PLEEENTY of light and/or use a tripod. For outdoor photography, in bright condition, or in slight overcast, is does pretty well, but to get fairly good overall sharpness at 300 mm, you need to stop down to atleast f8-f11 - and with that follows the need of ISO 400 to get proper shutter speeds. No big sacrifice if you ask me. But if the overcast goes from slight to gloomy, you need cram up the ISO to 800. The autofocus is slow, but not dead slow. I wouldn't use it for sport/action photography though. In high contrast situation, it does suffer from some purple fringing. But in relation to the price tag, the lens performs very well. It also has a switch for changeover to "macro" photography at focal lengths between 200mm and 300mm with a maximum close-up magnification from 1:2.9 to 1:2.

Here is a few samples. All images are shot handheld without any support. I've done some cropping, level and contrast tweak and some USM.

Regards / Matty
[Candids]

300 mm, 1/400s, f/5.6, ISO 800 (slightly cropped)

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190 mm, 1/400s, f/5.0, ISO 800 (Slightly cropped)

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300 mm, 1/500s, f/5.6, ISO 400 (Slightly cropped)

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300 mm, 1/200s, f8.0, ISO 400 (Slightly cropped)

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300 mm, 1/160s, f/5.6, ISO 400 (Slightly cropped)

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300 mm, 1/200s, f/8.0, ISO 400 (Slightly cropped)

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300 mm, 1/320s, f/14, ISO 400 (Slightly cropped)

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300 mm, 1/60s, f5.6, ISO 1600, (Slightly cropped) [Indoor through a window]

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[Some "Macros"]

300 mm, 1/1000s, f/8.0, ISO 400 (Slightly cropped)

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300 mm, 1/160, f5.6, ISO 800 (Slightly cropped)

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300 mm, 1/320s, f/14, ISO 400 (Slightly cropped)

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300 mm, 1/200s, f/10, ISO 400 (Slightly cropped)

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300 mm, 1/60s, f/5.6, ISO 400, Fill Flash (Slightly cropped)

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    aurafloraauraflora Registered Users Posts: 471 Major grins
    edited September 20, 2005
    Hi Matty,


    Thanks for sharing these great photos with us. They are wonderful. You seem to have purchased a very versatile/quality lens.

    My favorites are: 2,5,6,8 and 12.

    Looking forward to seeing more photos from this lens.

    Michal
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    elfving73elfving73 Registered Users Posts: 941 Major grins
    edited September 20, 2005
    Thanx Michal!
    I was going for "cheap focal lenght" and I really didn't have high expectations - you can't really, for a lens that comes at
    192,48 USD (In USA 139.95 USD) but so far, I'm very happy with it.

    Matty
    auraflora wrote:
    Hi Matty,


    Thanks for sharing these great photos with us. They are wonderful. You seem to have purchased a very versatile/quality lens.

    My favorites are: 2,5,6,8 and 12.

    Looking forward to seeing more photos from this lens.

    Michal
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    Yuri PautovYuri Pautov Registered Users Posts: 1,918 Major grins
    edited September 21, 2005
    Mattias!
    Spasibo for your wonderful serial!
    Very impressive!
    Interesting to have a look at you with these lens takin photos.. (can you ask someone to shot you?)
    Yuri
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    ziggy53ziggy53 Super Moderators Posts: 23,899 moderator
    edited September 21, 2005
    Matty,


    I found something to like in each and every one of these images.

    Please share your post-processing technique.

    Excellent work.

    ziggy53
    ziggy53
    Moderator of the Cameras and Accessories forums
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    elfving73elfving73 Registered Users Posts: 941 Major grins
    edited September 21, 2005
    Thanx Yuri!
    Well! Sure! Life is tough and painfull time to time - but I've never reached the point where I would ask someone to shoot me! :D

    How do ya mean? Are you curious about my "style" when shooting? :): Or if I'm sneakin' around "in the bushes" with my cam? *Haha*

    Matty

    Mattias!
    Spasibo for your wonderful serial!
    Very impressive!
    Interesting to have a look at you with these lens takin photos.. (can you ask someone to shot you?)
    Yuri
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    elfving73elfving73 Registered Users Posts: 941 Major grins
    edited September 21, 2005
    Thanx Ziggy!
    Glad you liked them! Well, there is no big secrets to reveal in my workflow. I crop, resize, tweak levels and contrast if needed, add some Unsharp Mask (Usually 500/0,2/0). I also boost the colors a little (I have the in camera parameters of sharpness, saturation and contrast set to -2)

    Regards / Matty
    ziggy53 wrote:
    Matty,


    I found something to like in each and every one of these images.

