Are photo comments being censored?

insanefredinsanefred Registered Users Posts: 604 Major grins
edited March 16, 2011 in SmugMug Support
I noticed this http://www.evisionphotos.com/Airsoft/Ash-Bash-IV/16202583_kBv7L#1217066717_tEsTZ

Is it being automatically censored? If so, how can I turn this off, I am highly against this kind of censorship.

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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited March 15, 2011
    insanefred wrote: »
    I noticed this http://www.evisionphotos.com/Airsoft/Ash-Bash-IV/16202583_kBv7L#1217066717_tEsTZ

    Is it being automatically censored? If so, how can I turn this off, I am highly against this kind of censorship.

    Yes, we do not allow foul language in photo comments, I'm sorry.
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  • insanefredinsanefred Registered Users Posts: 604 Major grins
    edited March 15, 2011
    Andy wrote: »
    Yes, we do not allow foul language in photo comments, I'm sorry.


    Why? It's not like you're my mommy or daddy. And I can still delete them if they're really offending.
  • PBolchoverPBolchover Registered Users Posts: 909 Major grins
    edited March 16, 2011
    Who ever would have thought that "s---" would be strong enough a language to evoke censorship...

    (mod edited)
  • carolinecaroline Registered Users Posts: 1,302 Major grins
    edited March 16, 2011
    insanefred wrote: »
    Why? It's not like you're my mommy or daddy. And I can still delete them if they're really offending.

    It reflects on SmugMug as host in a negative way, glad to see it
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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited March 16, 2011
    Insanefred, you may repost again without the foul language please.
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  • insanefredinsanefred Registered Users Posts: 604 Major grins
    edited March 16, 2011
    caroline wrote: »
    It reflects on SmugMug as host in a negative way, glad to see it

    I don't buy that.
    Is Smugmug the ones cussing in the comments? No, am I? No, do I associate the comments with Smugmug? Of course not!
    Am I a big boy that can judge for myself if something is offending and wrong and moderate the comments myself? Yes.
    Is it illegal to say words like, "***", "***", "**** "***"? NO!
    If it's seriously offended then you don't have to read them do you.

    Before you know it other legitimate words like, "cracker" , "Jesus", "butt" will be censored too.
    I have photos with people that have patches on their uniforms with words like, "***" , "***" , "Jew".. Should I be afraid that these photos will be taken down now?

    I know, someone is going to say something like, " Well, if you don't like, then leave."

    These words are part of our English language, they have completely legitimate definitions, and they are NOT only subjected to derogatory meanings.
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited March 16, 2011
    insanefred wrote: »
    I don't buy that.
    Is Smugmug the ones cussing in the comments? No, am I? No, do I associate the comments with Smugmug? Of course not!
    Am I a big boy that can judge for myself if something is offending and wrong and moderate the comments myself? Yes.
    Is it illegal to say words like, "***", "***", "**** "***"? NO!
    If it's seriously offended then you don't have to read them do you.

    Before you know it other legitimate words like, "cracker" , "Jesus", "butt" will be censored too.
    I have photos with people that have patches on their uniforms with words like, "***" , "***" , "Jew".. Should I be afraid that these photos will be taken down now?

    I know, someone is going to say something like, " Well, if you don't like, then leave."

    We don't allow those words, not on SmugMug or on Dgrin. I'm sorry.
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  • WinsomeWorksWinsomeWorks Registered Users Posts: 1,935 Major grins
    edited March 16, 2011
    Thanks to SmugMug for having some decency standards
    I've gotta say, I'm very glad that SmugMug cares about this & keeps the trash-talk to a real minimum in this way. I completely agree with Andy that it simply doesn't reflect well on the site if viewers are faced with a bunch of disgusting language, no matter who put it there-- commenters, site owners, or DGrin post-ers. There are plenty of alternative ways to express stuff, and there are also plenty of alternative places (online of course as well) to spew whatever language one wants. It's no secret that certain sites are considered extremely trashy, and it's generally because of the language. This is a site that plenty of youngsters look at too, & sure, you can't constantly protect them from every bit of foul-ness, but you can at least put your best foot forward.

    So I applaud this site for upholding a certain standard of excellence in all areas including this one. I like seeing stuff on YouTube, but the comments on there become extraordinarily vulgar in a short amount of time, after which any kind of mature discourse becomes impossible... yet there are millions of kids looking at it. It appalls me that very little gets censored on there. Even my 17-yr. old son was complaining just yesterday how ugly it gets, and what that does to its reputation. A family-owned site like this has every reason and every right to uphold standards, just like all kinds of other public places and forums do. It's a myth that anyone has the right to say absolutely anything they want anywhere, and thank goodness it's a myth. It's not like we're on a very short leash here, & it shouldn't really be that hard to just save the trash-talk for a more appropriate place. Just because something's not absolutely illegal doesn't mean it's allowed everywhere. Even TV & radio have a few standards left too, ya know?
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  • PBolchoverPBolchover Registered Users Posts: 909 Major grins
    edited March 16, 2011
    In my opinion, you are trying to impose moral values on certain words based on your own particular society, on a global photography site.

    This is very problematic, because "bad" words in one area can be completely normal in other areas. For example, I would regard the 4-letter "excrement" word as being relatively low-level in the UK. However, you obviously regard it so problematic that it requires censoring.
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited March 16, 2011
    PBolchover wrote: »
    In my opinion, you are trying to impose moral values on certain words based on your own particular society, on a global photography site.

    This is very problematic, because "bad" words in one area can be completely normal in other areas. For example, I would regard the 4-letter "excrement" word as being relatively low-level in the UK. However, you obviously regard it so problematic that it requires censoring.
    There are plenty of places on the internet where you can use that word, and others, freely. Just not on Dgrin.
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  • jfriendjfriend Registered Users Posts: 8,097 Major grins
    edited March 16, 2011
    WinsomeWorks wrote: »
    I've gotta say, I'm very glad that SmugMug cares about this & keeps the trash-talk to a real minimum in this way...
    Same here. I like that Smugmug is a safe place for anyone in my family at any age to browse. And parents don't have to worry about what the kids might stumble across. As Andy says, there are zillions of other places on the internet where anything goes - just not these two places.
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