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Living off the Grid

swifteyeswifteye Registered Users Posts: 156 Major grins
edited April 27, 2011 in Street and Documentary
I am in the process of scanning a project I did in Kodachrome on a family that lives off the grid. Here is one of the images:

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    RichardRichard Administrators, Vanilla Admin Posts: 19,931 moderator
    edited February 16, 2011
    Terrific image Jamie. Wow! clap.gifclap.gifclap.gif
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    black mambablack mamba Registered Users Posts: 8,321 Major grins
    edited February 16, 2011
    Powerful image. The PP work is very well done. The bird wing is an element that just pounds at you.

    Tom
    I always wanted to lie naked on a bearskin rug in front of a fireplace. Cracker Barrel didn't take kindly to it.
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    lizzard_nyclizzard_nyc Registered Users Posts: 4,056 Major grins
    edited February 16, 2011
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    Wow man!
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    sara505sara505 Registered Users Posts: 1,684 Major grins
    edited February 16, 2011
    swifteye wrote: »
    I am in the process of scanning a project I did in Kodachrome on a family that lives off the grid. Here is one of the images:

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    Excellent image, on many levels. The bird wing, the texture and grain of the wood, the blurry faces all join forces, creating a very compelling, mysterious, and artistic photo.
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    bdcolenbdcolen Registered Users Posts: 3,804 Major grins
    edited February 16, 2011
    swifteye wrote: »

    Fascinating image. I can't wait to see more.
    bd@bdcolenphoto.com
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    "The more ambiguous the photograph is, the better it is..." Leonard Freed
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    FlyingginaFlyinggina Registered Users Posts: 2,639 Major grins
    edited February 16, 2011
    Very intriguing. I'm looking forward very much to seeing more of your photos this project.

    Virginia
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    thoththoth Registered Users Posts: 1,085 Major grins
    edited February 16, 2011
    Can't help but to agree with the posters above. This shot is fantastic. thumb.gif
    Travis
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    swifteyeswifteye Registered Users Posts: 156 Major grins
    edited February 17, 2011
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    indiegirlindiegirl Registered Users Posts: 930 Major grins
    edited February 17, 2011
    Fanfreakingtastic.
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    chrisjohnsonchrisjohnson Registered Users Posts: 771 Major grins
    edited February 18, 2011
    Very wierd. Very sad. Pity the poor children.
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    swifteyeswifteye Registered Users Posts: 156 Major grins
    edited February 18, 2011
    Very wierd. Very sad. Pity the poor children.

    I am curious: how do you arrive at your interpretation of this image as very weird, very sad, and the children are poor?
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    sara505sara505 Registered Users Posts: 1,684 Major grins
    edited February 18, 2011
    swifteye wrote: »
    I am curious: how do you arrive at your interpretation of this image as very weird, very sad, and the children are poor?

    I was wondering the same thing - sounds like a ton of projections and assumptions.

    But then again, the way art strikes a person is the way it strikes a person and is all valid.
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    swifteyeswifteye Registered Users Posts: 156 Major grins
    edited February 18, 2011
    sara505 wrote: »
    I was wondering the same thing - sounds like a ton of projections and assumptions.

    But then again, the way art strikes a person is the way it strikes a person and is all valid.

    Do you know the story The Point by musician Harry Nilsson about a boy named Oblio, the only round-headed person in the Pointed Village, where by law everyone and everything had to have a point. He and his dog were banished to The Pointless Forrest. Here is a Wikipedia link to give you an overview of the story: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Point!.

    Now, my favorite quote from this story is when Obloi and Arrow (Oblio's dog) run into the Rock Man and he asks them a series of questions about seeing and hearing things, of which the wayward travelers respond "no" to the questions.
    The Rockman then responds, "dig man, you see what you want to see and you hear what you want to hear!"