    Please share your post-processing technique.

    Excellent work.

    ziggy53
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    rahmonsterrahmonster Registered Users Posts: 1,376 Major grins
    edited September 22, 2005
    I love all these shots Matty but #2...With the backlighting is a winner in my bookclap.gif
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    NappaloniaNappalonia Registered Users Posts: 96 Big grins
    edited September 28, 2005
    Nice work!

    This is the second post I found today with pics from the sigma 70-300, just when I was starting to second guess my purchase, I really need to get outheadscratch.gif
    http://nappalonia.smugmug.com/gallery/580776

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    20D :clap
    Canon
    18-55
    85 1.8 :wink
    Tamron
    28-75 2.8
    Sigma
    70-300 DG APO Macro
    30 1.4:thumb
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    G KG K Registered Users Posts: 87 Big grins
    edited September 29, 2005
    Matty
    I totally agree - I picked up one of these about 3 weeks ago and have been having fun with it ever since :). Nice shots! I thought I would share some of mine with the D70 and the Sigma.

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    ~gk
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    jbswearjbswear Registered Users Posts: 167 Major grins
    edited April 2, 2008
    I know that I'm TOTALLY resurrecting the dead by bringing up this post, but I've been jonesing for a macro lens for months now, and am ready to take the plunge.

    My wallet, though, isn't.

    I've had my XTi for about a year and half now, and have clocked just under 10k shots with it. My lenses are the kit lens, a nifty-50, and a 55-200 (all the basic, inexpensive Canon lenses).

    After shooting the blossoms in DC the other day, I've finally come to realize the short comings of each of these lenses for really close-in work.

    Did I mention that I love flowers? As in, aside from my daughter, if all I ever shot was flowers, I'd be happy?

    :D

    I've been able to find this particular lens for under $170 at various places and was wondering if the consensus is that it's a decent lens for a shutter-happy amateur that hasn't yet figured out how to make this addiction pay for itself.
    Semper fi,
    Brad
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    RichardRichard Administrators, Vanilla Admin Posts: 19,937 moderator
    edited April 2, 2008
    jbswear wrote:
    I know that I'm TOTALLY resurrecting the dead by bringing up this post, but I've been jonesing for a macro lens for months now, and am ready to take the plunge.

    My wallet, though, isn't.

    I've had my XTi for about a year and half now, and have clocked just under 10k shots with it. My lenses are the kit lens, a nifty-50, and a 55-200 (all the basic, inexpensive Canon lenses).

    After shooting the blossoms in DC the other day, I've finally come to realized the short comings of each of these lenses for really close-in work.

    Did I mention that I love flowers? As in, aside from my daughter, if all I ever shot was flowers, I'd be happy?

    :D

    I've been able to find this particular lens for under $170 at various places and was wondering if the consensus is that it's a decent lens for a shutter-happy amateur that hasn't yet figured out how to make this addiction pay for itself.

    Brad,

    One of the problems with very old posts is that the links are not always valid. But rather than delete this thread, I'm going to move it to the Macro forum, where I think you'll find the answers you're seeking.
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    jbswearjbswear Registered Users Posts: 167 Major grins
    edited April 2, 2008
    Richard wrote:
    Brad,

    One of the problems with very old posts is that the links are not always valid. But rather than delete this thread, I'm going to move it to the Macro forum, where I think you'll find the answers you're seeking.

    Thanks, friend.
    Semper fi,
    Brad
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    Lord VetinariLord Vetinari Registered Users Posts: 15,901 Major grins
    edited April 2, 2008
    jbswear wrote:
    Thanks, friend.
    I think for flowers I'd invest in a set of kenko ext tubes and use them with your nifty fifty. The macro quality of the 70-300 is not great and it's at the 300 end which makes it hard to handle.
    Brian V.
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    jbswearjbswear Registered Users Posts: 167 Major grins
    edited April 2, 2008
    I think for flowers I'd invest in a set of kenko ext tubes and use them with your nifty fifty. The macro quality of the 70-300 is not great and it's at the 300 end which makes it hard to handle.
    Brian V.

    I realy know nothing about extension tubes. I'll search around the forum to see what I can find on them.

    I'm assuming they wouldn't do much good for insects and the like?
    Semper fi,
    Brad
    www.facebook.com/SwearingenTurnings -- Hand made pens by yours truly
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    jbswearjbswear Registered Users Posts: 167 Major grins
    edited April 2, 2008
    Just did a search on extension tubes and I think that I'd be better off getting an actual macro lens. I love flowers, but would love to shoot the insects that are often found with them in gardens.
    Semper fi,
    Brad
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    Lord VetinariLord Vetinari Registered Users Posts: 15,901 Major grins
    edited April 2, 2008
    jbswear wrote:
    Just did a search on extension tubes and I think that I'd be better off getting an actual macro lens. I love flowers, but would love to shoot the insects that are often found with them in gardens.

    Don't underestimate extension tube set- with a 50mm lens you will get greater than the 1:1 max magnification of a macro lens.
    The following shots were all taken with an old pentax 50mm lens on about 75mm of ext tubes I cobbled onto my canon body

    Brian V.

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    jbswearjbswear Registered Users Posts: 167 Major grins
    edited April 2, 2008
    Holy cow. Those are awesome.

    How far away from your subjects were you? I'm just worried that by relying on extension tubes, I may spook skitish insects.
    Semper fi,
    Brad
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    Lord VetinariLord Vetinari Registered Users Posts: 15,901 Major grins
    edited April 3, 2008
    jbswear wrote:
    Holy cow. Those are awesome.

    How far away from your subjects were you? I'm just worried that by relying on extension tubes, I may spook skitish insects.

    The focus point is close- about 2" in front of the lens. A proper macro prime lens around 100mm would be easier to use for insects but you will get far better shots with a 50mm + tubes than you will with the 70-300. The ext tubes can also be used with the macro lens. Just suggested it as a fairly cheap way of getting good macro shots.

    Brian V.
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    jbswearjbswear Registered Users Posts: 167 Major grins
    edited April 3, 2008
    I think I'll take your advice and start off with the extension tubes with my 50mm and get an actual macro later on.

    Thanks for the advice, I really appreciate it.

    Now I want shots like yours!

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    What happens if you use these with a dedicated macro lens?
    Semper fi,
    Brad
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    Lord VetinariLord Vetinari Registered Users Posts: 15,901 Major grins
    edited April 3, 2008
    jbswear wrote:
    I think I'll take your advice and start off with the extension tubes with my 50mm and get an actual macro later on.

    Thanks for the advice, I really appreciate it.

    Now I want shots like yours!

    bowdown.gif


    What happens if you use these with a dedicated macro lens?

    If you use a set of extension tubes with a 1:1 macro lens around 100mm focal length it will give it a max magnification of 2:1.

    Brian V.
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    RobinivichRobinivich Registered Users Posts: 438 Major grins
    edited April 3, 2008
    I'll second Lord V's remarks about the tubes, it does take some doing to get the 50mm that close, but most of the subjects for it are so small they let you get pretty close anyways. Almost all of my bugs gallery is from this combo, whereas most of my macro's that AREN'T in there are from my 70-300 APO DG Macro which is just a little too soft for the results I hope for, 1:2 magnification being the other reason.

    To be perfectly honest, the 50mm with tubes comes very close to the quality of my brand spanking new 150mm macro :D

    My suggestion after these tubes might be to have a look at a flash if you're addicted, simply because unless the working distance of the 50 drives you crazy the quality leaves little or nothing to be desired.
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    ZayetsZayets Registered Users Posts: 16 Big grins
    edited April 4, 2008
    Don't underestimate extension tube set- with a 50mm lens you will get greater than the 1:1 max magnification of a macro lens.
    The following shots were all taken with an old pentax 50mm lens on about 75mm of ext tubes I cobbled onto my canon body

    Brian V.
    Thank you Brian. bowdown.gif your replies answered everything I needed to know about the Sigma. I am another proud user of the extension tubes. :D
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    Lord VetinariLord Vetinari Registered Users Posts: 15,901 Major grins
    edited April 5, 2008
    Interestingly you get macro shots with the sigma if you use a set of ext tubes and set the lens to 70mm - also much easier to use.
    Brian V.
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