    Here is a link to that part of the story:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2a-_dvxtN0

    Enjoy!
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    sara505sara505 Registered Users Posts: 1,684 Major grins
    edited February 18, 2011
    So, what's your point? :D
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    swifteyeswifteye Registered Users Posts: 156 Major grins
    edited February 18, 2011
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    JuanoJuano Registered Users Posts: 4,882 Major grins
    edited February 18, 2011
    Great image, it really conveys the "off the grid" feeling. The children have a look in their faces that may be seen as sadness or perhaps isolation (or both?). It's true that it is in the eye of the beholder, but that's the feeling I get from the image.
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    swifteyeswifteye Registered Users Posts: 156 Major grins
    edited February 18, 2011
    Juano wrote: »
    Great image, it really conveys the "off the grid" feeling. The children have a look in their faces that may be seen as sadness or perhaps isolation (or both?). It's true that it is in the eye of the beholder, but that's the feeling I get from the image.

    Fair enough. I will try to put together a series here (in the original color: BD) to better convey the story within the next few days.
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    r3t1awr3ydr3t1awr3yd Registered Users Posts: 1,000 Major grins
    edited February 18, 2011
    I get a completely different feel... the "being off the grid" doesn't even phase what I see.

    I see two ghosts. I'm assuming it's the reflection of the background shadowing the window that's causing me to see it this way but an ominous piece of a bird hanging outside the door doesn't help.

    This picture is SUPER CREEPY to me. (oh, i hate horror movies and ghost related things).

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    jdryan3jdryan3 Registered Users Posts: 1,353 Major grins
    edited February 18, 2011
    Interesting shot and I hope to see the series soon. Hopefully the one poster's comment was from a misperception about living off the grid rather than the shot itself.



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    "Don't ask me what I think of you, I might not give the answer that you want me to. Oh well."
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    chrisjohnsonchrisjohnson Registered Users Posts: 771 Major grins
    edited February 18, 2011
    swifteye wrote: »
    I am curious: how do you arrive at your interpretation of this image as very weird, very sad, and the children are poor?

    Now you are making me think :)

    The "poor children" is a colloquialism meaning worthy of pity, having a too low quality of life. I did not think immediately about poor meaning having too little money.

    Why do I pity them? I guess because they are are dwarved by the surrounding objects, they look more like little adults than little children, old before their time like the weathered wood, tucked away at the bottom of the frame. The bird parts nailed to the wall evoke a casual brutality and dominate the shot; how do you imagine the children feel?

    I don't know what story you are intending to tell about living off the grid. I suppose the monochrome is used for a purpose; a bleak message.

    Anyway, I explained a bit what I feel about your photo which I find moving and not simply "because I see whatever I want to see" but because I see what you put there.
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    swifteyeswifteye Registered Users Posts: 156 Major grins
    edited February 18, 2011
    Now you are making me think :)

    The "poor children" is a colloquialism meaning worthy of pity, having a too low quality of life. I did not think immediately about poor meaning having too little money.

    Why do I pity them? I guess because they are are dwarved by the surrounding objects, they look more like little adults than little children, old before their time like the weathered wood, tucked away at the bottom of the frame. The bird parts nailed to the wall evoke a casual brutality and dominate the shot; how do you imagine the children feel?

    I don't know what story you are intending to tell about living off the grid. I suppose the monochrome is used for a purpose; a bleak message.

    Anyway, I explained a bit what I feel about your photo which I find moving and not simply "because I see whatever I want to see" but because I see what you put there.

    A very excellent and intelligent response. Excuse me for my humor (it was fun!).

    This dialog brings up an important topic: that of the photographers "experience" of being a witness of the environment he/she is making images of versus the viewers own interpretation of the image (with out the "experience"). I am fascinated by the viewer response and that is why I only show the images at first and sit back and listen. I am more interested in what the emotional/psychological impact a image has versus just a technical discussion of its rendering (although that is also appropriate and useful). When I now look at my image with your interpretation in mind it expands the visual conversation. The conversation becomes more than just my experience. It becomes your experience. ....And that is the wonderful reward of being a photographer.

    I total "get" your interpretation now goldenballs. It is from asking the question that we forward the dialog. I will not reveal my experience just yet (I have a lot of scanning to do, along with the pp).

    Bdcolen: Here is the color version of this image you requested. I wonder how the color changes peoples perception and interpretation?

    Sorry in advance if you do not see more images from this series right away- busy week!!
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    sara505sara505 Registered Users Posts: 1,684 Major grins
    edited February 18, 2011
    swifteye wrote: »
    A very excellent and intelligent response. Excuse me for my humor (it was fun!).

    This dialog brings up an important topic: that of the photographers "experience" of being a witness of the environment he/she is making images of versus the viewers own interpretation of the image (with out the "experience"). I am fascinated by the viewer response and that is why I only show the images at first and sit back and listen. I am more interested in what the emotional/psychological impact a image has versus just a technical discussion of its rendering (although that is also appropriate and useful). When I now look at my image with your interpretation in mind it expands the visual conversation. The conversation becomes more than just my experience. It becomes your experience. ....And that is the wonderful reward of being a photographer.

    I total "get" your interpretation now goldenballs. It is from asking the question that we forward the dialog. I will not reveal my experience just yet (I have a lot of scanning to do, along with the pp).

    Bdcolen: Here is the color version of this image you requested. I wonder how the color changes peoples perception and interpretation?

    Sorry in advance if you do not see more images from this series right away- busy week!!
    Just as good in color!
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    chrisjohnsonchrisjohnson Registered Users Posts: 771 Major grins
    edited February 19, 2011
    sara505 wrote: »
    Just as good in color!

    The color changes the way I feel about the picture, as I thought it would. "Endangered Species" is now a fitting title.

    I prefer the b&w - the color links the feathers and the wood frame in a way that suggests an important connection that I don't see right now.

    The fallacy with all art is believing that the creator's intention is of determining importance to understanding how it speaks. The great images reveal connections that the artist was not necessarily aware of at the time. Still, I would like to hear your description of what you are doing or do you prefer to let the image do the talking?
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    black mambablack mamba Registered Users Posts: 8,321 Major grins
    edited February 20, 2011
    Terrific shot, Jamie. I spend a lot of time traveling the back roads deep in the Appalachian mountains and scenes like this ( usually minus the human element ) are very common to me. But then, of course, it's the human element here that gives this shot the grit it possesses. Well done.

    Tom
    I always wanted to lie naked on a bearskin rug in front of a fireplace. Cracker Barrel didn't take kindly to it.
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    bdcolenbdcolen Registered Users Posts: 3,804 Major grins
    edited February 20, 2011
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    Thanks for posting in color. I have to say I am really torn with both these images, in terms of color or black and white.
    bd@bdcolenphoto.com
    "He not busy being born is busy dying." Bob Dylan

    "The more ambiguous the photograph is, the better it is..." Leonard Freed
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    NyarthlopicNyarthlopic Registered Users Posts: 274 Major grins
    edited February 20, 2011
    These are really cool shots. I like the B&W over the color, but that's not taking anything away from the color one. Both versions are brilliant. Though the way I see it is closer to r3t1awr3yd. Unlike him, though, I love the whole creepy ghost vibe.

    The second image is very cool, too. It doesn't have the same ghost thing going on, but I still get the creepy vibe. I do find myself wondering what the person is looking at. Watching her children play? Watching the world go by without her? Plotting humanity's demise? Lots going on.

    Put simply: these. are. awesome.
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    FlyingginaFlyinggina Registered Users Posts: 2,639 Major grins
    edited February 20, 2011
    I am coming down on the side of color. The second shot is just wonderful in color. It's probably great in b&w too, but I do love the feel of the color.

    That said, I think the color gives a more dreamy effect to both photos (enhanced by the reflections and the cool color palette) and is perhaps less gritty than the black and white.

    Whether this will make a difference to the series remains to be seen.

    At this point, I think either works wonderfully. Artist's choice.

    Virginia
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    sara505sara505 Registered Users Posts: 1,684 Major grins
    edited February 20, 2011
    There's only one way to capture that orange cat, and that's in color.

    Great shots - both.
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    bdcolenbdcolen Registered Users Posts: 3,804 Major grins
    edited February 20, 2011
    sara505 wrote: »
    There's only one way to capture that orange cat, and that's in color.

    Great shots - both.

    Definitely both great shots - but countless orange cats were photographed in black and white before there was color. And, just for argument's sake I have to ask if the orange cat is the subject - because that orange DO stick out. rolleyes1.gif
    bd@bdcolenphoto.com
    "He not busy being born is busy dying." Bob Dylan

    "The more ambiguous the photograph is, the better it is..." Leonard Freed
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